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July 31, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
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So what I think what ZT not want to happen is have to leave Australia for any reasons. But Australia don't want criminal individuals in it's country. What is the residence permit of him for Australia? And if he is guilty what's then?

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July 31, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
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July 31, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
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It looks like Zhou Tong has a pantent. Quite a feat for a 17 year old.

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US 8,213,196 B2   

POWER SUPPLY CIRCUIT WITH PROTECTING CIRCUIT HAVING SWITCH ELEMENT FOR PROTECTING PULSE WIDTH MODULATION CIRCUIT
He-Kang Zhou, Shenzhen (China); and Tong Zhou, Shenzhen (China)
Assigned to Innocom Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd., Shenzhen (China); and Chimei Innolux Corporation, Miaoli County (Taiwan)
Filed on Dec. 29, 2008, as Appl. No. 12/317,865.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week27/OG/html/1380-1/US08213196-20120703.html
"Zhou Tong" is like "John Smith" around here, from what I gather, so that could be pretty much anyone.
+1. Zhou Tong (周同) is a quite common name in Chinese history, not to mention the immense amount of similar sounding variations (like 周侗 etc)

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July 31, 2012, 04:26:04 PM
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?

I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.

Later, all.

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July 31, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.

Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created.

You conveniently pass this over every time. Your shilling is beyond obvious - I just can't figure out why.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063838#msg1063838

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063850#msg1063850

So, I have done a deal "for a friend" on AurumXchange using my own account.

And I have also done a deal "for a friend" on QQ using a friend's account?

Both happened before I had any clue of the investigation.

I did the deals, but all in much larger amounts with my own account.



At this point I feel the shilling from rarity, dree12, and Mathew N. Queer comes from getting paid. Either that, or the first two are just sock puppets of this criminal organization spearheaded by Zhou.

You are right, no answer has been given as to why Zhou sold LR from an account that was supposedly opened by a hacker. There won't be either, because he can't make any shit up. He already stuck his foot in its entirety up his mouth on that one.

You know what is really interesting too? Zhou confessed that the email address used on the hacks was his "semi sock puppet secret email" that he used to test vulnerabilities on exchangers. He even went to say that he returned the funds he "stole" from an exchanger after finding a vulnerability.

So far so good... now, CHECK THIS OUT:

Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (Huh). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!"

Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from himself? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12.



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July 31, 2012, 04:32:22 PM
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?

I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.

Later, all.

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I was reading all you posted here and in the other thread.
And honestly, that stuff is too random to me.. Its like getting an uncommented sourcecode from someone - I would eventually scrap it and start all over again.. ;-)
Don't worry about the ignores. I have had a strong itch to start ignoring people here of lately. Seems like quite a few people are somewhat tense.. heh

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July 31, 2012, 04:37:30 PM
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Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (Huh). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!"

Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from him? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12.
I just want to clear this up.

1. The thread was posted in May of this year. I did not start it "yesterday".
2. I am not a sock-puppet of Zhou Tong. In fact, I registered earlier than him.
3. The thread is meant to be as neutral as possible. I have listed Zhou as a suspect for the hack with as much recognition as he deserves.
4. The red header is meant as a warning. It is much less sensationalist now.
5. The value hacked from BTC-E is now listed at 4500 BTC, the official estimate.

As I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times now, I will now withdraw from this thread, along with my radical views. I can assure you, this is my only account on these forums.
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July 31, 2012, 04:38:18 PM
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?

I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.

Later, all.

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July 31, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?

I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.

Later, all.

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Dude, I have liked the research you have done in the past, but lately your stuff just comes off completely demented and unorganized. Also when you posts things like "I am pretty sure when I come back I will be dropping some names" you sound like a 15 year old attention whore. If you have something to add to the table just do it, no cliffhangers though.

Don't get me wrong, like I said, some of your previous research has proven to be brilliant, and I hope your research about Zhou Scam goes somewhere too so we can finally nail this little mofo and his "relic collector" stories!

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July 31, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
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Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created.

You conveniently pass this over every time.

As I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times now, I will now withdraw from this thread

Thank you. If you didn't notice, you passed over the LR-selling once again in your first reply. I consider the question of shilling to have been answered now.

(I'm still asking for anyone who has met either Zhou or Tihan in person to step forward)

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At this point I feel the shilling from rarity, dree12, and Mathew N. Queer comes from getting paid. Either that, or the first two are just sock puppets of this criminal organization spearheaded by Zhou.

You are right, no answer has been given as to why Zhou sold LR from an account that was supposedly open by a hacker. There won't be either, because he can't make any shit up. He already stuck his foot in its entirety up his mouth on that one.

You know what is really interesting too? Zhou confessed that the email address used on the hacks was his "semi sock puppet secret email" that he used to test vulnerabilities on exchangers. He even went to say that he returned the funds he "stole" from an exchanger after finding a vulnerability.

So far so good... now, CHECK THIS OUT:

Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (Huh). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!"



List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses
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Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from him? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12.


Thank you, I had a good laugh!

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July 31, 2012, 05:11:19 PM
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List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses
26.May.2012, 21:39:04

Ente

I think he means the last updated date of July 31, rather than the thread start date.

But I agree with you, and I don't see any evidence that ZT hacked BTC-e.

With Bitcoinica he had all the passwords and knew the procedures and addresses to attack.  Not to mention the evidence collected against him.  And I don't think he would commit another crime when he is under investigation for a major crime already.

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July 31, 2012, 05:26:42 PM
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At this point I feel the shilling from rarity, dree12, and Mathew N. Queer comes from getting paid. Either that, or the first two are just sock puppets of this criminal organization spearheaded by Zhou.

That is a possibility. Zhou mentioned he donated a significant sum of money to Matthews projects after the Bitcoinica sale. Perhaps Matthew is worried some of the proceeds from the sale might be clawed back at a future date? It is also possible that Zhou donated some more towards his projects in return for his help doing some damage control. Most likely he is just voicing his own opinion.

Matthew used to get loans from Bitcoinica for dialcoin and stuff. Matthew was involved with bitcoinica. How much involvement and how official was it, I do not know. I asked him to tell us but he did not want to, I don't know why.

It's just a few personal loans. They aren't even tied to Bitcoinica. When the site was acquired, the creditor becomes me as an individual.

Matthew was very familiar with the Bitcoin community and he offered a lot of help to me at early stage of Bitcoinica development. I really appreciate that. And I also donate a significant sum to his projects after the sale.

These are all entirely personal so I didn't talk about it at all. He did advise me to incorporate in Singapore and I followed his advice for a month. The acquisition happened just when I'm about to form Bitcoinica Pte Ltd with two partners who have experience in this field. So I wouldn't think it's any kind of involvement or even CEO.

Rarity appears to be a well educated troll. Dree12 just seems your average bitcointalk user (just because you don't agree does not mean others are paid shills)
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July 31, 2012, 07:12:18 PM
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.

Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created.

You conveniently pass this over every time. Your shilling is beyond obvious - I just can't figure out why.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063838#msg1063838

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063850#msg1063850

So, I have done a deal "for a friend" on AurumXchange using my own account.

And I have also done a deal "for a friend" on QQ using a friend's account?

Both happened before I had any clue of the investigation.

I did the deals, but all in much larger amounts with my own account.



At this point I feel the shilling from rarity, dree12, and Mathew N. Queer comes from getting paid. Either that, or the first two are just sock puppets of this criminal organization spearheaded by Zhou.

You are right, no answer has been given as to why Zhou sold LR from an account that was supposedly opened by a hacker. There won't be either, because he can't make any shit up. He already stuck his foot in its entirety up his mouth on that one.

You know what is really interesting too? Zhou confessed that the email address used on the hacks was his "semi sock puppet secret email" that he used to test vulnerabilities on exchangers. He even went to say that he returned the funds he "stole" from an exchanger after finding a vulnerability.

So far so good... now, CHECK THIS OUT:

Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (Huh). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!"

Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from himself? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12.


Deflecting attention is a favorite pastime of theirs. Glenn Beck is an advocating of suck sockpuppetry. Another ruse would be to discuss mundane subjects like, I don't know, maybe the proper use of the word "or".

As I've stated prior, I didn't loose a single Satoshi in Bitcoinica, but indirectly I'm paying a heavy toll due to all this. I've had to close (move lumber) three warehouses, two due to EPA regulations and the other over zoning, none of which may have come to light if I had not espoused how wonderful Bitcoin is (and still do) to an acquaintance, whereupon his first foray into Bitcoin was with Bitcoinica.

If it weren't for that, I probably wouldn't have stuck my nose in this mess so heavily, nor started amassing ignores. That aspect really hurts. It wouldn't surprise me at the least that sockpuppets weren't created for the sole purpose of exercising that option. Only the admins here would know for sure.

That said, and with all due respect to those I've held to high standards, I now have no choice but to start pointing fingers.

Full Disclosure: Any actions (that of penning posts) I take is for the betterment of Bitcoin and this community, and NOT for any type of revenge.

For those who don't have me on their ignore list, PLEASE take a full look at Charlie Shrem and that quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck.

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July 31, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?

I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.

Later, all.

~Bruno~


Dude, I have liked the research you have done in the past, but lately your stuff just comes off completely demented and unorganized. Also when you posts things like "I am pretty sure when I come back I will be dropping some names" you sound like a 15 year old attention whore. If you have something to add to the table just do it, no cliffhangers though.

Don't get me wrong, like I said, some of your previous research has proven to be brilliant, and I hope your research about Zhou Scam goes somewhere too so we can finally nail this little mofo and his "relic collector" stories!

I just got to this post. Fair enough, shad0wbitz. You're right about coming across as a 15-year-old, but when this 52-year-old penned that post, I wasn't in a proper state of mind.

Thanks for your post. I will do better.

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For those who don't have me on their ignore list, PLEASE take a full look at Charlie Shrem and that quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck.

Peace, all.

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Wait, what?

- 'full look at Charlie Shrem'

- 'quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck'

Care to explain?

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For those who don't have me on their ignore list, PLEASE take a full look at Charlie Shrem and that quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck.

Peace, all.

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Wait, what?

- 'full look at Charlie Shrem'

- 'quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck'

Care to explain?

-Charlie

Several times, Patrick has been asked about his background, but he has conveniently side-stepped that topic. Therefore, I took it upon myself to research him, and your name came up, thus checking into your previous background. But you would have nothing to fear if there's nothing there, now would you? The worse case scenario is that I come across as a nut.

Now, I want to know is what relation is William W Muck to Patrick A. Murck using the same office address in Washington D.C.

And what the hell is this page all about? http://brainopera.tumblr.com/page/2

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Another Dustin Curtis Whois--the guy who had for sale lifepath.me on eBay and that Zhou Tong owns:

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Kevin Lim
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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ISTHEREASON.COM
Created on: 08-Aug-04
Expires on: 08-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 09-Aug-11

Administrative Contact:
Lim, Kevin brainopera@gmail.com
Pine Grove, Block 1K, #01-39
Singapore, 599001
Singapore
+65.97371764

Technical Contact:
Lim, Kevin brainopera@gmail.com
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For those who don't have me on their ignore list, PLEASE take a full look at Charlie Shrem and that quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck.

Peace, all.

~Bruno~


Wait, what?

- 'full look at Charlie Shrem'

- 'quasi-lawyer, Patrick A. Murck'

Care to explain?

-Charlie

Several times, Patrick has been asked about his background, but he has conveniently side-stepped that topic. Therefore, I took it upon myself to research him, and your name came up, thus checking into your previous background. But you would have nothing to fear if there's nothing there, now would you? The worse case scenario is that I come across as a nut.

Now, I want to know is what relation is William W Muck to Patrick A. Murck using the same office address in Washington D.C.

And what the hell is this page all about? http://brainopera.tumblr.com/page/2

~Bruno~

Your more than welcome to research him, myself or whoever you want.

Bitinstant, myself and my team have always been an open book regarding information and we do not intend to stop now.
In fact, I'd go as far to say we are the most transparent and have always preached this and influenced others to do the same. This is undebatable.

Patrick was brought onto our team a few months ago as a general house counsel and working on a few projects (We announced this months ago in the forum)

I have no idea who William is or what that page is.

Honestly if you want information, its better you ask directly by contacting Patrick or myself. Both our cell phone numbers are listed on these forums.
Additionally, your more than welcome to visit either of our offices in NY or Seattle where we respectively go every day.

I'm sure you know this already, but sometimes your questions come off as ill-intended and agressive. You and I know this to not be the case, but new members do not.

I'm surprised you haven't reached out to either of us already, since your conducting your research.

EDIT:

Also, I don't know what your definition of 'quasi-lawyer' is but someone who went to the Columbus School of Law, worked for Fletcher, Heald & Hildreth, PLC, head of biz dev at BigDoor, and a member of the bar in Washington DC is definitely a lawyer in my standard. Please edit your post.

When we hired him, we did our own due diligence as expected.

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Who is Kevin Lim?

Lim, Kevin = Zhou, Tong Huh

Another Dustin Curtis Whois--the guy who had for sale lifepath.me on eBay and that Zhou Tong owns:

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Registrant:
Kevin Lim
Pine Grove, Block 1K, #01-39
Singapore, 599001
Singapore

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ISTHEREASON.COM
Created on: 08-Aug-04
Expires on: 08-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 09-Aug-11

Administrative Contact:
Lim, Kevin brainopera@gmail.com
Pine Grove, Block 1K, #01-39
Singapore, 599001
Singapore
+65.97371764

Technical Contact:
Lim, Kevin brainopera@gmail.com
Pine Grove, Block 1K, #01-39
Singapore, 599001
Singapore
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