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I have used P106 under windows 10 with v15 with no problem (the latest drivers).
Thanks for your comment. I will try using Win10 if D-day comes and it still doesn't work. But for now, I would prefer finding a fix under Win7 simply because there are several rigs affected (not just one). Here is the log if anyone is interested: 08:19:41:116 e3c Check and remove old log files... 08:19:41:116 e3c args: -epool eth-asia1.nanopool.org:9999 -ewal (REDACTED) -epsw x -lidag 3 -retrydelay 8 -ftime 10 -strap 3 08:19:41:117 e3c 08:19:41:120 e3c …ÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕª 08:19:41:121 e3c ∫ Claymore's Dual GPU Miner - v15.0 ∫ 08:19:41:123 e3c ∫ ETH + DCR/SIA/LBC/PASC/BLAKE2S/KECCAK ∫ 08:19:41:124 e3c ∫ Supercharged Edition ∫ 08:19:41:126 e3c »ÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕº 08:19:41:127 e3c 08:19:41:127 e3c b755 08:19:41:329 e3c ETH: 6 pools are specified 08:19:41:331 e3c Main Ethereum pool is eth-asia1.nanopool.org:9999 08:19:41:332 e3c DCR: 0 pool is specified 08:19:41:514 e3c OpenCL platform: Intel(R) OpenCL 08:19:41:514 e3c OpenCL platform: NVIDIA CUDA 08:19:41:514 e3c AMD OpenCL platform not found 08:19:41:853 e3c CUDA initializing...
08:19:41:853 e3c NVIDIA Cards available: 7 08:19:41:854 e3c CUDA Driver Version/Runtime Version: 8.0/8.0 08:19:41:898 e3c GPU #0: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 1:0:0) 08:19:41:902 e3c GPU #1: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 2:0:0) 08:19:41:904 e3c GPU #2: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 3:0:0) 08:19:41:908 e3c GPU #3: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 5:0:0) 08:19:41:914 e3c GPU #4: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 6:0:0) 08:19:41:917 e3c GPU #5: P106-100, 6144 MB available, 10 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 7:0:0)
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September 09, 2019, 11:05:47 PM |
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So, anyone with RX 5700XT mining ETH, can you give info on your memory temperatures? Does it exceed 95 oC?
Not even close - the hottest VRM temp is 62 C for me. Memory is at stock settings currently, waiting for a miner update before I try tweaking that aspect again. Fan speed set at 60%, GPU Temp is 59 C (undervolted, ~107 watts power draw).
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September 10, 2019, 01:51:31 AM |
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So, anyone with RX 5700XT mining ETH, can you give info on your memory temperatures? Does it exceed 95 oC?
Not even close - the hottest VRM temp is 62 C for me. Memory is at stock settings currently, waiting for a miner update before I try tweaking that aspect again. Fan speed set at 60%, GPU Temp is 59 C (undervolted, ~107 watts power draw). Not the VRM. In the Afterburner it's the Memory Temp. in HWINFO is the HBM temperature.
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September 10, 2019, 05:59:13 PM |
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So, anyone with RX 5700XT mining ETH, can you give info on your memory temperatures? Does it exceed 95 oC?
Not even close - the hottest VRM temp is 62 C for me. Memory is at stock settings currently, waiting for a miner update before I try tweaking that aspect again. Fan speed set at 60%, GPU Temp is 59 C (undervolted, ~107 watts power draw). Not the VRM. In the Afterburner it's the Memory Temp. in HWINFO is the HBM temperature. I just checked in HWInfo; the HBM Temp is at 74 C.
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September 11, 2019, 01:35:46 AM |
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So, anyone with RX 5700XT mining ETH, can you give info on your memory temperatures? Does it exceed 95 oC?
I've noticed my HBM temps are running really high: 90-96C I have 2 Sapphire Pulse 5700, one XT, one non-XT GPU temp is usually around 60-64C and hotspot temp never gets over 70-71C Using this in cmd line: -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900
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September 11, 2019, 01:50:45 AM |
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So, anyone with RX 5700XT mining ETH, can you give info on your memory temperatures? Does it exceed 95 oC?
I've noticed my HBM temps are running really high: 90-96C I have 2 Sapphire Pulse 5700, one XT, one non-XT GPU temp is usually around 60-64C and hotspot temp never gets over 70-71C Using this in cmd line: -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 Thanks for the info. Looks like Sapphire Pulse cooler is unable to cool down the memory chips under mining load, and the reference cooler does better job at it. Are you using custom fan speeds or left it on auto? Also does The XT and non-XT performs the same regarding mining?
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September 11, 2019, 01:59:22 AM Last edit: September 11, 2019, 03:37:56 AM by Bathmat |
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Thanks for the info. Looks like Sapphire Pulse cooler is unable to cool down the memory chips under mining load, and the reference cooler does better job at it. Are you using custom fan speeds or left it on auto? Also does The XT and non-XT performs the same regarding mining?
Non-XT is 0.5-0.8 Mh/s slower than XT given the same clock, etc. settings I'm using MSI AB for fan curve, but it doesn't seem to be affecting it much (if it's even working). I had the fans up to 90%+ which might have cooled the core temp a little, but HBM temp remained the same.
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September 11, 2019, 09:09:39 AM |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
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September 11, 2019, 11:11:32 AM |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature: 'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following. This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor. Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C. So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C). I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.'
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September 11, 2019, 12:01:12 PM |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature: 'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following. This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor. Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C. So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C). I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.' I saw that site/link too when I did some searching about. So high temps are probably ok, but 90C+ still seems pretty high even if Tj Max is 105 C. However, there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it... Changing fan speeds, etc. doesn't lower the temp. It shoots up over 80C pretty much as soon as the miner starts. I guess the only thing would be to reduce mining intensity. That being said, the miner ran all night (8 hours) without a hiccup or throttling. So as long as the temps aren't going to kill the mem long term, maybe they can handle it.
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September 11, 2019, 12:05:16 PM |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature: 'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following. This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor. Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C. So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C). I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.' I saw that site/link too when I did some searching about. So high temps are probably ok, but 90C+ still seems pretty high even if Tj Max is 105 C. However, there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it... Changing fan speeds, etc. doesn't lower the temp. It shoots up over 80C pretty much as soon as the miner starts. I guess the only thing would be to reduce mining intensity. That being said, the miner ran all night (8 hours) without a hiccup or throttling. So as long as the temps aren't going to kill the mem long term, maybe they can handle it. you can control GPU HBM temperature indirectly by passing very low -tt such as -tt 54 or -tt 53 and -fanmin 54 for an instance.
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September 11, 2019, 03:03:19 PM |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature: 'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following. This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor. Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C. So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C). I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.' I saw that site/link too when I did some searching about. So high temps are probably ok, but 90C+ still seems pretty high even if Tj Max is 105 C. However, there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it... Changing fan speeds, etc. doesn't lower the temp. It shoots up over 80C pretty much as soon as the miner starts. I guess the only thing would be to reduce mining intensity. That being said, the miner ran all night (8 hours) without a hiccup or throttling. So as long as the temps aren't going to kill the mem long term, maybe they can handle it. you can control GPU HBM temperature indirectly by passing very low -tt such as -tt 54 or -tt 53 and -fanmin 54 for an instance. Tried those. Fans spin faster, core comes down a few deg, mem comes down a couple deg, but still 90C. Also tried -ethi 2, HBM temp showed 84C, but obviously speed was reduced too... 45 and 47Mh/s So, perhaps it's a design flaw with the Sapphire Pulse heat sink/cooler.
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September 11, 2019, 03:12:14 PM |
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I would expect the Non XT to run at around 48MHs (36 CU vs 40 CU), don't know much about power usage in that case.
Nah I’m running plain 5700...extra cores don’t do anything for eth, and it will matter even less when miners are running wave32 code. Yes, both 5700XT and 5700 have the same hashrate. HEY, Will the 40 computational units be available in the future? is this predictable?
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September 11, 2019, 04:20:06 PM |
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Bumping this. Still need a solution. Hi everyone. I need some help regarding mining with P106.
Rig specs: - 7x Zotac P106, total sightly below 170 Mh/s - Windows 7 64-bit - nVidia driver version 382.53 - Claymore miner version 11.0 (any version newer than this will always crash for me!) - MSI Afterburner version 4.4.2 - Virtual memory sufficiently high
Current situation: - Been running this setup for past ~2 years with very few issues - I've paid thousands of USD in fees to Claymore since the beginning - Happy with performance, consistency and stability - It's working fine right now
Problem: - I am being forced to abandon v11.0 and install v15.0 once DAG #299 comes out - I have tested the newer clients including v15.0, but they always crash to desktop immediately after detecting the GPUs - This doesn't happen with v10 or v11 - Updating nVidia drivers to latest version / CUDA version makes no difference - Phoenix miner is even worse for me (individual GPUs crash very frequently)
Anyone with similar experience / solution? Your comments will be hugely appreciated. Thanks!
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September 11, 2019, 04:31:27 PM |
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Bumping this. Still need a solution. Hi everyone. I need some help regarding mining with P106.
Rig specs: - 7x Zotac P106, total sightly below 170 Mh/s - Windows 7 64-bit - nVidia driver version 382.53 - Claymore miner version 11.0 (any version newer than this will always crash for me!) - MSI Afterburner version 4.4.2 - Virtual memory sufficiently high
Current situation: - Been running this setup for past ~2 years with very few issues - I've paid thousands of USD in fees to Claymore since the beginning - Happy with performance, consistency and stability - It's working fine right now
Problem: - I am being forced to abandon v11.0 and install v15.0 once DAG #299 comes out - I have tested the newer clients including v15.0, but they always crash to desktop immediately after detecting the GPUs - This doesn't happen with v10 or v11 - Updating nVidia drivers to latest version / CUDA version makes no difference - Phoenix miner is even worse for me (individual GPUs crash very frequently)
Anyone with similar experience / solution? Your comments will be hugely appreciated. Thanks!
Windows 7 goes EOL in a few months... Maybe its time to move to Win10?
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September 11, 2019, 04:57:51 PM Last edit: September 13, 2019, 06:46:43 AM by bategojko74 |
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature: 'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following. This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor. Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C. So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C). I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.' I saw that site/link too when I did some searching about. So high temps are probably ok, but 90C+ still seems pretty high even if Tj Max is 105 C. However, there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it... Changing fan speeds, etc. doesn't lower the temp. It shoots up over 80C pretty much as soon as the miner starts. I guess the only thing would be to reduce mining intensity. That being said, the miner ran all night (8 hours) without a hiccup or throttling. So as long as the temps aren't going to kill the mem long term, maybe they can handle it. you can control GPU HBM temperature indirectly by passing very low -tt such as -tt 54 or -tt 53 and -fanmin 54 for an instance. Tried those. Fans spin faster, core comes down a few deg, mem comes down a couple deg, but still 90C. Also tried -ethi 2, HBM temp showed 84C, but obviously speed was reduced too... 45 and 47Mh/s So, perhaps it's a design flaw with the Sapphire Pulse heat sink/cooler. Try phoenix miner with the following settings: : -ethi 8 -tt 54 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2 I make 52.65MH/s with 93 watts powerdraw and gpu hbm temperature 70 degree C. You can try with higher -tt to decrease the fan speed. 54 works for sure and is too safe.
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September 11, 2019, 08:27:58 PM |
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Bumping this. Still need a solution. Hi everyone. I need some help regarding mining with P106.
Rig specs: - 7x Zotac P106, total sightly below 170 Mh/s - Windows 7 64-bit - nVidia driver version 382.53 - Claymore miner version 11.0 (any version newer than this will always crash for me!) - MSI Afterburner version 4.4.2 - Virtual memory sufficiently high
Current situation: - Been running this setup for past ~2 years with very few issues - I've paid thousands of USD in fees to Claymore since the beginning - Happy with performance, consistency and stability - It's working fine right now
Problem: - I am being forced to abandon v11.0 and install v15.0 once DAG #299 comes out - I have tested the newer clients including v15.0, but they always crash to desktop immediately after detecting the GPUs - This doesn't happen with v10 or v11 - Updating nVidia drivers to latest version / CUDA version makes no difference - Phoenix miner is even worse for me (individual GPUs crash very frequently)
Anyone with similar experience / solution? Your comments will be hugely appreciated. Thanks!
How much actual RAM do you have in your system? I've had this issue before years ago and when I added more GPUs it wouldn't work for some reason. I tried everything like increasing the virtual memory and still didn't work, then as a last resort I added more RAM and the issue was fixed. So try adding more ram and see if it goes away. If you don't want to add RAM then remove a GPU or 2 and see if the problem is fixed. For some weird reason even though the DAG pagefile is identical, you need more RAM to load it on the GPUs. If this doesn't work then try another OS. Basically Win10 is a pain, especially on old CPUs but usually the drivers and miners work best in Win10. If Win10 doesn't work then try Ubuntu and if that doesn't work then I have no idea what the issue is.
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September 12, 2019, 10:21:20 PM |
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19.9.2 is out. I hate playing driver roulette but I have some stability issues in 14.7 so I might take it for a spin.
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September 13, 2019, 04:28:44 AM |
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How much actual RAM do you have in your system? I've had this issue before years ago and when I added more GPUs it wouldn't work for some reason. I tried everything like increasing the virtual memory and still didn't work, then as a last resort I added more RAM and the issue was fixed. So try adding more ram and see if it goes away.
If you don't want to add RAM then remove a GPU or 2 and see if the problem is fixed. For some weird reason even though the DAG pagefile is identical, you need more RAM to load it on the GPUs.
If this doesn't work then try another OS. Basically Win10 is a pain, especially on old CPUs but usually the drivers and miners work best in Win10. If Win10 doesn't work then try Ubuntu and if that doesn't work then I have no idea what the issue is.
thanks a lot for the suggestions! I have 8GB RAM with a 64GB pagefile. Will try adding more RAM tomorrow and see how it goes.
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September 13, 2019, 05:35:47 AM |
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Theoritically, you can put Four Reference cards Navi in MSI X570 Godlike. My current tower cooler blocks the first GPU slot. Waiting on 3950X before actually putting the bonus MasterLiquid AIO from MSI X570's promotions. Anyway, I tried with three GPUS (one custom AIO cooled, two reference coolers) and it works just fine. Their temps are not catastrophic either; With fan speeds less than 50% (therefore noise is tame), the GPU temps are around 65-75 oC, with memory junction temp around 90 oC. https://youtu.be/IDsYGdhxayAAfter 3950X is here, I will get one of that and another reference card 5700 and my goal of having four GPUs in one motherboard will be achieved. For now the RX 5700 yiels around 48-49 Mh/S each with maximum GPU temps around 70 oC with memory temps around 90 oC, with fans running below 40 %. This RX 5700 reference design is just great for me.
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