Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

I love your long posts. As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 6:11, "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" https://biblehub.com/niv/ecclesiastes/6-11.htm.

the bible is longer than my posts

The Bible makes sense when you read the various parts in context. Your posts don't make sense any which way.

your post is longer than mine

[franky1]

5G is not heating the air in peoples lungs
ACTUAL DOCTORS doing MANY scans, tests, observations know its not the oxygen. its the lack of oxygen due to lungs filling with fluid, due to the immuno response to a foreign invader, which they test and find out it is a virus

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a few silly people think that the tests that hospitals are using is a sort of pregnancy test strip .. sorry its not
its actually a lab test using specifically modified settings and specially formulated chemicals to test it.
along with CT scans and other tests and symptom observations.. all come to the conclusion of a diagnoses

5G is not wide spread international. yet there are people widespread contracting corona virus and having their body negatively respond to the virus.

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as for the concerns of 2.4ghz radiowaves. they are not the same kind of waves as a kitchen microwave. if you did not know this. you should research its the infrared part of a kitchen microwave that does the cooking

but as always certain conspiracy trolls wont actually do the research

.. any lets reign this meander back to the topic of corona. not other unrelated nonsense like 5G that has no correlation to corona

[TECSHARE]

^ This 5G discussion belongs more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148057.msg51245999#msg51245999
It is off topic in this thread.
Please take it there thanks.

[franky1]

from what i have gathered by actually doing research of UK handling of corona
each other country may differ, but generally hospital visits are not advised unless your breathing is laboured/strained enough to cause issues doing things like sleep, walk around house

when you have a mild symptom of cough/fever, your told to self isolate under what is known as 'shielding' category
this is to not even go out for exercise or food, and get support from friends/relatives or local council support for your needs in your home

if you get breathing difficulty its advised to go to hospital for any extra oxygen support.
on admission your symptoms are assessed, and you are given an xray and other scans as standard protocol. samples are taken and sent to a lab that will confirm its covid19 and not any of the other strains/flus.
this is again standard protocol now. they especially do this to make sure its not a further new mutation that might pop up in the future so they wnt to catch it early. and also rule out if its the older seasonal flu..
once they know its covid19 specifically. they then have a protocol specific to that

in short. categories are
no symptoms: self isolate - socially distance: allowed to go out for essentials/exercise but dont abuse the freedom stay safe stay at distance

mild symptom: self isolating - shielding: stay home, no shopping, no exercise. stay home and rest

no symptom living with someone mild symptomed: personally do 'no symptom' but also socially distance from person within the house who has it as much as possible. stay in different rooms. leave food at the door and keep distance. clean house methodically

severe symptoms: breathing issue call NHS to ask for advice, expect hospital visit for oxygen support and full tests/diagnoses

critical symptoms: prepare to be sedated and intubated


the UK only had 8000 beds that can support the critical category. which in this situation would not be enough if everyone got it in one go/over a couple months. self isolation/social distancing/shielding is not to cure it or make people immune. its to stop the spread to slow down how many people could need the hospital in one go.
allowing time for the NHS to stock up, train up, prepare.

self isolation is not the end of this.
less than 10% of people mingled and flouted the guidelines. .. imagine if there was no self isolation/guidelines where everyone got it.

stats are showing that if you get to the critical stage of needing to be intubated the risk/recovery rate is far worse with covid than other reasons to be intubated.

[TECSHARE]

After seeing things unfold a bit more, and seeing the increasingly totalitarian steps enforced by state mandate, I am starting to get a very clear picture that this event is being used to strip people of their freedoms. They are training us all to be disgusted with and fear one another. They are training us to report our neighbors if we leave our homes like we live in East Germany. They are training us to be told when we can leave your homes, where we can go, and what we can do when you get there. They are training you to accept being told where you can shop, what you can buy, and who can work. They are training us to accept universal basic income with the emergency payouts. They are even training us to accept the 5G control grid by using the bandwidth demand as an excuse to throttle connections to make us beg for 5G bandwidth.

I was supportive of this lock down at first because it was voluntary and optional. Now it is rapidly becoming totalitarian and based on force. We can't tolerate this being sustained much longer or else those freedoms will go away and will never be returned without a high price paid in blood. This event is being used to cripple the American economy (and others) and train us to be in a wartime mindset, and wartime is exactly what we are going to get if we don't start resisting these unconstitutional restrictions.

[franky1]

governments didnt want totalitarian.. it was them that kept it voluntary

but stupid people who even more stupidly wanted to promote that there is no virus. are the stupid ones that try 'social dissodence' and actualy do stupid things like poke at the limit, cross the line and just provoke things.

if people actually just went out and done their shopping and actually had some casual exercise.. basic freedoms of life.. instead of walking up to a police officer spitting in their face and shouting i hope i gave you corona.. then thengs would not need to be stepped up

its like gun control. if people just buy a sensible gun that can actually defend them in a situation like a burglary. and not buy an ASSAULT riffle that can rip through walls and hit neighbours in a random spray..
if these nutters didnt walk around the street handling their gun for no reason but to cause panic while recording it on youtube and shouting 'its my right'

if they actually acted sensible with a gun and responsible .. then gun controls wont be needed

stupidity and ignorance and trying to provoke trouble is what causes peoples freedoms to come with more and more restrictive responsibilities and limitations

so before trying to declare civil war on gvernment for asking you to not go to a bar right now.. realise its the provokation your are pushing for that will cause more restrictions.

so if you dont want more restrictions.. stick to doing just the basics and stop acting like an entitled idiot.

because allthough you may not care about your life or other peoples life.. your actions can affect others.

[TwitchySeal]

After seeing things unfold a bit more, and seeing the increasingly totalitarian steps enforced by state mandate, I am starting to get a very clear picture that this event is being used to strip people of their freedoms. They are training us all to be disgusted with and fear one another. They are training us to report our neighbors if we leave our homes like we live in East Germany. They are training us to be told when we can leave your homes, where we can go, and what we can do when you get there. They are training you to accept being told where you can shop, what you can buy, and who can work. They are training us to accept universal basic income with the emergency payouts. They are even training us to accept the 5G control grid by using the bandwidth demand as an excuse to throttle connections to make us beg for 5G bandwidth.

I was supportive of this lock down at first because it was voluntary and optional. Now it is rapidly becoming totalitarian and based on force. We can't tolerate this being sustained much longer or else those freedoms will go away and will never be returned without a high price paid in blood. This event is being used to cripple the American economy (and others) and train us to be in a wartime mindset, and wartime is exactly what we are going to get if we don't start resisting these unconstitutional restrictions.

Or maybe there's a global pandemic and they're trying to stop the spread of a virus.

[squatz1]

After seeing things unfold a bit more, and seeing the increasingly totalitarian steps enforced by state mandate, I am starting to get a very clear picture that this event is being used to strip people of their freedoms. They are training us all to be disgusted with and fear one another. They are training us to report our neighbors if we leave our homes like we live in East Germany. They are training us to be told when we can leave your homes, where we can go, and what we can do when you get there. They are training you to accept being told where you can shop, what you can buy, and who can work. They are training us to accept universal basic income with the emergency payouts. They are even training us to accept the 5G control grid by using the bandwidth demand as an excuse to throttle connections to make us beg for 5G bandwidth.

I was supportive of this lock down at first because it was voluntary and optional. Now it is rapidly becoming totalitarian and based on force. We can't tolerate this being sustained much longer or else those freedoms will go away and will never be returned without a high price paid in blood. This event is being used to cripple the American economy (and others) and train us to be in a wartime mindset, and wartime is exactly what we are going to get if we don't start resisting these unconstitutional restrictions.

Or maybe there's a global pandemic and they're trying to stop the spread of a virus.

Yeah maybe. LOL

But I do think that there is going to be a lot of things that government do to take power during this time that they wouldn't have had before. I know Rahm Emanuel -- Obama first Chief of Staff said "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." So the federal, state, and local governments aren't going to waste time here in abosbing powers that they didn't have before. Even the Presidency (the Executive branch as a whole) is going to absorb powers from the other branches because we're in a crisis.

This event wasn't created to take more power for government, but they sure as shit are going to use it to grow more powerful and to try to stop the spread of this virus.

I've seen reports that dictatorships across the world are becoming stronger and stronger in a time like this. s

[Tash]

Dr. Didier Raoult has now treated 1000 coronavirus patient with 99.3% success rate
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/06/french-researcher-dr-didier-raoult-has-now-treated-1000-coronavirus-patient-with-99-3-success-rate/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has treated  900 coronavirus patients and has phenomenon results
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

[franky1]

Dr. Didier Raoult has now treated 1000 coronavirus patient with 99.3% success rate
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/06/french-researcher-dr-didier-raoult-has-now-treated-1000-coronavirus-patient-with-99-3-success-rate/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has treated  900 coronavirus patients and has phenomenon results
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

just be cautious about these
for instance the 1000 patient study
shows
20 needed ICU support. and 7 died 35% death rate if you get breathing difficulty to need ICU support is not good odds
many countries dont usually even admit patients into a hospital at the mild stage. usually they have to be at the difficulty breathing stage.
so i just hope the study reveals their level at the start of the study, and they didnt just grab 980 people who were symptomless/mild.

would need to know the condition on entry of the 980

as for the other study of 900. this was definitely not a study of those in the above mild category. as they were all doing it from home. so obviously symptomless and mild.

the thing is with people symptomless/mild.. they end up stop taking meds when they feel good and not need them.
this has been shown in many many studies where peoples symptoms re emerge later when they give up on the meds early.

these studies really need to be looked at. because the side effects of the meds have consequences too

[BADecker]

Dr. Didier Raoult has now treated 1000 coronavirus patient with 99.3% success rate
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/06/french-researcher-dr-didier-raoult-has-now-treated-1000-coronavirus-patient-with-99-3-success-rate/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has treated  900 coronavirus patients and has phenomenon results
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

just be cautious about these
for instance the 1000 patient study
shows
20 needed ICU support. and 7 died 35% death rate if you get breathing difficulty to need ICU support is not good odds
many countries dont usually even admit patients into a hospital at the mild stage. usually they have to be at the difficulty breathing stage.
so i just hope the study reveals their level at the start of the study, and they didnt just grab 980 people who were symptomless/mild.

would need to know the condition on entry of the 980

as for the other study of 900. this was definitely not a study of those in the above mild category. as they were all doing it from home. so obviously symptomless and mild.

the thing is with people symptomless/mild.. they end up stop taking meds when they feel good and not need them.
this has been shown in many many studies where peoples symptoms re emerge later when they give up on the meds early.

these studies really need to be looked at. because the side effects of the meds have consequences too

But that's the basic way it has been for years now. The only difference is that not so many people are going to the hospitals this time. They are realizing that hospitals are the places to go to get sick, not to get well.

The biggest good point with this whole pandemic scenario is, if we aren't forced into forced vaccination or something, this whole pandemic just might shut the medical/FDA monopoly down. And it would be about time, too.

[USBitcoinServices.Com]

The biggest good point with this whole pandemic scenario is, if we aren't forced into forced vaccination or something, this whole pandemic just might shut the medical/FDA monopoly down. And it would be about time, too.

People don't need to take medications which are drugs and nothing healthy for their bodies, many of the current drugs provided by doctors are harmful to humans in the long term
It is about time, the medical industry business will die sooner than later if they don't replace the good stuff like natural remedies, helping people to improve the immune system rather than making their health worse.

[Naida_BR]

The outbreak is still not declining.
I think that we are going to face serious problems as we are going to May. The weather is getting better and people will start going out of home now and the virus will not be in decline soon.

[BADecker]

The outbreak is still not declining.
I think that we are going to face serious problems as we are going to May. The weather is getting better and people will start going out of home now and the virus will not be in decline soon.

But it will when enough media jokers get too sick to report... (never).

[Ibian]

After seeing things unfold a bit more, and seeing the increasingly totalitarian steps enforced by state mandate, I am starting to get a very clear picture that this event is being used to strip people of their freedoms. They are training us all to be disgusted with and fear one another. They are training us to report our neighbors if we leave our homes like we live in East Germany. They are training us to be told when we can leave your homes, where we can go, and what we can do when you get there. They are training you to accept being told where you can shop, what you can buy, and who can work. They are training us to accept universal basic income with the emergency payouts. They are even training us to accept the 5G control grid by using the bandwidth demand as an excuse to throttle connections to make us beg for 5G bandwidth.

I was supportive of this lock down at first because it was voluntary and optional. Now it is rapidly becoming totalitarian and based on force. We can't tolerate this being sustained much longer or else those freedoms will go away and will never be returned without a high price paid in blood. This event is being used to cripple the American economy (and others) and train us to be in a wartime mindset, and wartime is exactly what we are going to get if we don't start resisting these unconstitutional restrictions.

Or maybe there's a global pandemic and they're trying to stop the spread of a virus.

[tvbcof]

The outbreak is still not declining.
I think that we are going to face serious problems as we are going to May. The weather is getting better and people will start going out of home now and the virus will not be in decline soon.

Everyone who's paying attention knows that the numbers are fraudulent by now.  We've all seen the order that came down from the CDC for doctors to just call pretty much all death's 'covid-19', and we can all see on the historical charts that they are just stealing from the 'pneumonia' bucket and others to fill the 'covid-19' bucket.

You can fool the non-researching sheep, but so what?

One hypothetical answer according to this guy is that part of the magick of the sacrifice to these people is that the lamb has to trust you all the way to the point where you slit it's throat.  If the victim does not then it's flat out murder.

Here's one they did on the 'Mount of Olives' last year (cut in since the footage is boring to someone who doesn't understand all the mumbo-jumbo...and disturbing as fuck!)  Notice how the guy pets and compforts the goat.  The interesting thing is that in their belief system a Jewish person could not do the actual deed.  Had to get a 'Shabbot Goy' or whatever to perform the act.  As I understand it, things can and will change when they get their Third Temple.  Creepy shit man!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtFdAkw9kQM&t=612s

So, 'Trust the Plan' you-all.

[franky1]

and tvbcof's conspiracies al fall flat when there are microscope tsts, CT scans, xrays and doctors who take methodical notes because thats their job
then you take all the sick people that recover and they tell you its the worse thing they ever experienced. and then theres the ones that die through ARDS..

or.
theres a conspiracy theory made by internet blogger with no persona experience inside an ICU..

i know which one to believe.. the one with the facts and evidence not the 3rd hand theory

[TwitchySeal]

The outbreak is still not declining.
I think that we are going to face serious problems as we are going to May. The weather is getting better and people will start going out of home now and the virus will not be in decline soon.

Everyone who's paying attention knows that the numbers are fraudulent by now.

Anyone that is telling you they know exactly how the virus works, how it can be prevented or treated, and exactly what decision would result in the best outcome is a fraud. 

[BADecker]

and tvbcof's conspiracies al fall flat when there are microscope tsts, CT scans, xrays and doctors who take methodical notes because thats their job
then you take all the sick people that recover and they tell you its the worse thing they ever experienced. and then theres the ones that die through ARDS..

or.
theres a conspiracy theory made by internet blogger with no persona experience inside an ICU..

i know which one to believe.. the one with the facts and evidence not the 3rd hand theory

There are so very few of the kinds of tests you talk about, because they are complex tests, and they take a long time, and there are few people who know how to accurately interpret the results.

We need to keep this pandemic actively on the road if we are going to conquer the world.

[Spendulus]

and tvbcof's conspiracies al fall flat when there are microscope tsts, CT scans, xrays and doctors who take methodical notes because thats their job
then you take all the sick people that recover and they tell you its the worse thing they ever experienced. and then theres the ones that die through ARDS..

or.
theres a conspiracy theory made by internet blogger with no persona experience inside an ICU..

i know which one to believe.. the one with the facts and evidence not the 3rd hand theory

There are so very few of the kinds of tests you talk about, because they are complex tests, and they take a long time, and there are few people who know how to accurately interpret the results.

We need to keep this pandemic actively on the road if we are going to conquer the world.

Wait, you said it was all a lie.