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August 01, 2012, 07:37:48 PM
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According to this http://soundcloud.com/brainopera/following, you're in NY. Have you tried out Meze Grill? And, would you be so kind as to go over the OnlyOne studios and give an interview on how you're going to return all the stolen Bitcoinica funds? While there, don't forget to exchange BlowBobs.

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August 01, 2012, 07:40:33 PM
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Great image, Kevin!

http://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000000259852-e40a8d-crop.jpg?d699587

According to this http://soundcloud.com/brainopera/following, you're in NY. Have you tried out Meze Grill? And, would you be so kind as to go over the OnlyOne studios and give an interview on how you're going to return all the stolen Bitcoinica funds? While there, don't forget to exchange BlowBobs.

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ZT, don't tell me you are an Obama fan, seriously?  

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August 01, 2012, 10:25:15 PM
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It is so ironic that nameterrific ads are appearing on this thread.

 

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August 01, 2012, 10:27:24 PM
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The problem I see is that the forum, the bitcoin magazine, and every other bitcoin outlet out there has been bought and paid for by Zhou Tong. He was smart that way. Whatever information you are able to produce, will be dismissed by the forum.

You can clearly see that people like Rarity, Matthew and Maged have received, and/or continue to receive, stolen funds to quell any uprising.

It's unfortunate that this theft has split the community the way it has.  Sad

I'm not sure why how "the forum" regards information is relevant if the purpose of retaining a private investigator is to obtain location information so that those who wish to file criminal or civil complaints are able to set those complaints in motion.  The validity of those complaints isn't going to be investigated by "the forum" (which is divided on the issues anyway), so whether the forum dismisses the information is largely irrelevant anyway.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 01, 2012, 10:32:27 PM
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The problem I see is that the forum, the bitcoin magazine, and every other bitcoin outlet out there has been bought and paid for by Zhou Tong. He was smart that way. Whatever information you are able to produce, will be dismissed by the forum.

You can clearly see that people like Rarity, Matthew and Maged have received, and/or continue to receive, stolen funds to quell any uprising.

It's unfortunate that this theft has split the community the way it has.  Sad

I hate to break it to you but I work for Bitcoin Magazine. The magazine is in no way supported, bought or even affiliated with Zhou Tong. I'm sure if you will follow my posts you can see that I have been in favor of getting to the bottom of this without prejudice. I find the notion that you or someone else would consider us as bought by Zhou, insulting on many levels. You are insinuating that we do not have journalistic integrity, which if you read the article on our website about this incident you will see just how wrong you are.

Matthew is Matthew and his statements are in no way to be considered as representing the magazine unless he explicitly says so.
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August 01, 2012, 10:33:13 PM
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You can say "It's been quoted" again a few times, that doesnt make it true somehow.
I read the whole frickin' story and never saw mlawrence threatening to injure/kill anyone anywhere.

You might have interpreted it that way, but thats not the fault of the poster.

Sorry to say, but it was the mods who acted on BS-reasons here, which makes the whole forum start smelling fishy.


And to make that clear:
I don't give a shit if Zhou was the hacker, or a mysterious relic collector, or Obama himself,
i just blame the Bitcoin(ica) Consultancy/Intersango guys instead,
they were in charge, they told us "he didn't steal your money, but ours, we'll pay you back", yet they didn't,
they don't react at all anymore to anyone, they just ran away with our money.

They treated their customers like shit and probably still do.
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August 01, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
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It has already been quoted and the mods decided to shut down your thread.  Stop acting like a six year old pretending you can get out of what you did with a tantrum.

What has already been quoted?  You're telling me your only evidence is something that was deleted?  I'm telling you it never happened, and I am of sound mind and body. 

Stop acting like a child and produce the quote or STFU - I have never threatened anybody.

Both of you, stop your private war here. It gets annoying. People who repeatedly write on public message boards are usually not the ones you have to be afraid about. If I was one of the Intersango people, or Zhou Tong, I'd be very worried about the angry people out there who are still trying to get back what belongs to them. Mobs are prejudiced and tend to do stupid things. Whoever is in control should have done anything in their might to prevent that from happening. Someone warned here about the first Bitcoin related violence/worse and I hope it never happens, but seriously, Bitcoin is money and money is Bitcoin. It wouldn't be different from any other crime related to money. Bitcoin has never been innocent by the way, or did you guys forget about silk road already?
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August 01, 2012, 10:39:12 PM
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I hate to break it to you but I work for Bitcoin Magazine. The magazine is in no way supported, bought or even affiliated with Zhou Tong. I'm sure

Are you denying that Zhou made a substantial contribution to your magazine?

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You can say "It's been quoted" again a few times, that doesnt make it true somehow.
I read the whole frickin' story and never saw mlawrence threatening to injure/kill anyone anywhere.

Thank you - I wonder how Maged managed to see something that exists only in Rarity's delusions?

And what contribution exactly did he make to the MAGAZINE? He donated money in 2011 to BitTalk TV which was used in part for the Christmas special. The magazine had yet to have been announced at this point and the money was long gone before any work was started on it. ZERO funds from Zhou have gone into the magazine and he has ZERO stake in the company. That is a fact.
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August 01, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
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You better get used to invasion Zhou, cause it's going to get a lot worse.

Where I come from we don't let people steal half a million dollars and get away with it.

That's all I'm going to say about that anymore, since I'm not going to incriminate myself further.

I'm not letting him get away with it - I'm hiring a PI to bring him to justice and he will spend years in prison.  "Invasion" will become a nightly thing for him.   Wink

Thanks for producing that quote and showing everyone I never really threatened anyone.

Have a great afternoon!   Smiley

As I tried to explain, quoting is pointless.  He now pretends the part of the quote where he admits his actions are criminal did not occur, what is the point of quoting someone who won't take responsibility for their own quotes?

OK. We got it. Can we get back on topic now?

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August 01, 2012, 10:50:40 PM
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OK. We got it. Can we get back on topic now?

I sure hope so, dealing with tantrums like that can take it out of me.  Still looking forward to having kids someday though. Smiley

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August 01, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
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You better get used to invasion Zhou, cause it's going to get a lot worse.

Where I come from we don't let people steal half a million dollars and get away with it.

That's all I'm going to say about that anymore, since I'm not going to incriminate myself further.

I'm not letting him get away with it - I'm hiring a PI to bring him to justice and he will spend years in prison.  "Invasion" will become a nightly thing for him.   Wink

Thanks for producing that quote and showing everyone I never really threatened anyone.

Have a great afternoon!   Smiley

A PI can't "bring him to justice".  At best, they can uncover information which may assist police with an investigation, which may help lawyers prepare a civil action, or which may be useful for liquidators or others investigating the Bitcoinica collapse (and possible information which would be relevant to the AurumXchange AML investigation).

It is ridiculous to assert that Zhou will "spend years in prison".  Even if sufficient evidence was found to warrant criminal charges being pursued, it's utterly unclear right now which country would have jurisdiction and what specific charges would be applicable - and those things greatly influence the type of sentence which would be imposed if prosecution resulted in conviction.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 01, 2012, 11:10:25 PM
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It is ridiculous to assert that Zhou will "spend years in prison".  Even if sufficient evidence was found to warrant criminal charges being pursued, it's utterly unclear right now which country would have jurisdiction and what specific charges would be applicable - and those things greatly influence the type of sentence which would be imposed if prosecution resulted in conviction.

Countries with jurisdiction over this matter includes New Zealand, USA, and any country whose citizens or resident is missing funds that were deposited on Bitcoinica.

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August 01, 2012, 11:14:29 PM
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And what contribution exactly did he make to the MAGAZINE? He donated money in 2011 to BitTalk TV which was used in part for the Christmas special. The magazine had yet to have been announced at this point and the money was long gone before any work was started on it. ZERO funds from Zhou have gone into the magazine and he has ZERO stake in the company. That is a fact.

I'll accept that.

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August 02, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
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Rarity, augustocroppo and mlawrence please continue your debate elsewhere and quit clogging up this thread. I had to split the discussion between Matthew and Chaang-Noi here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97141.0 and it's a PITA to do so.

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August 02, 2012, 03:34:44 AM
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I think that at this point we can safely move away from the idea that Zhou Tong is some 17-year-old kid. I believe that the only reason funds are trickling back is because Kevin Lim has a lot at stake, and it's his reputation that is at risk, not a made-up avatar named Zhou Tong.

Now, who is going to be the first to disprove that Zhou Tong = Kevin Lim?

~Bruno~


I and the user dishwara already figured this out at page 22 and 23, post #427 and #452.

You, the "we", are more than late.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063040#msg1063040

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Also when i read all his posts, i don't think he is 17 year old person.
He using English language very well & not typing as a normal 17 year old do , like using smileys, acronyms....slang language, meme....
I think he must be at least 25+ years old to type with out using any normal 17 guys use to chat.
His replies shows a professionalism.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063434#msg1063434

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There is a ghost writer following the instructions of another person which dictates every answer.


Once we get an consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong, we can move on to who's in cahoots with him.

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Now that we got those two to chill, John, perhaps we can see if there's a consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong.

~Bruno~
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August 02, 2012, 03:39:32 AM
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I think that at this point we can safely move away from the idea that Zhou Tong is some 17-year-old kid. I believe that the only reason funds are trickling back is because Kevin Lim has a lot at stake, and it's his reputation that is at risk, not a made-up avatar named Zhou Tong.

Now, who is going to be the first to disprove that Zhou Tong = Kevin Lim?

~Bruno~


I and the user dishwara already figured this out at page 22 and 23, post #427 and #452.

You, the "we", are more than late.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063040#msg1063040

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Also when i read all his posts, i don't think he is 17 year old person.
He using English language very well & not typing as a normal 17 year old do , like using smileys, acronyms....slang language, meme....
I think he must be at least 25+ years old to type with out using any normal 17 guys use to chat.
His replies shows a professionalism.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063434#msg1063434

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There is a ghost writer following the instructions of another person which dictates every answer.


Once we get an consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong, we can move on to who's in cahoots with him.

~Bruno~




Now that we got those two to chill, John, perhaps we can see if there's a consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong.

~Bruno~


Wow, when did this happen?  What ethnicity is Lim?

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August 02, 2012, 03:46:33 AM
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I think that at this point we can safely move away from the idea that Zhou Tong is some 17-year-old kid. I believe that the only reason funds are trickling back is because Kevin Lim has a lot at stake, and it's his reputation that is at risk, not a made-up avatar named Zhou Tong.

Now, who is going to be the first to disprove that Zhou Tong = Kevin Lim?

~Bruno~


I and the user dishwara already figured this out at page 22 and 23, post #427 and #452.

You, the "we", are more than late.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063040#msg1063040

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Also when i read all his posts, i don't think he is 17 year old person.
He using English language very well & not typing as a normal 17 year old do , like using smileys, acronyms....slang language, meme....
I think he must be at least 25+ years old to type with out using any normal 17 guys use to chat.
His replies shows a professionalism.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063434#msg1063434

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There is a ghost writer following the instructions of another person which dictates every answer.


Once we get an consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong, we can move on to who's in cahoots with him.

~Bruno~




Now that we got those two to chill, John, perhaps we can see if there's a consensus that Kevin Lim = Zhou Tong.

~Bruno~


Wow, when did this happen?  What ethnicity is Lim?

German.
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August 02, 2012, 03:51:48 AM
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Rarity, augustocroppo and mlawrence please continue your debate elsewhere and quit clogging up this thread. I had to split the discussion between Matthew and Chaang-Noi here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97141.0 and it's a PITA to do so.

Looks like you forgot one person. LOL
You got a point there. Bruno, please stop clogging up this thread, and make one of yours. And probably name it 'The Hunt for Zhou Tong - Uncovering the man behind Bitcoinica' or something like that.  Angry

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August 02, 2012, 03:53:37 AM
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Bruno has been thinking about filling Dog the Bounty Hunter's time spot on A&E.  I heard PhantomCircuit is brokering the deal.
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August 02, 2012, 04:04:38 AM
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Rarity, augustocroppo and mlawrence please continue your debate elsewhere and quit clogging up this thread. I had to split the discussion between Matthew and Chaang-Noi here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97141.0 and it's a PITA to do so.

Looks like you forgot one person. LOL
You got a point there. Bruno, please stop clogging up this thread, and make one of yours. And probably name it 'The Hunt for Zhou Tong - Uncovering the man behind Bitcoinica' or something like that.  Angry

So should the title of the thread be changed to: "Anything but possible suspects of the recent Bitcoinica hack"?

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