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1641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is It For The Money Or For The Sport Or A Clear Exploitations on: August 24, 2022, 01:37:42 PM
At that level of fighting, it's all about the money, but obviously they train very hard still and want to win - because that gains them access to future fights and the winner takes a larger amount of earnings home.
I honestly don't think that's true for this match. Even if it's an exhibition match, the least they could do is match players with a similar skill level or so, it wasn't even a matter of training hard, it's like matching someone who trained for 20 years to someone who just picked up working out a week ago. I wouldn't really consider it as anything else other than a simple hype exhibition, wouldn't even call it a match really. To simplify, it's like the odds between a very weak vs a very strong team.
It's about money and they are being paid huge than compared to the money that they will get if they play the match in a fair way and for this, there is no need for the players to train hard but maybe they need to act hard in order for the play to look legit and it won't look like it was being fixed but they fail with that already because if we watch the video, it looks very obvious.

If this was meant to be an exhibition match, what you are saying is not possible but every exhibition match do always has a weird composition of players, like for example lately in boxing. One player is a youtuber without any experience in boxing while the other one is a pro boxer.

Exhibition matches became popular during the peak of pandemic. I noticed it became a thing when boxing matches were limited due to safety contraints and there are only few boxers who are willing to fight because of restrictions and health related reasons as well. The set up was a match against a professional and amateur boxer most of the time and you can really tell that it's already a fixed match. I mean, you could already guess and tell that there's already an agreement made.

I gues exhibition matches are more on money and entertainment only and not really sports because of the set up. The level of strength and knowledge about boxing is evident and the stamina as well. But despite this, there are still people who support and are fond of it and I have nothing against them. I just find exhibition matches not really interesting.
1642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on Psychology & Sociology Perspectives. on: August 24, 2022, 11:39:24 AM
Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.

The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.


We share the same sentiments. Trying to try out your luck through gambling isn't really gonna work out fine everytime. The odds wouldn't be a hundred percent on your favor every single time you make a bet. There are probability in certain game that you would win or lose. Depending on your strategy, the rtp, and luck will be the basis of you either winning or losing. Not just entirely luck unless of course you are playing slots or roulette. But this game has also a greater chancr of winning inclined with the house, so, still, it's already altered. We're still talking about probability.

Gambling just to test your odds and degree of luckiness sounds absurd to me. Because if ever you belong to the poverty line, how would you even afford to do it without breaking your budget? For me, the necessities should be prioritized over a tradition if ever I were be in a culture that would require such, I will do my own ways.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling schools importance on: August 24, 2022, 07:34:54 AM
Like every other games, there are academies to get the training, But I never heard of gambling schools to train the people.

Do you think we need gambling schools to prepare people for gamble?

I don't really think that it's necessary to have this. After all, we can get sufficient knowledge about gambling over the internet or through others experiences and to our own experience as well. We can collaborate our knowledge that we have learned from different subject areas and incorporate it to our gambling habits if ever you are planning to make a bet.

We have different areas we can learn on from the traditional schools and online schools. We can use that to our advantage despite not having to enroll from gambling school that you are pertaining because foremost, if ever that's an additional expense in our part and secondly, that would take up some time.
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How would you prefer your casino reward? on: August 24, 2022, 01:14:06 AM
It'd projably depend on the site. If it's just a slots site then it'd make sense to give users free spins (you can probably pay less to give them more goes at them then too).

If it had other things like live/table games and you wanted to let them gamble on everything then I think cash makes more sense.

I think cash is one of the best choices there is for gamblers because with cash, they can easily withdraw their winning funds without the hassle of going through some sort of exchanger. In addition, they wouldn't be craving for gambling more and more because their winnings is already in cash and they would have to go converting it again to crypto if the gambling platform or website they are using only accepts crypto as deposits.

However, if the gambler is continuously gambling and do not really plan to withdraw any of his winnings I guess this would be an inconvenience to them. Because winning cash prize means another form of transaction for them. Hence, a hassle on their part. I guess, it's really a matter of preference and on what type of gambler they are. Because they would feel different emotions depending on what purpose they are gambling for. They differ in reason: for entertainment or for profit purposes.
1645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 24, 2022, 12:40:24 AM
Big companies like Google, YouTube, Twitch and streamers only care about their profits, so it makes no sense to expect them to be interested in protecting our children from information that can get them into trouble. We as parents should spend more time educating our children and explaining to them the principles by which this or that system works. Even a child can be taught how advertising, promotion and the risks of gambling can work.


And that should not be a big deal that these streaming sites should try to filter the audiences, especially the minor ones.

I'm sure most minors won't be interested in watching those gambling content.

They will just try gambling right away without watching those. They want to feel the experience rather than watch.

I strongly oppose this. You'll never know how each children's mind works. Their curiousity varies in levels. Some are really curious about a particular thing to the point that they will watch whatever that intrigues them. While some are just jumping from one activity to another without considering watching or researching.

Hence, Google, Youtube, and other platforms that cater gambling should be filtering what they are showcasing in general. Although I also believe that this will be hard because of the technology nowadays and because of the children's creativity and resourcefulness.
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 24, 2022, 12:04:33 AM
I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

OP is not relying on his own analysis.

If you missed the part, OP is relying on fixed match information where he didn't know actually if that even came from a legit source. That's the reason why OP wants to consider taking a loan as those bets he already did are all WIN.

It's good that taking a loan is not considered for the meantime and I hope it won't change in case OP will hit several winning bets.

I think it's still a good thing that he didn't take a loan for betting on unverified information that he heard of. Because if ever the information turned out wrong, he would definitely lose all the money he borrowed for in a snap. It's just fortunate that the odds were in his favor before. But if ever something similar happens again, who would have know if the same scenario will happen again, right?

I also do hope that OP won't be dragged down in betting continuously without risk assessment. Because no matter how big the winning prize would be, just one wrong decision could cost him so much. Bet small, win small. Bet big, lose big amount too.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 23, 2022, 05:13:19 AM
That's true streamers are good at generating our interests they master the art of convincing people to play. they are always excited about the project they are streaming whether its a casino or a new game the first time I watched a stream about a play-to-earn project I was convinced to invest and play but unfortunately the project did not take off, it's not really on the streamer it's on the project or about yourself making the right decision, but they are good at influencing people to try what they are promoting or streaming.

If they were able to gather lots of subscribers, we can really say that these streamers are good at entertaining people and doing a great job showing what's on their content. If there are a lot of viewers always on their live stream, that's a sign that they can influence people to watch their content and convince people to do what's on the content without asking for that favor from their viewers.

Actually, being a paid streamer is not really necessary even though these streamers are not supported by the gambling site they are promoting. They just have to maintain their viewing stats and they will earn good money without a partnership from anything.
It would be difficult for those steamers to keep gambling so much without any kind of sponsorship, after all gambling is not like your average video game, in a regular video game you can pretty much get all the content for a small amount of money and after that you do not need to spend any money, but gambling requires the frequent use of money and even if they were very popular they will lose money at a rate that is unsustainable to them, besides if they are that popular I am sure a casino will eventually look for them and sponsor them anyway even if that was not the intention of the streamer in the first place.

Valid point. Sponsorship is essential for streamers that are not really well-off and do not have extra money to be spent in luxurious activities such as gambling. If they are just streaming for the sake of engagement, entertainment, and for the sake of doing new things, they really need to have the fund in order to continuously showcase gambling methods. Of course, despite being streamers, they still have budget to follow on, unless they are super rich.

The same way with other people, streamers must know how to set boundaries despite having engagement and profiting from it because addiction and loss of money could happen to them to. Afterall, there's no some sort of immunity from it but only discipline.
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: POSSIBLE THINGS TO HELP US TO WIN AT CRYPTO CASINOS on: August 23, 2022, 04:06:01 AM
Your advice are so dangerous sir, because a new player which reads you, can think that he can win with your advice, and that isn't real.

Your advice are good, but you should also keep in mind probability theorema, and consider that in long terms you're going to lose all of your money. The best thing is not to be addicted, play for fun, and when you've win

a good amount, withdraw everything and stop.



I agree with this. Despite giving good advices that could make someone's journey in gambling be a little more at ease and trouble-free, we should still also consider the consequences and other possible negative repercussions that come along with playing. Of course, we still need to manage the risk if we want to save money and not overspend.

Since gambling is addicting, continuous playing could play a factor too in developing one. Hence, we must still know when and where to draw boundaries before it's already too late.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 23, 2022, 01:09:41 AM
Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.


Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.


FINLAND
Ykkonen

11:30 AM ET

Jaro vs Ekenas

Asian Total
Over 3 @ 2.14


1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.65



match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/vFo3COwn/#/match-summary
telegram: lastseengoal

Sometimes, we have to take risk in order to have high rewards. However, this is applicable if only the money we are going to risk is really ours. At the very least we have to be responsible of the money that isn't really ours to begin with. In my principle, I wouldn't gamble the money I don't initially own. This is because of the risks gambling possess.

Afterall, not everyday is a good day in gambling. There would be times that you will lose unexpectedly. Maybe that time that you risked, the odds were just on your favor. But how about if the circumstance that happened was the other way around? How would you bounce back? You should think of the repercussions before deciding so that you won't be in the losing end.
1650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is It For The Money Or For The Sport Or A Clear Exploitations on: August 23, 2022, 12:11:12 AM
Boxing is a sport that is enjoyed by the enthusiasts. It is a kind of recreational activity wherein the strength of the boxers are measured through their overall performance. I think people doing boxing are in it for either one of the things you've mentioned or mixed of both. To some people with amazing strength and stamina, boxing is their way to make name and of course, to make money.

Making a reputation in boxing industry is no joke. You will undergo tremendous hardships such as training and the actual fight itself to develop more of your potential. Some people start small and eventually get big. Some initially started because of money, while some are in it because of their passion to fight and showcase their ability.
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 20, 2022, 04:45:39 PM
When it comes to paid advertising of gambling websites thru videos made by streamers, the influence could be case to case basis. If we are talking about the streamer's influence on players encouragement to play in a specific website they are promoting, the rate will vary depending on their reputation, on how famous they are, and how reliable the information they are giving.

On the other hand, if the influence we are talking about is regarding gambling habits, this will depend on the gambler himself. Because despite the streamer's effort to influence and educate, we still have the final say on the decisions and actions that we will make most especially on our gambling habits and methods.
1652  Economy / Economics / Re: You don't earn money only from others, but also when you avoid spending your own on: August 20, 2022, 01:20:21 PM
It depends, I guess.

I mean if you don't have any problem financially, then I don't see anything bad on buying things you wanted since you are working to get those things as one of your dreams way back then when you don't have that much money to get the things you wanted. But if your salary is just enough to survive every day, then without money management, that's really a serious problem. Only spend money if you have a lot of extras, but not too often.

It's not bad to spoiled yourself when you worked hard but it's bad if you don't have any limitations.
1653  Other / Archival / Re: Entrepreneurship or Office job? on: August 20, 2022, 11:42:34 AM
Entrepreneurship has its own disadvantages and advantages, same as to office job. The only difference is that you have your own freedom in entrepreneurship that you can't have in a office job. Entrepreneurship gives you freedom on everything, you decide your own income and has no limits on your profits unlike in office job which your salary is fixed on a certain range, while you exhaust yourself and drain your emotional and mental health if you're working in a toxic workplace.
1654  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Average crypto futures trader monthly salary is 9000$-30,000$ on: August 19, 2022, 12:48:35 PM
Bullshit, Futures trading in crypto is a gamble so no one can get a fixed salary per month unless he is doing inside trading because crypto market is very volatile and easy to manipulate. You need to become the luckiest person on earth to maintain fixed income per month of futures trading.

Stop promoting futures trading because it can destroy life of a newbie trader since exchange is offering an insane leverage that is very dangerous to newbie greedy traders.

I agree.

Futures trading is not gonna give you a fixed salary, that's why you never know what you're income per month. Sometimes it is big, sometimes it is small, sometimes none at all. Trading is not like the typical jobs we have in the real world that has a fixed salary per month, but at least you're sure that you're gonna receive it if you're gonna work everyday.

Also, in order to become an average trader, I think you need 2-3 years of continuous learning about trading (correct me if I'm wrong).
1655  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I am losing money because take profit orders are not working. on: August 19, 2022, 12:10:41 PM
Hello I was scalping and I had a take profit order in my exchange to sell bitcoin when it reached 24448. And today at 14.13 tradingview was telling me that bitcoin was 24450..but the take profit operation was not performed in my platform..what could be the reason?

Maybe your internet connection is bad? or your exchange platform has different pricing in cryptocurrency. I'm also confused, I mean you could manually do that if you were scalping, scalping only uses small timeframe in trading, so why use a automatic take profit feature? If you are scalping, I suggest only use 1 or 2 coins only, for you to monitor it easily and do the take profit manually instead.
1656  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: An easy way to overcome inflation on: August 19, 2022, 11:23:56 AM
One contribution on this huge inflation rate was due to the effect of the pandemic. It has resulted to print a lot of new money in the circulation and that's why we've got the high inflation rate.

Plus, the effects of war also is contributing a lot.

Every single way of defeating inflation will depend on how the governments going to take actions. And as an individual, we also have way of defeating it based on how we deal with it.

That's the worst thing, most of the Government doesn't have any plan on how to counter inflation, they are too busy stealing the money of people while watching them suffer on poverty, that's the reality of most government around the world, lucky if you're in a country that has a good governance. Inflation could be prevented, but if the cause of inflation is the lack of action of the government, then nothing would happen, it will just become worst every single day.
1657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The characteristics of people who are addicted to online gambling on: August 19, 2022, 10:45:25 AM
I still don't know why many persons think that gambling has a revert effects on us especially when it comes religion. They think that as a gambler, you are a bad person and you have the trait of involving in a bad art which had been the way the society sees gamblers. We gamble to earn and many persons had turned to gambling for a better way to earn without having to work or depends on the government to provide basic amenities. The risk is you either win or lose which had made it difficult for us to continually decide the kind of winning we want.
Do you want to know why many think that a gambler is bad person? because many think that gambling is tantamount to wasting money you have earned by working especially when the person becomes addicted will justify any means to be able to gamble but if you can gamble with good self-control then it will not be a problem but unfortunately, a lot who can't be like that, gambling to earn is not easy and not everything can be like that.

That's traditional mindset imo, I do not think modern people now still think that gambler is bad berson. I cant deny the fact that there are still many people who think like that especially in small villages like where I live now. Not only people think that gambler is bad person, but the government consider gambler as criminal. This is why gambler gets very bad image by people who live in a country where gambling is considered as illegal activity or as a one type of crime. 

I think the term "bad" is suited for those addicted gamblers, because most of them are irresponsible. They are neglecting their duties as a certain individual just to make themselves happy in a way they are wasting their money uncontrollably. Add the fact that not all of them are playing gambling legally, some of them are illegal, like casinos who doesn't have licenses or just some traditional gambling games.
1658  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mastering the market movement is what aid profits and not the price. on: August 18, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Market movement is also the price movement, the market won't move if it doesn't have any assets on it, like stocks and cryptocurrency. The technical analysis depends on the chart prices, and the current trend, most of the newbies contradict the market trend that's why they always lose trades. Professional traders know what to do whatever the market situation is, that's why if you started trading, you must continue to grow even though you lost a lot of money already.

Losing in trading is normal, you need a lot of courage and dedication to hone your skills to make profits.
1659  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Longterm Price Target on: August 18, 2022, 12:18:54 PM
It's very hard to predict such thing, all of the information of how much Bitcoin would cost this year or after 5-10 years etc. are just mere speculations. My opinion on this matter is that let's just support Bitcoin and continue to use it until it hit its peak (highest price), because no matter how much effort we put in prediction, Bitcoin's price will be its price and we are all going to be benefited because of our patient in waiting for that moment.

1660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Countries have banned Bitcoin; Do you believe is because of criminal activities on: August 17, 2022, 05:27:21 AM
There are countries that are not really into bitcoin because their leaders are not fond of it, have the wrong impression and understanding of it, and are scared of it. I think the reason why there are still countries which are against in adopting bitcoin are the aforementioned individually, and perhaps mix of it.

Some people even the most educated ones are even unaware or only have a little knowledge about bitcoin. They lack understanding of it which makes bitcoin scary to their perspective. And some are just downright greedy or do not really want it because of the potential it holds. Since bitcoin is a decentralized asset, givernment have little to no control over it. In terms of taxation, they don't get to tax it directly, but only in exchanges transactions. Which is why they do not really agree with legalization of bitcoin. Money matters and perhaps security reasons as well. Because other crypto activities are already infiltrated of schemes and scammers which the government officials are wary about.
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