[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Hueristic]

Has anyone else used this? I really love it! even has the correct colors.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitcoin-price-ticker/?src=api

Remember you have to go into the options to turn XMR on.

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[dEBRUYNE]

A new poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1071351.0

Also -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1071851.0

[QuantumQrack]

Has anyone else used this? I really love it! even has the correct colors.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitcoin-price-ticker/?src=api

Remember you have to go into the options to turn XMR on.

Pretty nifty actually!

[Bassica]

I think it's high time that btc-e dropped all those nonsense dinosaur coins and replace them with XMR. It just makes sense.

The longer they take to add Monero while keeping these shitcoin, worse are their perceived image overall IMO, Cryptsy e.g. has 0 trust from me now.

These exchanges might not have the technical ability to add XMR. When Mintpal upgraded to V2.0, most bitcoin clone coins were stolen by the owner, but not the XMR as he did not figure out a way to do that.

For cryptsy this can be debunked, since the devs offered help with integrating.

...and KoziTwo's payment gateway has been available for some time.

CrapSea is welcome to shun Monero for as long as they please.  That place is so scamcoin friendly (#1 Darkcoin volume and in bed with GAW/Paycoin) it would make XMR look bad to be seen there.

Forget them, the place we need to be is BTC-E.  Who is up for a trip to Bulgaria and fun with Putin's dark-glasses wearing buddies?   

This, with capital T H I & S.

Btc-e or bitfinex. A serious project deserves a serious exchange.

[macsga]

I've also suggested to Kraken about supporting XMR which (in their thread) Dargo replied that they're not yet considering it. BTW, exchanging XMRs in Polo under these circumstances, looks like an orchestrated movement which has it's (obvious) reasons. Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me. So yes; the sooner we have a bigger/better exchange, the better.

[dEBRUYNE]

I've also suggested to Kraken about supporting XMR which (in their thread) Dargo replied that they're not yet considering it. BTW, exchanging XMRs in Polo under these circumstances, looks like an orchestrated movement which has it's (obvious) reasons. Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me. So yes; the sooner we have a bigger/better exchange, the better.

Bitfinex would seriously come as a blessing right now. I agree with you on the bolded part, latest price movements just seem a bit unnaturel.

[smooth]

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it is very obvious that monero is dying,but now it is better to let it go, and say good bye.

mrkavasaki this is your last warning. You are welcome to express negative opinions about Monero and Monero's price outlook but at least include some kind of reasoning or explanation for it. If your posts do not add meaningfully to the conversation they will be deleted and you will earn the honor of the first person ever banned from the thread

[necrita]

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it is very obvious that monero is dying,but now it is better to let it go, and say good bye.

mrkavasaki this is your last warning. You are welcome to express negative opinions about Monero and Monero's price outlook but at least include some kind of reasoning or explanation for it. If your posts do not add meaningfully to the conversation they will be deleted and you will earn the honor of the first person ever banned from the thread

Smooth, please allow some light hearted trolling in the thread. Can't be all serious in the Monero thread?
mrkavasaki and TrueCryptonaire bring so much value to this thread. /jk

[aminorex]

By use as a___?

Contraceptive.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me.

You don't need a tinfoil hat to realize that pretty much every time there's volatility or significant movement in XMR's price, some kind of major disruption/panic occurs to thwart it. Every single time.

[kazuki49]

Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me.

You don't need a tinfoil hat to realize that pretty much every time there's volatility or significant movement in XMR's price, some kind of major disruption/panic occurs to thwart it. Every single time.

who ever is dumping now is doing us a service, the number of coins the XMR emission gave us the past year will now take 2 years 

[americanpegasus]

Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me.

You don't need a tinfoil hat to realize that pretty much every time there's volatility or significant movement in XMR's price, some kind of major disruption/panic occurs to thwart it. Every single time.

who ever is dumping now is doing us a service, the number of coins the XMR emission gave us the past year will now take 2 years 

 
 
It's crazy to think about...  It sounds quite unfair, but I can't find any good reason why it won't be true:  we are going to buy as much Monero as possible right now and hold onto it (no margin games), and in ten years we are going to be obscenely wealthy. 
 
All we can do is try to build and work with the technology, help new users, and vow to be responsible stewards of a great amount of wealth. 
 
I know I get euphoric sometimes, but honestly even if I never said a word it would still happen...  This thing is a beast that isn't past its tipping point yet, but once it reaches a certain 'critical mass' then I don't believe it's growth will be stoppable.

[jehst]

High supply inflation means that none of us really has any incentive to pump XMR. It's very expensive to maintain an XMR pump for any extended period of time. We do have the incentive to keep the price interesting enough so that the project doesn't die. But there's very little danger of death so long as the devs are committed. As I said a long time ago, don't fear the reaper. A near death experience will only give the devs an increased ability to add to their stakes. That will do nothing but improve the incentives of the devs.

[iCEBREAKER]

Not wearing any tinfoil hat here, but too many coincidences in order to move the price down looks fishy to me.

You don't need a tinfoil hat to realize that pretty much every time there's volatility or significant movement in XMR's price, some kind of major disruption/panic occurs to thwart it. Every single time.

who ever is dumping now is doing us a service, the number of coins the XMR emission gave us the past year will now take 2 years 

Markets are the ultimate contrarians; when everybody expects XMR's price to increase (irrational exuberance) it will always go down.

This is counter-intuitive, probably because our mammal monkey brains are not wired for Baysian filtering, and thus don't properly discount spammy price-hyping bias confirmations.

The new ability to short XMR acts to price in future emission and thus flatten demand peaks, sometimes to the point of trend-breaking technical damage.

In the longer term, this effect will be mitigated by the countervailing fact that XMR lending is removing tens of thousands of coins from the sell side, and by the inevitable short squeezes.

TL;DR:  Dear Mr. XMR Dumper, please borrow and dump moar XMR.  They still are seem too expensive for my cheapskate early-adopting ass to nobble and HLOD.

[iCEBREAKER]

High supply inflation means that none of us really has any incentive to pump XMR. It's very expensive to maintain an XMR pump for any extended period of time. We do have the incentive to keep the price interesting enough so that the project doesn't die. But there's very little danger of death so long as the devs are committed. As I said a long time ago, don't fear the reaper. A near death experience will only give the devs an increased ability to add to their stakes. That will do nothing but improve the incentives of the devs.

Wonderful post!  Fantastic insights!  It's almost as if you have seen this movie before.   

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[legit_chocolateface]

I dont know what is about Monero holders,  they alll seem to exhibit this strange sense of fanatical, zealous self-assuredness of it's undeniable superiority which just comes across a little to jehovas' witnessy to me. It's like watching a late night infomercial or reading one of these ebook self-improvement pitches..in this thread it's always laughing at the fools who dump.. (haha, nervous laughter) personally I dumped and brought back lower successfully many more times than I've been burned trying it so don't personally feel too much like a fool. Also everything is apparently an orchestrated attack against monero to keep it down.. THEY are trying and hold back this torrential waterfall that will be the monero success story.. The powers that be and the haters are pulling out every stop to contain this raging monero beast.. Yawn   

there is this unrelenting undercurrent being broadcast here that yes, buying and hodling a pithy amount of this bytecoin fork will allow you to buy a private island in Belize in 2-5 years. If you buy you will become soon the new wealthy elite, gentlement.. And yes you may not be able to find a single solitary purpose to holding this "currency" aside from buying a fleet of gulfstreams and a lifetime ski resort pass as there is not yet a single scrap of merchant adoption despite a year since inception and almost half fully mined.. but don't let that stop those like americanpegasus and rpietila who have nest-eggs overflowing with monero into encouraging you to gorge yourself on as much "cheap" xmr as possible. how many times we heard that before?

 with anonymity this currencies chief tenet (at this time quite a weak attraction as pretty much the only place to trade it- poloniex spectacularly  un-anonymous,  it's current sky-high inflation and many large holders concentrating wealth it doesn't seem anywhere near as groundbreaking as it's chief proponents try and insinuate.

I'm also sick of seeing this monero thread bumped to the front page of the altcoin discussion page by the same few posters. At last it's slightly more bearable than the 15 different monero threads but still almost every other altcoin sticks to the less trafficed altcoin announcement page

[kazuki49]

I'm also sick of seeing this monero thread bumped to the front page of the altcoin discussion page by the same few posters. At last it's slightly more bearable than the 15 different monero threads but still almost every other altcoin sticks to the less trafficed altcoin announcement page

I know how you feel, I have asked the devs to abandon this sinking ship full of rats and holes that is bitcointalk, they wont hear, its doing harm to Monero having the majority of its discussion in an alien forum, about the rest of your rant, you just hate us cause you aint us.

[DaveyJones]

I'm also sick of seeing this monero thread bumped to the front page of the altcoin discussion page by the same few posters. At last it's slightly more bearable than the 15 different monero threads but still almost every other altcoin sticks to the less trafficed altcoin announcement page

I know how you feel, I have asked the devs to abandon this sinking ship full of rats and holes that is bitcointalk, they wont hear, its doing harm to Monero having the majority of its discussion in an alien forum, about the rest of your rant, you just hate us cause you aint us.

Stills this forum in inevitable to get those to hear about Monero, who still didn´t. The GetMonero Forum is more like the Inner Circle for those people that did. BCT is like the Social Media Platform for Cryptos.

[kazuki49]

I'm also sick of seeing this monero thread bumped to the front page of the altcoin discussion page by the same few posters. At last it's slightly more bearable than the 15 different monero threads but still almost every other altcoin sticks to the less trafficed altcoin announcement page

I know how you feel, I have asked the devs to abandon this sinking ship full of rats and holes that is bitcointalk, they wont hear, its doing harm to Monero having the majority of its discussion in an alien forum, about the rest of your rant, you just hate us cause you aint us.

Stills this forum in inevitable to get those to hear about Monero, who still didn´t. The GetMonero Forum is more like the Inner Circle for those people that did. BCT is like the Social Media Platform for Cryptos.

This is the convenient part to us, but for the ones like legit_chocolateface that may see Monero as a threat to their shitcoin investment, its a reason to troll, so pretty much everyone on crypto already knows about Monero, the next step now is getting in the ears of those who don't, and it cannot be this way IMO, buried in the bitcointalk - altcoin section some few threads of pure platinum bits among thousands of scams and trolls.

[rpietila]

I'm also sick of seeing this monero thread bumped to the front page of the altcoin discussion page by the same few posters. At last it's slightly more bearable than the 15 different monero threads but still almost every other altcoin sticks to the less trafficed altcoin announcement page

I have asked the devs to abandon development, the holders to sell all their coins, the posters to cease posting to this thread, and the community to quit thinking that the coin could have even a microscopic chance to change the world.

No avail.

I said that it is doomed but I did not see any fucks given