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Author Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 6589835 times)
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November 25, 2019, 12:36:11 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059817.msg53174391#msg53174391

Quote from: kerney666
We will shortly release a Ethash miner testing tool, it's just a simple open source node.js project. You will be able to run controlled long-running tests on all miners. The reason this is important is that the displayed hashrates of Claymore and Phoenix are just bullshit. They both add +1.5% or more of fake hashrate. I don't ask anyone to buy these claims without being able to verify it themselves though, which is why we'll release the tool (which acts as a low diff fake pool with a static epoch and controlled job update mechanism) and everyone can see for themselves if they are willing to mine air for ~24h. To verify that we're not insane, we've also reverse engineered both miners, analysed their kernels, traced their OpenCL enqueue calls, and the evidence is clear.

Plenty of people have already pointed this out just by logging all shares over time, but it's really hard to prove anything. You need controlled runs of (preferably) 1 million shares, which is more or less impossible without controlling the environment properly. Another simple way is just to find a big farm from e.g. the frontpage of ethermine.org (found blocks) and check the difference between their reported and accepted hashrate.

Here is one example: https://ethermine.org/miners/6F714AaAAF72977267601cC1cADC49fb3966Ff89/dashboard

Reported: 3.206 TH/s, Accepted: 3.111 TH/s, difference -2.97%. I'm fairly certain this is Phoenix miner. Why do we have a diff of -3%? The dev fee is 0.65%, and there are 1% stale shares, and this is a HUGE sample set that should converge nicely. Contrary to what people seem to believe, the additional -1.35% just should _not_ disappear. For comparison, here is a run using our soon-to-be-released testing tool for 247k shares on Phoenix 4.7c:

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Hashrates for 1 active connections:
    Global hashrate: 228.51 MH/s vs 235.43 MH/s avg reported [diff -2.94%] (A247366:S1575:R0 shares, 93582 secs)
    Global stats: 99.37% acc, 0.63% stale, 0% rej.
    [1] hashrate:  228.51 MH/s vs 235.43 MH/s avg reported [diff -2.94%] (A247366:S1575:R0 shares, 93582 secs)


Look at that, a diff of -2.94% between the reported and accepted hashrate, what a coincidence? To be fair though, 247k shares is only good for a +-0.5% estimate at 99% confidence, so we must treat the value accordingly. The point is that neither CM nor PM can never ever produce a poolside hashrate over time that matches their displayed hashrates.

Sorry for a long rant to your simple question, the bigger point I'm trying to make is this: unless miners start accepting that CM and PM are bullshitting their displayed hashrates, "comparing" CM/PM/TRM/Ethminer is pointless, you'll just be stating that CM and PM are much better than what they really are.
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November 25, 2019, 05:07:26 PM
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my geforce 1050ti  dont have any problem in ubuntu 18.04 and work correctly but i have problem to use ubuntu with amd rx560 card
i do install driver in ubuntu 18.04 but claymore not detect my card to start mining.
what i must to do ?
pls help
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Did you install the graphics driver for RX560?
If not try this driver.
It has compatibility with RX560 card.
Also, see if disconnecting GTX 1050ti card makes RX560 detectible by the miner.
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November 25, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
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I've seen that some of you guys have problem with allocating DAG on 4GB cards. What mobos and configs do you use?

Never once i had encounter that problem and some of you have even switched to Linux because of this. I have a really hyge virtual memory config and the HDMI to monitor is on the motherboard iGPU-port (and of course activated in BIOS). Maybe that is the reason that some experience an issue and some not. Windows doesnt allocate any memory to my gpus at all what i can see.
It is even possible to mine ETC at DAG #308 with total GPU memory usage at 3,56GB per GPU.

Can you who have problems with allocating DAG size please share your configs?

I have a rig with:

Windows 10 pro
Newest AMD drivers (19.11.3)
64GB virtual memory
Asus B250 Mining Expert
Intel core i5 6500

GPUs:
6x Sapphire Nitro RX470 4GB Mining Edition
2x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 4GB
1x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB
1x MSI Radeon Vii 16gb

//Trehjulingsleffe
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November 25, 2019, 09:02:06 PM
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I've seen that some of you guys have problem with allocating DAG on 4GB cards. What mobos and configs do you use?

Never once i had encounter that problem and some of you have even switched to Linux because of this. I have a really hyge virtual memory config and the HDMI to monitor is on the motherboard iGPU-port (and of course activated in BIOS). Maybe that is the reason that some experience an issue and some not. Windows doesnt allocate any memory to my gpus at all what i can see.
It is even possible to mine ETC at DAG #308 with total GPU memory usage at 3,56GB per GPU.

Can you who have problems with allocating DAG size please share your configs?

I have a rig with:

Windows 10 pro
Newest AMD drivers (19.11.3)
64GB virtual memory
Asus B250 Mining Expert
Intel core i5 6500

GPUs:
6x Sapphire Nitro RX470 4GB Mining Edition
2x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 4GB
1x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB
1x MSI Radeon Vii 16gb

//Trehjulingsleffe

If your gpu0 has more than 4gb the dag will be loaded on it ... this allows the other 4gb gpu's to work without errors.
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November 26, 2019, 12:44:31 AM
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Are the 1050ti still giving "cannot write dag" errors on windows? And has anyone found a new fix for it?

Win7 will be ok
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November 26, 2019, 01:04:22 AM
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Is this 15.0 good for gpu 1060 nvidia?
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November 26, 2019, 03:04:25 AM
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Is this 15.0 good for gpu 1060 nvidia?

If its the 6gig card.
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November 26, 2019, 03:19:29 AM
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Earlier today I got a "Pool sent wrong data, cannot set epoch, disconnect" message and it has been doing so ever since.  I'm assuming its due to the older version of Claymore I'm using.  So I'm trying to upgrade from v12 to v15 on Xubuntu.  I downloaded the file to my Downloads folder.  The command I'm using from the Downloads folder is
sudo tar -xvf Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 - Linux.tar.gz -C /usr/local/claymore15.0

When I press enter, I just get

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Nothing happens after this.

I can see the file in the Downloads folder but it doesn't seem to extract to the folder I want.  When I tried doing it through the GUI, I get a "You Don't Have Permission" message.

Anyone have any advice or could lend some assistance?  I'd really love to get this rig mining again.  It would be much appreciated.

Currently running 6 x 8GB RX580s

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November 26, 2019, 05:16:37 AM
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Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

The developers at TRM are alleging that both Claymore and Phoenix ETH miner are displaying hashrates that are 1.5% more than what it really is. Read more about it at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059817.msg53174391#msg53174391. Please help determine if the allegations are indeed true.
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November 26, 2019, 05:50:52 AM
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Earlier today I got a "Pool sent wrong data, cannot set epoch, disconnect" message and it has been doing so ever since.  I'm assuming its due to the older version of Claymore I'm using.  So I'm trying to upgrade from v12 to v15 on Xubuntu.  I downloaded the file to my Downloads folder.  The command I'm using from the Downloads folder is
sudo tar -xvf Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 - Linux.tar.gz -C /usr/local/claymore15.0

When I press enter, I just get

>

Nothing happens after this.

I can see the file in the Downloads folder but it doesn't seem to extract to the folder I want.  When I tried doing it through the GUI, I get a "You Don't Have Permission" message.

Anyone have any advice or could lend some assistance?  I'd really love to get this rig mining again.  It would be much appreciated.

Currently running 6 x 8GB RX580s

To extract the file, you can try:
'sudo -tar xzvf' instead of 'sudo -tar xvf'

If you are facing permission issues, just use chmod command.
The same for it is:
'chmod 777 filename.extension'

Then try extracting again.
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November 26, 2019, 11:23:51 AM
Last edit: November 26, 2019, 11:40:38 AM by bategojko74
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Earlier today I got a "Pool sent wrong data, cannot set epoch, disconnect" message and it has been doing so ever since.  I'm assuming its due to the older version of Claymore I'm using.  So I'm trying to upgrade from v12 to v15 on Xubuntu.  I downloaded the file to my Downloads folder.  The command I'm using from the Downloads folder is
sudo tar -xvf Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 - Linux.tar.gz -C /usr/local/claymore15.0

When I press enter, I just get

>

Nothing happens after this.

I can see the file in the Downloads folder but it doesn't seem to extract to the folder I want.  When I tried doing it through the GUI, I get a "You Don't Have Permission" message.

Anyone have any advice or could lend some assistance?  I'd really love to get this rig mining again.  It would be much appreciated.

Currently running 6 x 8GB RX580s

To extract the file, you can try:
'sudo -tar xzvf' instead of 'sudo -tar xvf'

If you are facing permission issues, just use chmod command.
The same for it is:
'chmod 777 filename.extension'

Then try extracting again.

Yesterday Claymores hasrate dropped with 35% from 33 GH/s * X (maybe X is between 11 and 17) to  21 GH/s * X. It seems to me that people like SugeMike03 are the reason for this drop.
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November 26, 2019, 12:46:21 PM
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I'm still getting the "Pool sent wrong data, cannot set epoch, disconnect", even upgrading to v15. Am I missing anything?

Currently using "Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 - LINUX.tar.gz".

My start command is "./ethdcrminer64 -epool us1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal ETHWALLET -epsw x -mport 3333 -mpsw PASS

Thank you.
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November 26, 2019, 12:58:43 PM
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I'm still getting the "Pool sent wrong data, cannot set epoch, disconnect", even upgrading to v15. Am I missing anything?

Currently using "Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 - LINUX.tar.gz".

My start command is "./ethdcrminer64 -epool us1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal ETHWALLET -epsw x -mport 3333 -mpsw PASS

Thank you.
I think that you should upgrade your newest version of the Claymore miner to the newest version of the PhoenixMiner Smiley
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November 26, 2019, 05:53:53 PM
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Upgrade to 15.0 version , windows 10
The command works fine, but in nanopool site my worker is offline
Start file:
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eth-eu.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.worker/mail@google.com -epsw x -mode 1 -ftime 10 -rxboost 1

Is it correct?
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November 26, 2019, 06:00:58 PM
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I have a question about  rx5700 gpu. I was running it two weeks ago and with the current clocks it was making over 53mgh , now when I put it again it hashes with 51.50mgh . What could be the issue? Same setting, same rig. 
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November 26, 2019, 07:46:07 PM
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Upgrade to 15.0 version , windows 10
The command works fine, but in nanopool site my worker is offline
Start file:
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eth-eu.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.worker/mail@google.com -epsw x -mode 1 -ftime 10 -rxboost 1

Is it correct?

It's your command line that is pointing to dwarfpool.com ...

Nanopool Connection Settings: eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9433
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November 27, 2019, 01:40:34 AM
Last edit: November 27, 2019, 02:44:49 AM by datminer
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Will using the strap option likely make the card run hotter? Or is it just an efficiency thing?

I use '-ethi 0' (Ethereum intensity) so my card runs cooler for various reasons. Will using '-strap 1' with '-ethi 0' cancel each other out? Basically I'd like to use the strap option but not if it will make the card run hotter.
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November 27, 2019, 03:43:39 AM
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Will using the strap option likely make the card run hotter? Or is it just an efficiency thing?

I use '-ethi 0' (Ethereum intensity) so my card runs cooler for various reasons. Will using '-strap 1' with '-ethi 0' cancel each other out? Basically I'd like to use the strap option but not if it will make the card run hotter.

Yes it will use more electricity and it will run hotter. How the ETH algo works its mostly limited by the memory speed. So most of the time the GPU is not doing much since its waiting for the memory to complete its job. By changing the memory straps the memory runs faster and is able to provide the GPU compute the data to analyse quicker, so your speed increases from like 23MH/s to 30MH/s (if RX 570). Since the GPU uses more resources it uses more power and hence runs hotter.

This is actually why it was possible to dual-mine with ETH, because the GPU didn't do much most of the time and it was possible to mine at full ETH speeds while also dual mining other coins like DCR or SIA or PASC.
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November 27, 2019, 04:16:21 AM
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Thank you @adaseb
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November 27, 2019, 04:40:26 AM
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So it appears that my drive was full so it wouldn't let me extract anything.  Figured it out once I realized none of the downloads I was trying to extract were working.

I've reinstalled everything onto a larger HD and am running into a different situation now.  When I try to fire up the miner, I get a "Segmentation Fault (Core Dumped)"

Claymore's Dual GPU Miner - v15.0
              ETH + DCR/SIA/LBC/PASC/BLAKE2S/KECCAK
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ETH: 1 pool is specified
Main Ethereum pool is eth-us-east1.nanopool.org:9999
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Any ideas?  Really appreciate all your assistance.
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