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July 28, 2012, 07:43:13 AM
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The alleged promise of mysterious relic collector to return funds is meaningless as long as Zhou maintains that there is no way for them to be accepted.  All that is required is for them so be sent to an an accountant or lawyer's trust fund - and Chris Heaslip is an accountant as well as a nominal director of Bitcoinica.  That puts Zhou at arm's length from receiving them and puts them in safe-keeping until such time as what the fuck is happening with the return of user funds is sorted out.

At this point I honestly expect to hear that mysterious relic collector has changed his mind about returning the funds, leaving Bitcoinica and its users in limbo once again.

How convenient for him   Smiley

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July 28, 2012, 08:16:55 AM
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Ah the old bait and switch

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July 28, 2012, 08:20:15 AM
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Chen Jianhai is my previous business associate.

If he has been in business with this guy then what business was it ? Unless you consider credit card fraud a business.



tldr you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. I know none of my previous "business associates" are international fraudsters  Smiley

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July 28, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
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Chen Jianhai is my previous business associate.

If he has been in business with this guy then what business was it ? Unless you consider credit card fraud a business.



tldr you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. I know none of my previous "business associates" are international fraudsters  Smiley

Your tl;dr was longer than the post it attempted to summarise.

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Chen Jianhai is my previous business associate.

If he has been in business with this guy then what business was it ? Unless you consider credit card fraud a business.



tldr you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. I know none of my previous "business associates" are international fraudsters  Smiley

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July 28, 2012, 09:08:33 AM
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Chen Jianhai is my previous business associate.

If he has been in business with this guy then what business was it ? Unless you consider credit card fraud a business.



tldr you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. I know none of my previous "business associates" are international fraudsters  Smiley

Your tl;dr was longer than the post it attempted to summarise.

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July 28, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
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The question you're really raising is whether he's actually the person who created Bitcoinica or he was just a frontman.
The answer is actually both. He's both the original creator of Bitcoinica and a frontman for the "advisor".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48850.msg587530#msg587530
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55970.msg673426#msg673426

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July 28, 2012, 01:19:04 PM
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The question you're really raising is whether he's actually the person who created Bitcoinica or he was just a frontman.
The answer is actually both. He's both the original creator of Bitcoinica and a frontman for the "advisor".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48850.msg587530#msg587530
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55970.msg673426#msg673426


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Quote from: zhoutong on January 04, 2012, 12:31:19 AM
And I have access to my advisor, who is a forex broker himself.

Any bets on who this is ?


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July 28, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
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Makes you wonder if Zhou Tong isnt a public figurehead for someone else working the strings.

Just consider one point, he was terrible with written english and transformed overnight as if there were two seperate entities controlling his account.

Yeh this is likely fringe conspiracy but its hard to know whats really true anymore.

Can you say scam cabal?

There's probably some noble Englishmen involved in all this. Of course the Queen wouldn't know about that.

Fuck I love those guys.

Relic collections.. frickin nuts!

They probably have some skulls dipped in gold, too.





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July 28, 2012, 01:26:12 PM
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zhou, you should find a lawyer and stop talking. even if you're innocent (which i'm assuming you are), its ALWAYS best to say nothing and let your lawyer(s) speak on your behalf.

He's not going to get a lawyer... what would he say?

"Uh, I stole a shitload of money and spent it, now they found out it was me and they want it back.  Help me."??

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July 28, 2012, 01:43:58 PM
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Interesting.
Any bets on who this is ?
I'm fine with the "experienced forex broker" answer.

Legally, I would say Bitcoinica is operating in the graceful period of unregulated operation. My advisor has arranged consultations with two lawyers in Singapore and we're going to settle the legal stuff soon.

Somebody with years of experience in a regulated industry would be a very good advisor on how to operate in the grey zone, e.g. operate out of Singapore but accept only US dollars not Singaporean dollars.

Also the UI choices show signs of a deliberation. The UI is so easy to use that only easy marks would want to use it.

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July 28, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
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WTF!!! Huh the money is back? Cheesy

can i have my 40 btc now, please?

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July 28, 2012, 03:32:31 PM
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Quote from: zhoutong on January 04, 2012, 12:31:19 AM
And I have access to my advisor, who is a forex broker himself.

Any bets on who this is ?
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July 28, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
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Genius!
zhoutong is Maria's husband!
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July 28, 2012, 03:40:42 PM
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Zhoutong is gay?
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July 28, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
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Did you see those white framed glasses?
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July 28, 2012, 03:50:25 PM
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Did you see those white framed glasses?

(he's 17).  Zhou.  I'm just kidding.  It ok if you are gay.  But not if you are the master hacker.  I hope you are keeping notes.  This will make a great book when you get out of jail.
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July 28, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
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Interesting.
Any bets on who this is ?
I'm fine with the "experienced forex broker" answer.

Legally, I would say Bitcoinica is operating in the graceful period of unregulated operation. My advisor has arranged consultations with two lawyers in Singapore and we're going to settle the legal stuff soon.

Somebody with years of experience in a regulated industry would be a very good advisor on how to operate in the grey zone, e.g. operate out of Singapore but accept only US dollars not Singaporean dollars.

Also the UI choices show signs of a deliberation. The UI is so easy to use that only easy marks would want to use it.

These posts were made right around the time of the "secret sale" to Tihan/Wendon group, so it seems that would be the "advisor" he's referring to here.

Perhaps "Chen Jianhai" was a fraud-advisor for zhou's sgitcoin.com. Perhaps..

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July 28, 2012, 05:53:59 PM
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zhoutong = Weldon ??
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