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September 28, 2019, 08:43:12 AM |
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Amazing to see Claymore still powering through miner updates. I can only imagine how much money he already has from all the dev fees. I wouldn't be surprised if hes already retired.
Quoting a post from reddit: "If half of miners use Claymore's software, the coins they mine are $5m/day. If the fee is 2%, Claymore earns about $100000 a day. That's $36 million a year"
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$36 million a year - this was back in 2017-2018 year!!! Currently all the mined coins are $2M USD/day. Infact 40% use claymore and his real fee is 1.3% so he earns just about 3.8 million per year. Poor Claymore. Let us donate him at the following Claymore's ETH addresses (where his devfee is send): 0x34FAAa028162C4d4E92DB6abfA236A8E90fF2FC3 0x3509F7bd9557F8a9b793759b3E3bfA2Cd505ae31 0x7Fb21ac4Cd75d9De3E1c5D11D87bB904c01880fc 0xB9cF2dA90Bdff1BC014720Cc84F5Ab99d7974EbA 0xc1c427cD8E6B7Ee3b5F30c2e1D3f3c5536EC16f5 0xc6F31A79526c641de4E432CB22a88BB577A67eaC 0xdE088812A9c5005b0dC8447B37193c9e8b67a1fF 0xe19fFB70E148A76d26698036A9fFD22057967D1b i dont understand people who counts someone else money.what can bring it for you? Instead wasting for calculating that you could do invent something like that too and make your own devfee. Do it 0.1% 10% it is all up to you. Claymore doing great job and im glad to pay him 1.3$ for earned 100$. Keep it claymore as long as you can. Thanks I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
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Claymore (OP)
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September 28, 2019, 10:43:28 AM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs.
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September 28, 2019, 10:54:36 AM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. all I can say is: Thank You Claymore for your work Your contribution in the crypto world is simply immeasurable
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If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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micalith
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September 28, 2019, 02:21:56 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
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laineux
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September 28, 2019, 02:30:14 PM |
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Hello @claymore Is it possible to add the block number each time this line appears ? ETH: 09/28/19-16:28:35 - New job from eu2.ethermine.org:14444
thank you (for your very hard work)
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September 28, 2019, 02:38:16 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
What clocks are you running?
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Claymore (OP)
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September 28, 2019, 02:45:59 PM |
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@big_daddy: thanks! Is it possible to add the block number each time this line appears ?
Unfortunately, pools don't send block number, they only send seedhash so miner can detect epoch number only, not the block number.
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micalith
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September 28, 2019, 02:58:08 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
What clocks are you running? well, I tried different time periods if you mean this. Night or day, doesn't matter. It is stable around 27.7 ish. And another issues that I have is internet connection. I lose the internet connection if I try to use the internet for other things with mining. I don't have a rig, I am just learning and trying through my personal computer.
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September 28, 2019, 03:31:35 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
What clocks are you running? well, I tried different time periods if you mean this. Night or day, doesn't matter. It is stable around 27.7 ish. And another issues that I have is internet connection. I lose the internet connection if I try to use the internet for other things with mining. I don't have a rig, I am just learning and trying through my personal computer. The frequencies of your GPU and Vram. I get 33,1 Mh/s (RX580) with these settings : -rxboost 1 -strap 2 -cclock 1220 -mclock 2200 -cvddc 900
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bategojko74
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September 28, 2019, 04:05:28 PM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower.
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micalith
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September 28, 2019, 04:34:04 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
What clocks are you running? well, I tried different time periods if you mean this. Night or day, doesn't matter. It is stable around 27.7 ish. And another issues that I have is internet connection. I lose the internet connection if I try to use the internet for other things with mining. I don't have a rig, I am just learning and trying through my personal computer. The frequencies of your GPU and Vram. I get 33,1 Mh/s (RX580) with these settings : -rxboost 1 -strap 2 -cclock 1220 -mclock 2200 -cvddc 900 I used your setting and got 31 Mh/s, thanks. What about the internet connection issues that I get? Could it be related to my modem? Another question is what do you mine and what is your ROI?
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Ursul0
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September 28, 2019, 04:56:58 PM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower. that's funny:) are you being serious? without even taking into account possible network issues, possible stale shares, and whatever else. why would you assume that the pool that you are using is not stealing you hash, but Claymore does? btw does it have any advantages over using phoenix miner(with lower fee) along with amdmemtweak? or does this miner is actually able to produce same hash rate as the bios modded cards?
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Ursul0
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September 28, 2019, 05:05:55 PM |
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I am using RX580 and started to mine a week ago. The supposed hash rate should be 30-31 mh I guess but I don't seem to get that one. I only get 27.7 mh. I made lots of searches, used the latest drivers and switched my gpu to compute mode, nothing changed. Any other advices that I can get?
What clocks are you running? well, I tried different time periods if you mean this. Night or day, doesn't matter. It is stable around 27.7 ish. And another issues that I have is internet connection. I lose the internet connection if I try to use the internet for other things with mining. I don't have a rig, I am just learning and trying through my personal computer. The frequencies of your GPU and Vram. I get 33,1 Mh/s (RX580) with these settings : -rxboost 1 -strap 2 -cclock 1220 -mclock 2200 -cvddc 900 I used your setting and got 31 Mh/s, thanks. What about the internet connection issues that I get? Could it be related to my modem? Another question is what do you mine and what is your ROI? Are you using unmodified GPU? I mean you didn't actually do a BIOS mod? That's really interesting if its the case. You should not stop there. A 580 should be able to go above 32MH. Also try lowering the voltage to around 850 and lowering the core clock and maxing out the mem clock
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Claymore (OP)
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September 28, 2019, 05:40:22 PM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower. So you were talking about fake devfee rate 1.3%, now it's fine but there is fake hashrate 1.5%, right? Where do you take these numbers? Ok, probably you have own good source of them. From my experience, I always see a couple of percents fluctuations in hashrate on pool side, and usually it's a bit less than miner shows because miner shows raw hashrate, i.e. it ignores devfee, stale and invalid shares, startup time, dag creation file and other minor things. But pool has to calculate miner's speed from shares only so there is some small error rate there, always. And hashrate that you see on the pool is "final" hashrate, it's always a bit lower. Anyway, if you don't like hashrate that you see, or don't believe it - just use some other miner that shows better numbers or numbers that you believe. I even saw reports like "I tried miner X and now I see +10% shares on pool", so some people think that they get a lot more than 1.5% after changing miner You can try this way too and find the best miner for you, no one forces you to use my miner if you don't like it. PS. I assume that you don't use "devfee cut" tools or cracks, in this case miner really may show some fake hashrate, read Readme for details.
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micalith
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September 28, 2019, 07:59:31 PM |
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Hey Claymore
Cannot resolve 'eu1.ethermine.org' ETH: Stratum - Cannot connect to eu1.ethermine.org:5555 DevFee: ETH: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
my settings are correct and I am mining normally. But your devfee settings are not working and the mining doesn't continue if this is not fixed. Such a great problem. I kept getting this error many times and I lost bunch of times. Tell me what to do if I wasn't controling my screens? I was gonna lose a night maybe?
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September 28, 2019, 08:47:20 PM Last edit: September 28, 2019, 09:17:54 PM by bategojko74 |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower. So you were talking about fake devfee rate 1.3%, now it's fine but there is fake hashrate 1.5%, right? Where do you take these numbers? Ok, probably you have own good source of them. From my experience, I always see a couple of percents fluctuations in hashrate on pool side, and usually it's a bit less than miner shows because miner shows raw hashrate, i.e. it ignores devfee, stale and invalid shares, startup time, dag creation file and other minor things. But pool has to calculate miner's speed from shares only so there is some small error rate there, always. And hashrate that you see on the pool is "final" hashrate, it's always a bit lower. Anyway, if you don't like hashrate that you see, or don't believe it - just use some other miner that shows better numbers or numbers that you believe. I even saw reports like "I tried miner X and now I see +10% shares on pool", so some people think that they get a lot more than 1.5% after changing miner You can try this way too and find the best miner for you, no one forces you to use my miner if you don't like it. PS. I assume that you don't use "devfee cut" tools or cracks, in this case miner really may show some fake hashrate, read Readme for details. Forget the network connections and pools. I really have my own great source of data - it's called common sense. Just take all the shares (accepted + incorrect + rejected) from your log and the averaged stated speed (this needs some elementary programming skills - not applicable to 99.5% of the people who will read this) also from your log for a statistically long enough period (a week, a month or more). Use some basic math (I am not gonna give free math lessons here) having in mind the difficulty of the pool and the time the miner have worked and if you have applied the math properly you will easily find that the stated hashrate is about 1.5% higher than the real one. As easy as pie.
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Claymore (OP)
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September 28, 2019, 09:13:51 PM |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower. So you were talking about fake devfee rate 1.3%, now it's fine but there is fake hashrate 1.5%, right? Where do you take these numbers? Ok, probably you have own good source of them. From my experience, I always see a couple of percents fluctuations in hashrate on pool side, and usually it's a bit less than miner shows because miner shows raw hashrate, i.e. it ignores devfee, stale and invalid shares, startup time, dag creation file and other minor things. But pool has to calculate miner's speed from shares only so there is some small error rate there, always. And hashrate that you see on the pool is "final" hashrate, it's always a bit lower. Anyway, if you don't like hashrate that you see, or don't believe it - just use some other miner that shows better numbers or numbers that you believe. I even saw reports like "I tried miner X and now I see +10% shares on pool", so some people think that they get a lot more than 1.5% after changing miner You can try this way too and find the best miner for you, no one forces you to use my miner if you don't like it. PS. I assume that you don't use "devfee cut" tools or cracks, in this case miner really may show some fake hashrate, read Readme for details. Forget the network connections and pools. I really have my own great source of data - it's called common sense. Just take all the shares (accepted + incorrect + rejected) from your log and the averaged stated speed (this needs some elementary programming skills - not applicable to 99.5% of the people who will read this) also from your log for a statistically long enough period (a week, a month or more). Use some basic math (I am not gonna give free math lessons here) having in mind the difficulty of the pool and if you have applied the math properly you will easily find that the stated hashrate is about 1.5% higher than the real one. As easy as pie. You are correct, everybody can examine the logfile and find some better miner if don't like the results. As easy as pie.
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September 28, 2019, 09:21:50 PM Last edit: September 28, 2019, 10:29:24 PM by bategojko74 |
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I don't mind the honestly won millions but I don't understand people that accept to be lied: you have been charged 1.3% when it is clearly stated that you should be charged 1%.
Oh, another newbie states that I'm a thief. I don't care when you get crazy numbers like 39 or 19M$, you can even call me the richest person of this planet, I don't mind. But if you call me a thief and state that I lie about devfee rate, show some proofs. Oops, Sorry. I am in mistake. Your devfee is honest but your hashrate is fake with about 1.5% higher. Everybody can see that by subtracting the pool hash rate from your hashrate doesn't gives 1% (devfee) difference but gives about 2.5% which means that your real hashrate is about 1.5% lower. So you were talking about fake devfee rate 1.3%, now it's fine but there is fake hashrate 1.5%, right? Where do you take these numbers? Ok, probably you have own good source of them. From my experience, I always see a couple of percents fluctuations in hashrate on pool side, and usually it's a bit less than miner shows because miner shows raw hashrate, i.e. it ignores devfee, stale and invalid shares, startup time, dag creation file and other minor things. But pool has to calculate miner's speed from shares only so there is some small error rate there, always. And hashrate that you see on the pool is "final" hashrate, it's always a bit lower. Anyway, if you don't like hashrate that you see, or don't believe it - just use some other miner that shows better numbers or numbers that you believe. I even saw reports like "I tried miner X and now I see +10% shares on pool", so some people think that they get a lot more than 1.5% after changing miner You can try this way too and find the best miner for you, no one forces you to use my miner if you don't like it. PS. I assume that you don't use "devfee cut" tools or cracks, in this case miner really may show some fake hashrate, read Readme for details. Forget the network connections and pools. I really have my own great source of data - it's called common sense. Just take all the shares (accepted + incorrect + rejected) from your log and the averaged stated speed (this needs some elementary programming skills - not applicable to 99.5% of the people who will read this) also from your log for a statistically long enough period (a week, a month or more). Use some basic math (I am not gonna give free math lessons here) having in mind the difficulty of the pool and if you have applied the math properly you will easily find that the stated hashrate is about 1.5% higher than the real one. As easy as pie. You are correct, everybody can examine the logfile and find some better miner if don't like the results. As easy as pie. In fact I don't think that you have intentionally raised the hashrate. It seems to me, that you are a honest person. My suggestion is that there is a bug in your software in the way that you calculate the real hashrate. Such kind of bugs are just not appealing to be fixed. Please fix it for your users' sake.
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September 29, 2019, 05:41:34 AM |
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I know you can take a log file and if you have a long enough mining duration say 1 month, then you can easily add all the accepted+rejected+stale and get an accurate measurement and being within +- 1% is fairly close.
I think the 1% loss you are talking about is not related to the Claymore software but most likely due to the GPU drivers. I know with my AMD RX series GPUs there is a time when some GPUs hash a little slower for a few seconds and then resume the optimal speed. Been trying to figure out why it happens but couldn't and just left it the way it was because the speed loss was minimal. So find in your logs if your speed was always constant or did it slow down from time to time. You can probably find this easily with MS Excel when you load your log file.
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September 29, 2019, 07:19:12 AM Last edit: September 29, 2019, 08:09:36 AM by bategojko74 |
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I know you can take a log file and if you have a long enough mining duration say 1 month, then you can easily add all the accepted+rejected+stale and get an accurate measurement and being within +- 1% is fairly close.
I think the 1% loss you are talking about is not related to the Claymore software but most likely due to the GPU drivers. I know with my AMD RX series GPUs there is a time when some GPUs hash a little slower for a few seconds and then resume the optimal speed. Been trying to figure out why it happens but couldn't and just left it the way it was because the speed loss was minimal. So find in your logs if your speed was always constant or did it slow down from time to time. You can probably find this easily with MS Excel when you load your log file.
Nobody is talking about speed fluctuations here. The averaged stated speed incorporates them. If miner does not work at some moment it prints 0.000 Mh/s in console (and log) and this zero is heaped when calculating the averaged speed and the number of samples is increased by one for this zero. Come on man use a little the last floor of your body. I talk that this averaged stated speed in console and in the log is 1.5% higher than the real one which can be calculated from the found shares (locally, not at the pools side), difficulty and the time that the miner has worked.
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