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[Koal-84]

Of course, and I think more teams will save money over the next few years. The first team McLaren than i mean Renault will the first factory team will save costs. Mercedes is also under pressure from the shareholders, I think. So the cost cap is inevitable.

AFAIK if Coronavirus will end with this wave the resources of teams should be damaged for at least 2 years.
This is why they will postpone the revolution of new cars by one year, to save money and use this car one more year.

That's correct the no factory teams have all problems with the money.

Back to a confusion MotoGP News

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/27/miller-signs-with-the-official-ducati-team-for-2021/331005

Miller is a solid driver, but Ducati don't will a champion? I think Miller is not the right driver for Ducati to win the championship...

Miller is a good driver but he has never had a good ride like Ducati.Beside that he is also one of the rain masters which can be a determining factor if Ducati makes a great moto for the season and it is also accompanied with rain then this is a winning combination.I look forward to see Miller in Ducati together with Dovizioso.

That's correct Miller is a good driver, but he's good enough to beat Dovizioso? Or one of the two can beat Honda/Marquez very difficult 

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Adding more info on this season of F1 according to Mediaset

Budget cap approved for 2021-2022-2023-2024-2025

GP Austria 1st GP, they will race 2 times here.
GP Hungary 19 July
GP England delayed to 2 August, they will race 2 times here
GP Barcelona 15 August
GP Belgium 30 August
GP Italy 6 September
GP Holland canceled and delayed to 2021

Getting more info later.

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^  Ugh.  That's what's left?  Man this pandemic really screwed everything over.  Lots of lives are gonna change after this.  Seriously.  I've now become this weird guy who washes his hands every minute.  Lolol.

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Nono, we have a lot more, found one more reliable source in Italian, you can get the names in English is easy.

19 races atm on this schedule, with 2 races in Austria and 2 in Great Britain and 2 Bahrain

5 luglio: Austria
12 luglio: Austria 2
26 luglio: Gran Bretagna
2 agosto: Gran Bretagna 2

9 agosto: Ungheria
23 agosto: Spagna
30 agosto: Belgio

6 settembre: Italia
20 settembre: Baku
27 settembre: Russia
4 ottobre: Cina
11 ottobre: Giappone
25 ottobre: Stati Uniti

1 novembre: Messico
8 novembre: Brasile

22 Novembre: Vietnam

29 Novembre: Bahrain 1
6 Dicembre: Bahrain 2
13 Dicembre: Abu Dhabi

Source: https://www.fanpage.it/sport/motori/formula-1-nuovo-calendario-2020-19-gp-in-programma-a-monza-il-6-settembre/

[LTU_btc]

Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.

[Juggy777]

^  Ugh.  That's what's left?  Man this pandemic really screwed everything over.  Lots of lives are gonna change after this.  Seriously.  I've now become this weird guy who washes his hands every minute.  Lolol.

@tokeweed yea we have no option but to adapt to this new reality, and you shouldn’t wash your hands every minute, because you’ll harm your skin in the long run due to those chemicals that they put in the sanitisers.

Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.

@LTU_btc while we all are disappointed that we won’t be able to watch the entire season, but under the current circumstances I’m sure that we all will be more than happy to watch any number of races, that they can organise for us don’t you’ll agree?.

Sources:

https://www.thestreet.com/markets/5-hidden-dangers-of-hand-sanitizers-12966410

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/may/28/silverstone-set-to-host-back-to-back-f1-races-in-august

[Naida_BR]

Well, it doesn't looks bad in current situation. Especially because at some moment I was sceptical that 2020 season will not happen at all. And in terms of logistics it doesn't looks very complicated - first races in Europe, then moving to Asia, America and finally in Middle East. It's strange why they don't held Vietnam Gp together with China and Japain. And I'm not sure how they will held races without spectators in city tracks like Baku and Vietnam.
And it will be strange to watch Seb in Ferrari and few other drivers when you know that he don't have future in that team.

This is going to change the whole calendar.
In this end it would be better to change the order of the races than not doing them at all... Spectators are not going to be included but this is a huge negative impact for F1 as a huge stream of income for the organization is spectators.

[Koal-84]

The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html

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The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html

Yeah if you remember the 2019 tests Williams was in such bad position (financial) that they came at the end of the 1st week because they didn't have the money to pay...
Rumors about the money cap is 145m$ for 2021, cut again from 1st idea @ 175m $.

I don't know if it will happen cause teams are already "speculating" with the idea of firing people to save money and I don't think it will be a good thing for the boss of F1 who will be considerer the responsible.

[LTU_btc]

@LTU_btc while we all are disappointed that we won’t be able to watch the entire season, but under the current circumstances I’m sure that we all will be more than happy to watch any number of races, that they can organise for us don’t you’ll agree?.

Yeah, it's obviously much better than nothing. We all been waiting for F1 for so long and I really miss it.

The tradition team Williams have financial problems and make a split from your sponsor.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.williams-could-sell-f1-team-as-board-announces-gbp13m-loss-in-2019-and-split.455wGjds3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html

It's sad to see current situation of legendary F1 team Williams. Just few years ago they were 3rd in constructors championship and now they turned into joke. It's all about bad management.

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Ok here we go, 1 month at the start of the season now is official by Formula 1.



Source: https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugy4bnXKGRSR5G13Cuh4AaABCQ

[Koal-84]

Thank you for the information, so i hope also nearly for the MotoGP calendar.

Here also a interview with F1 Boss Chase Carey

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.f1-boss-chase-carey-on-the-2020-calendar-new-regulations-and-commercial.vxVQaKOXGpVe1vEHGNZRR.html

The opening eight races of the calendar will take place in Europe, across six circuits. The target throughout has been to achieve 15 to 18 races. How confident is Carey of achieving that goal?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.f1-confirms-first-8-races-of-revised-2020-calendar-starting-with-austria.36X98qZnFFhNxQ8O2WdCON.html

I'm very curious whether the second race will take place counterclockwise?

[LTU_btc]

I'm very curious whether the second race will take place counterclockwise?

It would be interesting to see, but I read somewhere that they won't held races counterclockwise. Austrian track isn't licensed for that, not sure about Silverstone. Preparing track for such race would reauire lot of work and probably in current situation it's not possible.
I remember racing in Silverstone in oppsite direction on old racing simulator and it was fun, but it's not that easy as on usual direction .

[Juggy777]

I'm very curious whether the second race will take place counterclockwise?

It would be interesting to see, but I read somewhere that they won't held races counterclockwise. Austrian track isn't licensed for that, not sure about Silverstone. Preparing track for such race would reauire lot of work and probably in current situation it's not possible.
I remember racing in Silverstone in oppsite direction on old racing simulator and it was fun, but it's not that easy as on usual direction .

@Koal-84 @LTU_btc even Leclerc was excited to race counterclockwise on the Silverstone track, but sadly we won’t be seeing this kind of race being organised at least for this season. @LTU_btc your sentiments were echoed by Stuart Pringle Silverstone’s managing director who confirmed that this kind of race can definitely be organised on the Silverstone track, but currently they do not have the time or resources to arrange an counterclockwise race.

Source:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/formula1/charles-leclerc-coronavirus-ferrari-f1-race-calendar-a9479641.html

[swogerino]

I wonder what is the point of organizing two same races for certain events.If it is to fill the calendar with races I think better tracks can be chosen to be raced two times in them like Belgium and Italy which are classic races with lots of overtaking in them.The good thing is we finally are going to see racing action starting from next month.

[Koal-84]

I'm very curious whether the second race will take place counterclockwise?

It would be interesting to see, but I read somewhere that they won't held races counterclockwise. Austrian track isn't licensed for that, not sure about Silverstone. Preparing track for such race would reauire lot of work and probably in current situation it's not possible.
I remember racing in Silverstone in oppsite direction on old racing simulator and it was fun, but it's not that easy as on usual direction .

I'm very curious whether the second race will take place counterclockwise?

It would be interesting to see, but I read somewhere that they won't held races counterclockwise. Austrian track isn't licensed for that, not sure about Silverstone. Preparing track for such race would reauire lot of work and probably in current situation it's not possible.
I remember racing in Silverstone in oppsite direction on old racing simulator and it was fun, but it's not that easy as on usual direction .

@Koal-84 @LTU_btc even Leclerc was excited to race counterclockwise on the Silverstone track, but sadly we won’t be seeing this kind of race being organised at least for this season. @LTU_btc your sentiments were echoed by Stuart Pringle Silverstone’s managing director who confirmed that this kind of race can definitely be organised on the Silverstone track, but currently they do not have the time or resources to arrange an counterclockwise race.

Source:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/formula1/charles-leclerc-coronavirus-ferrari-f1-race-calendar-a9479641.html

I read the same it's very difficult to make races on tracks counterclockwise, for the drivers (that' you drive on a new track) and the most difficult is the security from the track.

https://www.sport.de/news/ne4050478/formel-1-rennen-in-die-falsche-richtung-der-aufwand-ist-gewaltig/

But better the championship begins 

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Ok here we go, 1 month at the start of the season now is official by Formula 1.



Source: https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugy4bnXKGRSR5G13Cuh4AaABCQ

Cool.  F1 is prolly the only sport I don't mind not to have the fans to be actually there during the event.  

...  So there are 8 races.  How many more coming?

Edit:  Oh wow.  They're mostly just a week apart.  

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Cool.  F1 is prolly the only sport I don't mind not to have the fans to be actually there during the event.  

If the situation will improve they are going for 17-19 GPs only the Gps on the previous picture are official.
The last GP will be on 13th of December where the hot will be, so Arabia and maybe south America.

[Koal-84]

News about MotoGP and driver carousel 😱😱

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/motogp-shock-pol-espargaro-to-join-marc-marquez-at-honda-in-2021/4801634/

O km from Alex Marquez at the factoury team and he must change after this years to the second Honda team 😁 so for KTM it's very difficult to become a new good driver, maybe Petrucci?

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Ross Brown has spoken and he said, "if we will have at least 8 Gps the Formula 1 will have a world Champion for this year".
So basically if they can't reach the 8th Gp this year we will have not a global winner but only Gp winners.

I think this is a great solution, Hamilton will not be happy .
Decreasing the number of races will increase the variance, anything can happen.