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July 31, 2012, 01:41:13 PM
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Truth 6: I didn't steal the money.

ZT stole 20k of bitcoins

At least Zhou is providing information. What are you doing other than frothing?

I can do whatever I want - I didn't steal coins from the community.

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July 31, 2012, 01:44:35 PM
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Truth 6: I didn't steal the money.

ZT stole 20k of bitcoins

At least Zhou is providing information. What are you doing other than frothing?

I can do whatever I want - I didn't steal coins from the community.

So basically you're saying Zhou Tong can do whatever he wants as well?

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July 31, 2012, 01:49:11 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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July 31, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?
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July 31, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!

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July 31, 2012, 01:54:33 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

Please do!  All the evidence points to Zhou stealing the funds.  Even Zhou himself validated the evidence by saying it was correct but he was framed.  Zhou never provided any evidence this "friend" even existed. All he did was say it.   Cheesy

You're just one of those people who believes everything they are told.  Sad  Time to go to church, Mr gullible!

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July 31, 2012, 01:55:22 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!

Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...

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July 31, 2012, 01:56:05 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

Sure. Since I don't remember you posting any evidence. The only thing you posted as evidence that zhou is interested in bitcoin's success, which I already proved to be wrong.
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July 31, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
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Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...

It's the first post of this thread.   Smiley   Seriously - stick to publishing; you'd make a lousy detective.

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July 31, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
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I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act.
Since Bitcoinica did not file a police report (as far as I know), from legal point of view there is no reason to assume there is a criminal act involved. Technically, Bitcoinica's computers were (allegedly) compromised. That would be the criminal act if it was reported.
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July 31, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!

Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...


Friend, buddy, associate... Same thing in this context.
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July 31, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
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I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act.
Since Bitcoinica did not file a police report (as far as I know), from legal point of view there is no reason to assume there is a criminal act involved. Technically, Bitcoinica's computers were (allegedly) compromised. That would be the criminal act if it was reported.

ZT did not file charges against his "friend" either.  If I had a friend who took a large sum of money and made it look like I did it, I would report that right away.  I certainly wouldn't protect my friend's identity.   Cheesy

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July 31, 2012, 02:01:56 PM
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Please click always on this below if it appears:

"Advertisement: Bitcoin is worth $10 each on NameTerrific."

I don't want to see this every time and we should protect Newbies.  Grin

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July 31, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
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Please click always on this below if it appears:

"Advertisement: Bitcoin is worth $10 each on NameTerrific."

I don't want to see this every time and we should protect Newbies.  Grin
There is nothing wrong with NameTerrific.

Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


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This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

Sure. Since I don't remember you posting any evidence. The only thing you posted as evidence that zhou is interested in bitcoin's success, which I already proved to be wrong.
So he's not interested in Bitcoin's success, eh? Well, that explains blowing his cover by selling his coins the very next day.

Bullshit.
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July 31, 2012, 02:16:09 PM
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So he's not interested in Bitcoin's success, eh? Well, that explains blowing his cover by selling his coins the very next day.

Bullshit.

And that's your evidence? BULLSHIT.
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July 31, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
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So he's not interested in Bitcoin's success, eh? Well, that explains blowing his cover by selling his coins the very next day.

Bullshit.

And that's your evidence? BULLSHIT.

What's yours? Oh, wait, also bullshit.

Both explanations are terrible. I believe mine to be better.
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July 31, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
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Please click always on this below if it appears:

"Advertisement: Bitcoin is worth $10 each on NameTerrific."

I don't want to see this every time and we should protect Newbies.  Grin
There is nothing wrong with NameTerrific.

Indeed it is brand new! BUT I would not trust the person behind this business because the whole story smells like bullshit.

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July 31, 2012, 02:21:42 PM
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I note that in his most recent response (which actually tells us nothing new), Patrick has again neglected to tell us if he has obtained a warrant for his actions and what he is permitted to do. As you should all be able to tell, this is a pretty important area of ambiguity that needs clarification. Please answer the question Patrick.
Patrick acted upon the request of Bitcoinica's creditors. Since Bitcoinica, to our best knowledge, did not file a police report, nor seems to care whether the funds are returned to the creditors or not, it might be possible to argue that the creditors are the legitimate owners.
Really? Because I'm a creditor and I don't ever recall authorizing that.

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July 31, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
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Chinese law enforcement can't investigate this as much as you guys would want them too. I suggest hiring a Private I. in this case and getting the evidence through them.

The Chinese are known for bureaucracy like no other.

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July 31, 2012, 02:27:27 PM
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I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act.
Since Bitcoinica did not file a police report (as far as I know), from legal point of view there is no reason to assume there is a criminal act involved. Technically, Bitcoinica's computers were (allegedly) compromised. That would be the criminal act if it was reported.

ZT did not file charges against his "friend" either.  If I had a friend who took a large sum of money and made it look like I did it, I would report that right away.  I certainly wouldn't protect my friend's identity.   Cheesy

Oh so he didn't say friend, you're just adding that part yourself? And he didn't protect his identity either and basically told everyone here exactly who it was?

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