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1541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🤯 Trust Dice | sorry but we reduced your winnings by 90% but it’s okay 👌 on: September 28, 2022, 12:36:22 AM
I remember seeing similar cases on other casinos where they'd have a limit on how much you can get out of their bonus.

Even if the bonus they're giving out doesn't seem to be fair, there's nothing we could do against the terms and conditions of their bonuses since it's their casino they can also update it at any time. If you're hoping for a better bonus then it's best to not take the current bonuses they offer and hope the other players do the same so they'd get the message and make some improvements.

Most casinos do really set limit on how much you can get on their bonus because after all, it is just a type of promotion to gauge the players into playing and depositing. They still have to profit out of it since they are also a business trying to thrive and generate income as well. It is not really a secret that these casinos gradually lower the RTP once the players gets to play and win consecutively. I believe this is also included in their terms of service so you must really read and digest all of their policies before proceeding to avoid trouble. Otherwise, you will really experience inconvenience because you don't know some of their rules.

If the casino didn't put that on their TOS, then you can raise a concern regarding the sudden change/s made into your account. However, it is also known that some casinos change TOS without further notice, so it will be your obligation to check if they have made some changes on their terms once in a while. Some send alert messages while some don't so you have to rely on your own if that is the scenario.
1542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Reputation on: September 27, 2022, 08:51:38 AM
I don’t think their is any way you can explain to people that you are a responsible gambler, most of them won’t want to listen to you, and I don’t think you should start telling everybody your story that you are a responsible gambler, the best thing you can do is just to leave them Anything anybody says about you, just over look it and move one, nobody is a saint in this life. In my country if people notice that you are a gambler they believe you are no more responsible, which is very wrong, I don’t see anything wrong in gambling, the only thing I can say is bad is been addicted to gambling, but if you are not addicted then I don’t see anything wrong in gambling but people won’t want to listen.

The best thing that you can do to let them know and believe that you are a responsible gambler is by practicing it instead of saying it or rubbing it to their face. No one will really believe if you'll just say it. You should prove it to them by actions and not by words. Although it's not really your responsibility to prove yourself and on how responsible you are. But if you want to, through actions would be better because they can see the benefits of gambling and would not just focus on its repercussions.

There is really a stigma in gambling. Once people knew that you are a gambler, they will view you in another perspective such as being irresponsible, addict, or even a lazy fella. We can't really blame them because that's how the reputation of gambling in the mainstream media is. Since most people don't understand the need of other people to gamble, they just view them as lazy individuals and irresponsible ones because instead of focusing on what they deem important, they focus more in gambling. Some can't grasp the idea that we have different priorities which make them easily conclude such.
1543  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past on: September 27, 2022, 03:03:20 AM

Depends on self control but usually people would really be ending up on losing those winnings back on the casino because most of the time you would really be thinking off that you might able to win up more if you

do decide to play back which is really a very common impression or mindset whenever you do make some winnings.Speaking about pulling off your funds on a gambling after a huge win is just common sense.

You cant just leave it there once you do able to hit something but rather you would immediately hurry up yourself on making withdrawals unless if you do decide to play more.
We do always have that kind of feeling of less secure in speaking of any platforms security and mind off about possible hacking or exploits.
you are very right - that self control in gambling is very important
I just read in another forum that that a person won a lot of money and later he lost all his money - that happened due to loss of self control

Self-control is really important. Players should know this beforehand to avoid this kind of conflict in the future.

Since gambling is addicting and could really take much of your time and money without you noticing, it is important to set limitations and boundaries. Having the right mindset and practicing it could really save yourself from trouble and inconvenience. If you are a responsible person that knows where to draw the line and has the sense of responsibility whenever you do something, then this won't be a problem since you can move with discipline in innate manner.

However, if you are self-aware that you don't possess such responsible attitude and behavior, then you must start to practice and incorporate it to your everyday lives to get used to it. Otherwise, if you start gambling with such attitude, it could potentially cost you a lot particularly targeting your behavior and habits when it comes to financial aspect and the way you perceive things.

Knowing when to stop and when to continue betting could make a big difference. If you know how to assess and manage risks, the lesser probability of you falling victim into losing almost everything you've got like the story you could read all over the forum.
1544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: About Online casino/gambling projects on: September 27, 2022, 02:28:45 AM
I am starting to have this crazy interest in crypto gambling projects like online casinos and stuff but I want to ask, this utility have been around for years but is there any old project that live this long and still functions?

Also what are the things that kills such project because even one or two survived for long I don't see many alive till now, they fail easily or turn scam later.

I have seen some casino in this forum that has been functioning right way back in 2013 and 2014 that is still functioning to date and we have some that were lunch this year and just lasted for a couple of months. There are so many reasons that contribute to the longevity of casinos been live for long such as keeping a good reputation and not scamming players, paying instantly when users request withdrawals, doing promotions and marketing to keep players in check, free slots and bonuses and many more. What kills casino projects faster than anything others are denying users withdrawals and nothing having enough funds to pay players are the quickest way your company will die, we have seen cases like that here where such casinos end up scamming users and locking their accounts for nothing. If you don't have enough resources to start a casino, don't open one.

I agree with this. There are many casinos that has been established for five years and more already that has been standing strong and operating continuously up until this date. The reason why these casinos are still operating despite many arising competitors are already mentioned, but let me mention some that matter to me such as having a good reputation, maintaining their mission and vision prior to their peak of business, staying true and transparent with their clients, attending to their clients issues and concerns, and conducting up to date campaigns and promotions to keep their casino relevant and in par with the new and existing ones.

These are the things which can keep them going and being patronized by the gamblers. Of course, how they handle their business and how they present it to the players matter the most. If they satisfy or even exceed the expectations of their players, then it is considered to be guaranteed that the players will be loyal to them and might even bring new players in. Otherwise, they will slowly crumble and be like other businesses that didn't thrive because of lack of good management.

1545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue on: September 27, 2022, 01:54:06 AM
I'm not sure about the terms and conditions of the Twitch. Based on that it is quite an easy thing for the Twitch team to stop users from creating and broadcasting their contents. For now gambling is getting popular around and Twitch got importance for its scheduled streaming and different giveaways. As one of the user stated, people will move towards other forms of streaming opportunities.

I think everything depends on the TOS of Twitch, like you mentioned. If they prohibit any form of solicitation whether express or implied, then they can rule that this Twitch streamer violated their TOS. Given the widespread of online gambling among the youth, I do expect that Twitch will soon amend their TOS or implement it more strictly this time.

It is really a fine line between a violation or a loophole. I hope that Twitch creates or releases a statement from prohibiting "express" forms of gambling since they cannot totally remove and prohibit crate unboxing from their platform.

This matter will highly depend on what kind of rules and policies does Twitch have on their platform. If they impose strictly that no solicitation should be done in their platforms by the streamers to avoid abuse and scamming, then it is clear as day that Sliker violated their TOS and therefore deserves a punishment so that the others won't follow his steps. However, it isn't outright stated that Twitch is against such act, so perhaps that's the reason why there are still streamers that continuously to do such act.

Since like you said, their TOS isn't clearly implementing what needs to be done, they somehow play a part and have a shortcoming on this issue. Hopefully, they will implement strictly their policies and make those people who won't abide to be accountable to their actions.
1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When betting becomes to high on: September 27, 2022, 01:14:06 AM
Have you ever had an experience betting in which you knew that you were going over the limits of you finances and still continued? I have one playing a game, it was absorbing plenty of my time and despite me knowing it, I was kind of hooked on it. It was not a financial problem, but left me wondering how easy is to actually fall into a bad habit and how difficult is to break it.
Very difficult to find people who do not have such experience in betting. Everyone has faced this kind of situation at one time more or less. I have also seen gamblers who lose their gambling money as soon as they make a deposit. Their gambling style is very strange they are participating multiple game in one time and their gambling continues until they run out of money and when the gambling ends they suffer from regret.

This makes sense. Most people who entered gambling really did experience the good and bad sides of it. Of course, there would be days that they won't constantly win which means a loss of fund on their end. There will be several times they will experience the ups and downs of gambling and that's totally normal because that's the reality. They can't always have it all. We can't always make the odds side on our favor because everything comes with risk the moment we try something.

The rate percentage of losses and winnings now just depends on their gambling style and strategy and to what kind of gambler they are. If they are impulsive and do not really practice certain techniques, they will most likely suffer losses most frequently. If they are calculated and strategic gambler, there will be a higher chance that they will win because they minimize the margin or error. If they would be lucky, the odds will be with them which could further increase the probability of their wins. Overall, this matter lies on how responsible the gambler is on betting and risking what he have.
1547  Economy / Economics / Re: Will crypto jobs make government jobs irrelevant in the near future? on: September 24, 2022, 02:51:52 PM
I don't think so.

Maybe the government will give employees a choice on what kind of salary they are going to receive every payday, whether it's cryptocurrency or fiat. I still can't see that fiat won't exist in the future, because it's more convenient if we have both, cryptocurrency and fiat. I wouldn't waste a $3 transaction fee just to buy a candy.
1548  Economy / Economics / Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"? on: September 24, 2022, 08:29:39 AM
Success is a very very hard to explain, I mean it could vary depends each person. For me, success is something that I wanted that takes a lot of time for me to achieve. However, the very best success I could and anyone could have is contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.
1549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Things to keep in mind before accumulation of Bitcoin on: September 24, 2022, 06:59:53 AM
3: Do not freak out:

One of the biggest benefit of long term investment is you don’t have to check market again and again. Thus you will face no tension. But to do that you have to build patience in yourself. Which you can do by not becoming a prey of FOMO (Fear of Missing Out).
I'm sure this will be difficult for most new investors especially for those who are new to investing. Panic is normal when the price drops 10%-15% in less than 24 hours, but when a trader or investor ignores these fluctuations and chooses to hold on and believe in another potential in the future then they have become a strong hand.

Don't panic, it's much easier said than realized in day-to-day or short-term trading practice. I agree that if one can avoid panicking when the price drops [in particular bitcoin] then they will have no regrets in the long run if the bounce occurs in a relatively quick timeframe.

OP, by the way you could also consider moving this thread to a trading discussion board instead of a bitcoin discussion board.

I agree.

I have a lot of friends who have a wrong understanding about Bitcoin. They always thought that once they invest in it, it will always give them profits, so the ending is that they are always disappointed and losing hope already. Most of the people who invested in Bitcoin because of the hype of cryptocurrency since the pandemic started has this kind of mindset, they are the panic sellers, and they are the ones that thought they could earn a lot of money like other crypto enthusiast by just simply investing their fiat on a volatile cryptocurrency.
1550  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Need some advice on: September 23, 2022, 01:39:30 PM
I need some thoughts about this group I've joined a week a go. They are giving free signals for trading and I actually start earning since day 1. Are there really group like this? or Am I on the right trading group. We trade in Batex anf U-koala.

If you're earning with their free signals then it's good, but the question would be "for how long?". Maybe they are just making you thirsty about making profits and then they will stop giving you free signals, guess what's next, of course they are going to ask you a membership fee for you to continue having their "free" signals.
1551  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is happening with Crypto market on: September 23, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Nothing is happening in crypto that hasn't happened before, 2018 was worst than this. There's always room for a retest, there's bear and bull season. Everything has its season, we just got to be wise about it all.

Exactly, I think the people who experience bear market for the first time are the ones who are overthinking right now, if they truly made a right decision on investing their money in Bitcoin, especially if they bought at $50,000 down to $40,000. Bearish market is just about the market giving red candles all of the time, others are just making it complicated to create FUDs to have a chance to buy more once it dips because of panic sellers.
1552  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading = Analysis - (Instinct + Emotions) on: September 23, 2022, 07:49:49 AM
Emotions plays a big part on us, as a person, that's why there's a saying that once you know how to control your emotion, you'll be dangerous, which is true. Decision making is very important in trading, after you do all the fundamentals to make sure your trade is going to be profitable, and emotion is still the head of it. If you messed up because you're frustrated and stressed because of your past bad trades, therefore the next trade will surely messed up as well.
1553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much money do you leave in crypto casino? on: September 23, 2022, 12:44:43 AM
Well, I will not use my favorite casino as a wallet, if that is what you are asking...  Grin

It will be very risky for people to use casinos as wallets, because some casino operators and support staff are very trigger happy ..and they will block accounts for little or no reason at all. When this happens, you as a owner of those coins, will not have access to those coins.

The other things is.... if you store all your coins on the casino, then you will be tempted to gamble with it. My advice... keep most of your coins on hardware wallets and determine a gambling budget for every casino that you use... and only deposit those coins onto those casinos.  Wink

I agree with this. It's really risky if you will entrust your funds in an online casino. Treating it as your another platform to store your funds is a big no-no because it like what you have said, it might be suspended or banned for no reason if ever they will decide to conduct a mass suspension or banning of account that they deem to be doing unusual activities even there's no sufficient proof for it.

Although it seldom happens, still, it's better to be safe than to be sorry. Just leave a portion of your fund intended for gambling in your preferred casino and then withdraw the rest and put it in your hardware wallet to guarantee your assets status. It could also help you prevent impulsive gambling habits because you just have the proper budget allocation and not all of your funds stored in that crypto casino you are playing with. You can make use of that in other things and you will not be indulged in gambling unconsciously. So for me, it's a good situation you can benefit if you practice this.
1554  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Microstrategy purchased again 301BTC. Is this a sign? on: September 22, 2022, 02:53:47 PM
They always buy bitcoin every time it dips, and that's not even guarantee that the Bitcoin's price will go deeper, maybe it is the other way around, it'll pump but not an indicator of a continuous bull market. The biggest advice is that always trade with precautions, don't get easily baited by FUDs and just sell your coins because of having a panic.

Here's their purchase history.
1555  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning From Trading Without Any Professional Knowledge on: September 22, 2022, 07:03:26 AM
I do want to know if it's possible for a starter to gainfully earn from Crypto trading without having to go through a professional training.

It's possible, depending on how much precautions you'll take before making any trades. Without doing so, I think you'll experience more losses than winning in trading if you do not posses enough knowledge even as a beginner, that's the truth. You need a foundation to lean on in order to achieve the goal you wanted. Trading is not easy for those who wants to get rich overnight or even in just a short period of time, but if you do have the patient to do so, eventually you'll get in the level where you could make profits easily.
1556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Rise of Mobile Gambling Is Leaving People Ruined and Unable to Quit on: September 20, 2022, 05:03:52 AM
online gambling are threading gambling everywhere but the thing is that nobody is trying to play a manual gambling this present time, in the most of the countries they playing gambling seriously and i believe that gambling now is being Best online and no country who is lover of gambling that has not turn up in online gambling.

That is what makes online gambling the main topic that each country must pay attention to. There are fewer gamblers in offline gambling and switching to online will make access easier. When the government is negligent, then I believe that underage youth will be trapped in gambling from an early age. It doesn't matter if we are adults and we take responsibility for the risks we make. but for children who are stuck in games that resemble gambling, it will make them curious about gambling moments, and their parents need to take responsibility from what they are doing.

The regulation and strict imposition of rules and policies should really be the priority of the government together with the casino owners. This is to ensure that the gambling space will not be infiltrated by the underaged who aren't allowed to be involved in gambling in the first place. A campaign for awareness about gambling's repercussion could be one of the ways to help spread information about the consequences of gambling to the youth.

KYC could be an option too by the casinos which I believe most casinos are already doing this. However, this has its cons on the side of the player because some do not really like undergoing KYC to maintain anonymity and to maintain confidentiality. Although it has been slowly being asked in some sites now so that they can filter those underaged trying to make an account to have an access in betting. While it could be helpful to narrow down those who are accessing the site, the children are now becoming more on more knowledgeable about bypassing and making various ways just to access some platforms. So this will still boil down to becoming disciplined and aware of a person, whatever the age may be. There will just be helping factors to let the youth avoid the possible negative effects of gambling.
1557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casinos vs money laundering. on: September 20, 2022, 03:09:03 AM
Laundering and scam or phishing would be two different things.  It can take a decade to provide an otherwise legitimate operation is connected to laundering or some kind of illegal activity.  Its not really something that can be pinned on gambling because it is a cash intensive activity but its not exclusively so, there are many different industries that might process most of their cash flow in plain currency.    The simpliest example I can remember hearing of was an account manager in local government, they claimed cashback from normal purchases from a supermarket and then gambled that side avenue of cash as it wasnt immediately apparent.  Its not a very elaborate scheme, its just down to the people with oversight like accountants involved to keep track of.

These three are indeed different things. Money laundering is one of the many issues that the government loathes because this is where corruption stems. Most financial platforms really avoid this and make sure to do necessary actions to prevent this from happening such as asking the clients or players to undergo KYC to verify their identity and to check their source of income as well. This is necessary on the end of the casino so that they could countercheck the deposited amounts and if those amounts are justifiable with the declared source of income of the client.

One of the possible ways people can try to put their funds to is through crypto, which is why there are sentiments that maybe crypto casinos has been the safe haven of those laundering money, avoiding taxes, and those that came from illegal source. If the casinos are doing everything they can to prevent AMLA, then they have nothing to be worried about. The only thing that has been pinpointing in this issue is that if some casinos tolerate such illegal activity which can cost them (the casino) their reputation and ability to operate as well.
1558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bonus Abuse: Who is to Blame? on: September 20, 2022, 02:35:06 AM
~snip~
It actually depends on the rules of the contest. If the rules stated "no user can win double prizes", it is clearly an abuse to claim 2 prizes. But if no statement limiting the opportunity to win for each user/participant, I don't think claiming 2 prizes is abuse. But to be fair, commonly in every contest, the winning opportunity of each participant should be limited. Regarding the newbies, sometimes they don't read the rules carefully or know them clearly.

Of course in the end it depends on the rules of the contest. But many people will just simply ignore rules and just try to maximize their winnings, no matter what.

That's why the checks must be done by the casino, as you can't simply assume people will follow the rules or even act morally. It's all about money for a lot of people so the casino must be robust against abuse, because it will happen.

Typical cases of this is sign up bonuses and things like that, where one person uses multiple accounts to get multiple bonuses. If the casino makes that possible, it will happen.

Rules exist to be followed by the players. It should be automatically assumed that once you know the rules and policies of the platform you are using, you will avoid doing unusual or restricted activities to avoid the repercussions. However, most players don't really abide the policies, most especially if they see an opportunity to profit from it. Hence, abuses happen such as bonus abuse because the people act on their needs instead of doing what is right and just.

I agree with you that not everyone will choose to act morally, most especially when it comes to money. People like to find ways on how to generate more income. People love those hacks and tips they can utilize on their advantage. I, myself, take every opportunity that comes along my way as long as it isn't illegal, but not everyone thinks like that. So it is still the casino's responsibility to tighten their security and make a regular checking and maintenance so that there won't be glitches to be abused by others. If they want to profit and do not want to get tricked, they should invest in security of their system.
1559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Choices: Gamble or Help the poor ? on: September 20, 2022, 02:02:38 AM
In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?


I don't understand what part of that situation will help us understand the psychology of gamblers.

I always lend a hand to those who are in need. No need for me to sacrifice my gambling activity as I can do that at the same time. Close people around me know me well and how I assist them with financial problems. What's more, if it's about charity.

Does stopping for 1-month of gambling will change everything?

"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.”

That's right because we don't have any obligation to anyone since we have freedom what we like to do. And helping anyone is not mandatory. Maybe its good for anyone to stop having this mindset because it will just promote laziness since for sure people who are lazy will just rely on people who give them money. So those gamblers will just extend there helping hand to those people then the result may turn worse.

Helping other people is an act of kindness and it is done wholeheartedly. It is no way an obligation because anything you've done against your will and to your conscience is not a form of help anymore. It isn't compulsory or mandatory, rather it is an act of service given even to those people who don't deserve it, but need it. Gamblers do not have responsibility over other people's need because they have their set of needs to fulfill too. We don't know for sure what kind of gambler they are. Whether if they are gambling for entertainment or for profit so we are not in the position to tell them and dictate them what to do such as helping others. Because they might need help too and they aren't just asking.

You see, we have different approach in helping and we have different levels of empathy. To some people, helping in kind is what they preferred the most, while others prefer to help via monetary value. Whatever it is, we must only give what we can willingly to avoid conflicts and of course, so that you won't feel any burden or heavy feeling.
1560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: September 20, 2022, 01:27:22 AM

We cannot really blame them because having a fight with Canelo will also mean that your pockets will balloon because of the revenue that the fight can generate.
More on the money side, Canelo is a magnet when in terms of viewers. like what you have said, fighting Canelo will ensure you with a huge amount of money inside your pocket, no doubt about the very reason why promoters really love brining him in the ring.

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Also, because of that fact, Canelo is already viewed as a trophy that they'd risk to get because defeating Canelo will indeed lift their names but unfortunately, defeating Canelo is hard to do and only a handful of boxers managed to do it.

After Bivol beats Canelo, his name now is on the top, simply agree with that trophy thing, a big exposure for Bivol after winning.

Indeed! They won't be showcasing Canelo if his presence in the ring won't fill the promoter's pockets, he's been one of the few favorites because giving him a fight also meant that the organizers and promoters will have millions of dollars, guaranteed! Canelo probably knew that fact and surely he loved it.

Yes, as I have said, Canelo winning against GGG proved his greatness again, so even Eubanks who is campaigning at 160 is calling Canelo now, or Benavidez, who also wanted the fight and says that Canelo is avoiding him. And then you will hear noises saying that Benavidez has a fighting chance because he is younger than Canelo, but we will see. No one has really put a dent on Canelo's chin, even Bivol at 175 lbs can't crack Canelo's chin. So it will be very hard from anyone in the 168 lbs to break Canelo at this point. He is still in his prime, so the best move for him is Bivol, he just need to win his fight against Ramirez to set it up next year for his biggest payday.
I think I don't have the same expression because I already expected that Canelo will win the fight, I mean, he have the most advantages than Golovkin. Surely he will do everything to avoid getting defeated twice in a row especially this time that his foe is already on the verge of his retirement.

Well, those stated names above can try their luck in going against the current Canelo Alvarez but I don't think there's any boxer that can defeat him for now in his most comfortable division.

I really do think so too that Canelo has the higher chance to win against Golokovin in this third match. Canelo has showcased his talent and skills numerous times already and I'm sure he will exceed the performance he already has given before to get this win and to of course, get the title, the prize, and bring honor to his loved ones especially his fans.

The odds of Canelo winning this fight is significantly higher than that of Golokovin's. Although for sure this won't be an easy fight to Canelo Alvarez since certainly, Golokovin will make sure to prepare for this to win as well. Perhaps a unanimous decision will be made for this game and not really a knockout because both fighters are good and skilled enough, in par with each other's strengths and power. Let's just see whether who among the two will bring home the bacon. But I am for Canelo in this game and I do hope Bivol will win his respective fight so that the looked forward rematch of them will happen.
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