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January 29, 2023, 07:48:53 PM
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The Lakers would've won that game. Referees did mess it up again.
- A late whistle at the final seconds of the 4th quarter. Shot counted plus a free throw to tie the game.
- A no-call on the drive by James where in fact, there is a foul because the hand has been hit while he shot the ball.
I'm a bit upset with that calls that I didn't watch the overtime already. The Lakers would've won that game if the referees called it right.

Anyway, forget that sh*t and I'll be focusing on the scoring record. In his 5 games, James averaged 33.4 PPG so if we will just base on that number, he might broke the record in 3-4 games so most probably he will break it against the Pacers or the Pelicans or even the Thunder if he will score lower.
Yeah, It seems that the referee has a hand on the Boston win here. The NBA should review the officiating here because clearly, they had said that they don't want the referee involved, but that foul on Bev and the non call on Lebron's drive could have given the Lakers the win but the referee messed it up big time.

I'm no Laker fan but this has to be look at as I have said.

Lakers in their last couple of games has been in the short end of the bad call, just saying.
If it was a game where it matter for them, I would be upset too. I would always love to see Lakers in playoffs, they are royalty in NBA so seeing them is always good. But they are 13th in the west right now, there is no way they are going to playoffs, not even play-in tournament to be fair, they are going to lose and they will have to accept that and move on.

They could have won this game, and it wouldn't have mattered for the end of the season, they really need like a big big win streak if they want to be in playoffs and I do not see that happening. Good for Lebron though, dude is about the be the person with the most points, that's not an easy feat, that's actually quite a big achievement considering he is the type of guy that passes a lot too.

They just got AD back and they are a couple games out of the playin what are you talking about?  I'm not pro Lakers but to say there is no way they would even make the playing is just straight wrong.  It's games like this when you win that propel your team, or on the flip side side track you.  Every game is important when playoff seedings are games apart at the end of the year.  This game counts just as much as a game at the end of the year.

To be honest they are just 3 games out of 5th place in the west that's how close every team is right now in the west.

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January 29, 2023, 10:14:40 PM
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They just got AD back and they are a couple games out of the playin what are you talking about?  I'm not pro Lakers but to say there is no way they would even make the playing is just straight wrong.  It's games like this when you win that propel your team, or on the flip side side track you.  Every game is important when playoff seedings are games apart at the end of the year.  This game counts just as much as a game at the end of the year.

To be honest they are just 3 games out of 5th place in the west that's how close every team is right now in the west.
Yeah, I would not rush it too, dude just came back and he needs to get his rhythm back same with Brandon Ingram of the New Orleans Pelicans who had been on and off the court. Injuries are not something to mess with, they need that fire lit back again and it doesn't come out 1-3 games, worse, 5 games.
But we know AD once the focus of him returned he could score 30-50 points and that's when we could say he is back with an expectation of a winning streak for the Lakers team.
I would not even worry about the seeding, the battle is so close from the top 3-13. Anytime another team could be on the playoff seed or there's always a chance to win the play in tournament.

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January 29, 2023, 10:37:29 PM
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It seems Pelicans ran out of fuel lately as they have 5 defeats in a row. They also don't have enough points to have playoffs locked in so they should make a mega effort next game against Bucks and try to win that game because defeats bring more defeats and they don't need a spiral of defeats.


This losing streak makes them vulnerable to being dropped off in the NBA playoffs and they really need to take some adjustments seriously because they are one of the teams to be expected to make the western conference a hard battle to get to the NBA finals but it seems they need to make things right first before dreaming to get their revenge against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs. If they don't improve their ranks these upcoming days, then that's all for them and they're just one of those teams who cannot hold their spots despite how they win every single game in the past months.

Well, their two best players have been injured. I think it was amazing they were winning games at all without them. Once Zion and Ingram are back healthy and get some time on the floor together I’m sure they’ll bounce back. Hopefully in time to save them for the playoffs.

How about that foul on LeBron last night that cost the Lakers the game because of a no call? Crazy…

Yeah, that no call and then they call a foul on the other end? It looks like the referee is against the Lakers recently with a lot of no and controversial calls against them. They could have won that game in my opinion.

That was not the first time the referees did not call a foul on a crucial play in the last seconds this season for the Lakers. This was actually the 4th one to be precise. But, this one for Boston, it seems like the referees are deliberately not calling that obvious foul. There was one referee who was literally standing 3ft away from the layup LeBron made, plus the loud slap sound that's even clearly heard in the camera. Felt bad for LeBron how he want that game so bad.

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January 29, 2023, 10:39:54 PM
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The Possibility is always there and by the thing, on how Lebron James is playing right now he is like at his prime I think this is because of his goal, he is really eager in getting that and right now he is 158 points away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar's All-time NBA points leader, and I think this is motivating Lebron James to do what he can in getting that record, and I think for Lakers in getting Bronny James I think this will keep Lebron James in getting motivated and giving his son a championship ring, I think what Lebron James needed right now is just motivation and the Lakers will give it to him,
Well, I don't know if LeBron James is in his prime, but I have no doubt that he is living a great moment in his life, because he is going through several important moments, for example, his possible retirement (I believe that maybe in 3 or 5 years he may retire, this is not real, just my assumption), LJ is winning several records, he is also having a not very good time in the Lakers (although he is scoring in several games), and also I have no doubt that he is analyzing and preparing (or at least helping) Bronny to enter the NBA, depending on the situation I have no doubt that LJ will also intend to do everything to get Bryce into the NBA in the future (which in my opinion has had a great evolution recently).

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January 29, 2023, 11:13:13 PM
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And what others have thought:



https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.

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January 29, 2023, 11:24:32 PM
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And what others have thought:



https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.

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They just got AD back and they are a couple games out of the playin what are you talking about?  I'm not pro Lakers but to say there is no way they would even make the playing is just straight wrong.  It's games like this when you win that propel your team, or on the flip side side track you.  Every game is important when playoff seedings are games apart at the end of the year.  This game counts just as much as a game at the end of the year.

To be honest they are just 3 games out of 5th place in the west that's how close every team is right now in the west.
Yeah, I would not rush it too, dude just came back and he needs to get his rhythm back same with Brandon Ingram of the New Orleans Pelicans who had been on and off the court. Injuries are not something to mess with, they need that fire lit back again and it doesn't come out 1-3 games, worse, 5 games.
But we know AD once the focus of him returned he could score 30-50 points and that's when we could say he is back with an expectation of a winning streak for the Lakers team.
I would not even worry about the seeding, the battle is so close from the top 3-13. Anytime another team could be on the playoff seed or there's always a chance to win the play in tournament.

That is true. AD has been away from the game for a few months, and it will take a few games to take away the rust from his play and get the groove back. And there is an adjustment period with their new acquisition as well, Rui Hachimura.

The Possibility is always there and by the thing, on how Lebron James is playing right now he is like at his prime I think this is because of his goal, he is really eager in getting that and right now he is 158 points away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar's All-time NBA points leader, and I think this is motivating Lebron James to do what he can in getting that record, and I think for Lakers in getting Bronny James I think this will keep Lebron James in getting motivated and giving his son a championship ring, I think what Lebron James needed right now is just motivation and the Lakers will give it to him,
Well, I don't know if LeBron James is in his prime, but I have no doubt that he is living a great moment in his life, because he is going through several important moments, for example, his possible retirement (I believe that maybe in 3 or 5 years he may retire, this is not real, just my assumption), LJ is winning several records, he is also having a not very good time in the Lakers (although he is scoring in several games), and also I have no doubt that he is analyzing and preparing (or at least helping) Bronny to enter the NBA, depending on the situation I have no doubt that LJ will also intend to do everything to get Bryce into the NBA in the future (which in my opinion has had a great evolution recently).


He is not in his prime, but he is surely playing too well for a player his age. Thanks to his incredibly strong body and the way he maintains it, he was able to achieve this feat. Hopefully, his sons will be able to come close to Lebron's achievement. But history is against them. The more successful the father in NBA, the less successful are the second generation players. Hopefully, it is not the same with Bronny or Bryce.
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He is not in his prime, but he is surely playing too well for a player his age. Thanks to his incredibly strong body and the way he maintains it, he was able to achieve this feat. Hopefully, his sons will be able to come close to Lebron's achievement. But history is against them. The more successful the father in NBA, the less successful are the second generation players. Hopefully, it is not the same with Bronny or Bryce.
He has invested in his health and that's paying off now and even if he's aged, he's still one of the assets of the Lakers now. Going with Monday's game for the Lakers. I just saw the news lately that Lebron and AD will go out against the Nets.
(https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/lakers-lebron-james-anthony-davis-ruled-out-vs-nets-monday/)

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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

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The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
So what now? That's it? They will just move on from that stupid non-call from a "Chief referee". Take note that's a chief referee and he missed that call? I just hope that they're feeling well after not calling that pretty obvious call.

That's why I somewhat agree with what AD said in an interview that referees must be fined for these kind of mistakes. I mean in that Lakers-Celtics game, the referees missed a total of 7 calls including that last one with Lebron. You're a professional referee and you miss that number of call? Referees are being paid, but they aren't doing their job.
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Yeah, I would not rush it too, dude just came back and he needs to get his rhythm back same with Brandon Ingram of the New Orleans Pelicans who had been on and off the court. Injuries are not something to mess with, they need that fire lit back again and it doesn't come out 1-3 games, worse, 5 games.
But we know AD once the focus of him returned he could score 30-50 points and that's when we could say he is back with an expectation of a winning streak for the Lakers team.
I would not even worry about the seeding, the battle is so close from the top 3-13. Anytime another team could be on the playoff seed or there's always a chance to win the play in tournament.

That is true. AD has been away from the game for a few months, and it will take a few games to take away the rust from his play and get the groove back. And there is an adjustment period with their new acquisition as well, Rui Hachimura.
Hoochie-mama as Charles Barkley said. Cheesy

The acquisition of Hachimura has been a good move by the team and in fact, so far both teams won that trade because both teams are utilizing their newly acquired players and they are playing well with their new teams. Now the question is that, how impactful those 3 2nd round draft picks will be on the  Wizards (if they will not get traded).

As for AD and the Lakers as a team, I agree with what they said that the battle in the West is so tight that the Lakers just need 3 games while other teams in the top 6-8 lose 3 in order for the Lakers to clinch at least the play-ins. On the other hand, I don't expect AD to be that impactful right after his injury. Probably after the all-star break, he might explode at one night.

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That's why I somewhat agree with what AD said in an interview that referees must be fined for these kind of mistakes.
This makes complete sense but a tough call for NBA management to make. Veteran referees makes around $6K per game according to some articles so how do you intend to fine them? Maybe 10% of what they're earning? There is also an argument that it could only cause more drama within the league. I'd expect the National Basketball Referee Association to object to any fine and refuse to officiate any game.

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What happened to that game made me think to check who will officiate the game and review his background before placing a bet hehe.
Reference if interested also https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/

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Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.

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Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.
I confess that it was a very interesting game! Sometimes I am surprised by the performance that Ja Morant is currently having, what surprises me is his age, he is only 23 years old and I have no doubt that he will evolve a lot in his career.

Regarding the Cavaliers vs Clippers game, did anyone watch it?
I took a quick look at the game's statistics and was surprised with some numbers.
I'm surprised to see the Clippers' accuracy in 3 point shoot (2/19) only 10.5% accuracy, on the other hand, the Cavs had a relevant advantage, (20/33) 60.6% accuracy in 3 point shoot.

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And what others have thought:

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The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.
They don't do reviews anymore unless it's flagrant, this is where the coach's challenge will play a big part. It may just be one challenge but it can be used for crucial calls like this.
Anyway, I still believe referees are trying to do their best and what they said is true, they can make mistakes, tons of them. I have been trying to watch most of the NBA games that I could and I see a lot of missed calls from the referees.
This is a problem when they are focused on other calls like traveling and the ball carry, they tend to miss other details.

That play by Lebron though, all eyes on him, it's hard to miss that.
I think a coach challenge won't work too as no call was made. (contradicting myself  Grin) This is where they should research using the replay again on crucial moments. But not to the extent of abusing it.
Maybe 1 replay request and 1 coach challenge for each team.

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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

Yeah, Pat Bev and guess what the referee gave him, a technical foul,  Grin.

Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.

They are at home so I don't expect them to lose, but they took it easy in the first quarter and the Pacers take advantage of it. But in the second half it was all Memphis, after they tied the score at 78, Pacers did try to make a comeback. Memphis can't be denied because of Jackson Jr and then Ja Morant as well. Yeah, just very uncanny of Brooks to be playing bad at home, but at least they got the win and that's what important because they didn't win any at the road.
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January 30, 2023, 07:48:45 AM
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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

A clear disappointment with how the ref handles the game. A game changing play that we all know that if the ref stands in the right position
they can admit their mistake and correct the outcome of the game.

It can give them a good credibility and respect but they've chosen the wrong decision and make things controversial's, maybe they forget
that social medias can ruin them with how the replays circulate around the web.

Hope not to see a crucial non-call like this, especially that the season is near to next round.
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The Possibility is always there and by the thing, on how Lebron James is playing right now he is like at his prime I think this is because of his goal, he is really eager in getting that and right now he is 158 points away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar's All-time NBA points leader, and I think this is motivating Lebron James to do what he can in getting that record, and I think for Lakers in getting Bronny James I think this will keep Lebron James in getting motivated and giving his son a championship ring, I think what Lebron James needed right now is just motivation and the Lakers will give it to him,
Well, I don't know if LeBron James is in his prime, but I have no doubt that he is living a great moment in his life, because he is going through several important moments, for example, his possible retirement (I believe that maybe in 3 or 5 years he may retire, this is not real, just my assumption), LJ is winning several records, he is also having a not very good time in the Lakers (although he is scoring in several games), and also I have no doubt that he is analyzing and preparing (or at least helping) Bronny to enter the NBA, depending on the situation I have no doubt that LJ will also intend to do everything to get Bryce into the NBA in the future (which in my opinion has had a great evolution recently).

Despite of the controversial play, I do think Lebron James is still living in his prime as he remains as one of those steadiest players in the basketball game. Though we may see lapses on how he play, and some even hate him for that, but let’s us all think that we won’t live our career all in glory, sometimes even the best players in the century became unable to give their best shots. And as for his eldest son, we all know the Bronny James is set to follow his father’s footprints, that’s why Lebron James is also motivating him for that.

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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

Currently, one of the most embarrassing moments caused by the referee, and we consider this incident as there is something in the NBA that even the referee can't help to do anything about it. With this incident, the doubt about NBA being rigged became more apparent and they cannot hide this stuff so fast because it has been spread in social media already and because of how LBJ react to it, they seem to love seeing it with their multiple opinions about it. Let's see what kind of idea they have to implement in the next upcoming games because this incident will cause more than they thought because the fans are now turning to the refs every game and checking carefully about their miscalls and putting it in the internet.

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That's why I somewhat agree with what AD said in an interview that referees must be fined for these kind of mistakes.
This makes complete sense but a tough call for NBA management to make. Veteran referees makes around $6K per game according to some articles so how do you intend to fine them? Maybe 10% of what they're earning? There is also an argument that it could only cause more drama within the league. I'd expect the National Basketball Referee Association to object to any fine and refuse to officiate any game.

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What happened to that game made me think to check who will officiate the game and review his background before placing a bet hehe.
Reference if interested also https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/
Maybe depending on the call that they missed. For example, a specific amount will be fined to a referee if they missed a call in the last 2 minutes of the game. I'm not saying that they must fine the referee if they missed a call all throughout the game because that might affect the whole league as a whole. Maybe at least fine those referees who missed calls in the last 2 minutes of the game because that's the crucial part of the game especially if the game is that close like the Lakers-Celtics game. On the other hand, I doubt that they will implement this one, but they might consider it after what happened yesterday.

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Haliburton is the reason why the Pacers are better this season compare to last season so his absence will be felt and the team will be affected by a lot because of him not playing. He's their assist leader, their playmaker and we know how important a point guard is.

On the other hand, the Grizzlies really played well in the 2nd half. They are down as many as 19 in the 1st half, but slowly crawled back on the 2nd half, got the lead and never looked back. Travelling you say? They're not calling it anymore unless it's very very obvious and I don't think the league will do something about it. Travelling, sometimes ball carrying and others are the ones that most referees missed to call.

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January 30, 2023, 09:34:18 AM
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How about that foul on LeBron last night that cost the Lakers the game because of a no call? Crazy…

Yeah, that no call and then they call a foul on the other end? It looks like the referee is against the Lakers recently with a lot of no and controversial calls against them. They could have won that game in my opinion.

It was kind of heart breaking seeing LeBron like that, I mean that reaction was rare though and he was literally aching by what happened as it happened to them numerous times already. There's a meme circulating right now on the web that the NBA refs cost the Lakers 4 lost and that means, they could've land on the 6th or 7th seed but the refs were against them lately. Moreover, the Replay Center is now fully established, they should work that out in this kind of scenarios.

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