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December 09, 2017, 11:03:48 PM
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Would love those numbers..

Still shows me that i needs more time on youtube learning to trade

To be honest I've only been trading for about a month and not full time. I spent a couple of weeks trading manually in my spare time on bittrex before I got leonardo, then I spent a few days trying to figure out how to do it all with leonardo - with a mixture of small successes followed by bigger losses - overall it was losing money. I then kind of gave up, but part of the problem was my terrible internet connection which kept stalling things.

I've since set LeonArdo up on a VPS and things are much better, so I've put some more time in to try and figure a working strategy out and it seems to be paying off. So my point is 6 weeks ago I didn't have a clue about any of this, so it's totally possible to get there. It's not a set-and-forget situation though, it requires lots of time, effort and research to figure out the best combination of pairs/strategies etc.

my latest figures are 9.30% after 34 hours continuous trading on 6 pairs/bots, (or 6.7% per 24hr). I've analysed the data from the trades over that time and identified the weak pairs and am tweaking the settings in the hope to make the weak ones do better. If that doesn't work I will replace them with others and see how that goes.

Best of luck, and if you have any questions about what I've learned in the last few weeks that you think might help, feel free to ask.
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December 10, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
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Would love those numbers..

Still shows me that i needs more time on youtube learning to trade

To be honest I've only been trading for about a month and not full time. I spent a couple of weeks trading manually in my spare time on bittrex before I got leonardo, then I spent a few days trying to figure out how to do it all with leonardo - with a mixture of small successes followed by bigger losses - overall it was losing money. I then kind of gave up, but part of the problem was my terrible internet connection which kept stalling things.

I've since set LeonArdo up on a VPS and things are much better, so I've put some more time in to try and figure a working strategy out and it seems to be paying off. So my point is 6 weeks ago I didn't have a clue about any of this, so it's totally possible to get there. It's not a set-and-forget situation though, it requires lots of time, effort and research to figure out the best combination of pairs/strategies etc.

my latest figures are 9.30% after 34 hours continuous trading on 6 pairs/bots, (or 6.7% per 24hr). I've analysed the data from the trades over that time and identified the weak pairs and am tweaking the settings in the hope to make the weak ones do better. If that doesn't work I will replace them with others and see how that goes.

Best of luck, and if you have any questions about what I've learned in the last few weeks that you think might help, feel free to ask.

Thank you for your kind words.

I will look into a good vps..and see if I can get this puppy running on linux.
Good to see that I only need to tweek my settings to have crypto fun.
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December 10, 2017, 11:52:42 AM
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Hi guys,

we are spread a little thin on support this weekend but will answer your questions later today!
Thanks for your support.

All the best,

  Rene

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December 10, 2017, 12:53:30 PM
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Is there plans to add 1, 5 and 15 minute graphs?
Also when I hover the mouse over a time block on the graph there used to be a pop-up window showing opening, high and low and volume for the block but now nothing shows?
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Is there plans to add 1, 5 and 15 minute graphs?
Also when I hover the mouse over a time block on the graph there used to be a pop-up window showing opening, high and low and volume for the block but now nothing shows?

We have those! The smallest candles are 1 minute candles found in our 30 Minute view.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

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My 24hr average went down to 3.5% this morning due to a couple of pairs that were making very low gains and then a net loss. I've cut those two and replaced them with two that seem much better and 24hr average is steadily climbing back up, now at 4.92%

What is becoming clear to me is that this software can work very well, but it requires a fair amount of time and effort to learn how all the different parameters interact (not surprising - as with anything really) but also quite a bit of analysis of the trading data in order to cull pairs that are not doing well and optimise the ones that are doing well. To this end I have been logging all trade data in a spreadsheet (periodically) over the last 48 hours so I can make such analyses.

It's been quite a lot of effort, which is fine for now laying the groundwork, but it seems it would be fairly straightforward (in theory - I know you guys are very busy) to add some statistics for each trading pair to get an idea of how they are performing over time - eg net gain/loss per each pair (either all-time or the last N-trades/72 hours or something) which pairs have a high percentage of loss trades etc. This is essentially what I've done in my spreadsheet but it would be so useful if it was built in.

Also a way to see at a glance when inputting amounts to trade with - how much that is worth in BTC (or as a percentage of available BTC). A the moment I have to go back to Bittrex, see how much BTC is available to trade with, divide by the number of pairs Im working with and then figure out how much that BTC is worth in each particular pair. It's quite convoluted and makes it hard to hold an overview of what's really going on at a glance. Again something that would be fairly straightforward to put in the app somewhere. I know you have the wallet overview window but it's not very intuitive and there are no tooltips to clarify what each column actually is.

I'm still really happy with the software on the whole, just wanted to point out some areas for improvement Wink
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Is there plans to add 1, 5 and 15 minute graphs?
Also when I hover the mouse over a time block on the graph there used to be a pop-up window showing opening, high and low and volume for the block but now nothing shows?

We have those! The smallest candles are 1 minute candles found in our 30 Minute view.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Hi Jonathon, sorry my question was not clear, will you be adding a 1, 5 and 15 minute view in the future like the exchanges have?
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December 10, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
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My 24hr average went down to 3.5% this morning due to a couple of pairs that were making very low gains and then a net loss. I've cut those two and replaced them with two that seem much better and 24hr average is steadily climbing back up, now at 4.92%

What is becoming clear to me is that this software can work very well, but it requires a fair amount of time and effort to learn how all the different parameters interact (not surprising - as with anything really) but also quite a bit of analysis of the trading data in order to cull pairs that are not doing well and optimise the ones that are doing well. To this end I have been logging all trade data in a spreadsheet (periodically) over the last 48 hours so I can make such analyses.

It's been quite a lot of effort, which is fine for now laying the groundwork, but it seems it would be fairly straightforward (in theory - I know you guys are very busy) to add some statistics for each trading pair to get an idea of how they are performing over time - eg net gain/loss per each pair (either all-time or the last N-trades/72 hours or something) which pairs have a high percentage of loss trades etc. This is essentially what I've done in my spreadsheet but it would be so useful if it was built in.

Also a way to see at a glance when inputting amounts to trade with - how much that is worth in BTC (or as a percentage of available BTC). A the moment I have to go back to Bittrex, see how much BTC is available to trade with, divide by the number of pairs Im working with and then figure out how much that BTC is worth in each particular pair. It's quite convoluted and makes it hard to hold an overview of what's really going on at a glance. Again something that would be fairly straightforward to put in the app somewhere. I know you have the wallet overview window but it's not very intuitive and there are no tooltips to clarify what each column actually is.

I'm still really happy with the software on the whole, just wanted to point out some areas for improvement Wink

Do you make youtube video's..I would love to hear your explain the basics.
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December 10, 2017, 03:54:42 PM
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Hey team. Only a few days left till end of year. Is the next release still on target Smiley

Hi mafia,

great to hear from you! Smiley
Yes. The release is on target and we are looking forward to the release next week.

All the best,

  Rene

Will you include stop loss feature to PingPong and to manual trading also?  I have read in previous posts that it was requested many times.
Best regards.

We are developing a new strategy framework right now for the release next week.
Stay tuned Wink

All the best,

  Rene

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December 10, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
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I've noticed that when getting the run-time error, that many people here seem to report, the program will crash immediately after the login if you choose continue last session. But if you select the last exchange you were using, it works fine.

I do have a wish list item though - it would be great if we could export reports into excel. Specifically, I'd be looking to get reports of all trades over a certain period to see what my gains/losses are. I can get some of this from my exchange platform itself, but it would be great to specify time period, trading pairs, etc.
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December 10, 2017, 05:46:04 PM
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GReat bot so far! Waiting for update.

Anyways, any chance to add Binance exchange ? I think most of your clients would love to try a bot out there with small amounts before going any further with fear Cheesy
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December 10, 2017, 05:59:34 PM
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My 24hr average went down to 3.5% this morning due to a couple of pairs that were making very low gains and then a net loss. I've cut those two and replaced them with two that seem much better an......

Do you make youtube video's..I would love to hear your explain the basics.

haha, to be honest I'm only getting my head around the basics myself, but I'm getting there. I did actually think of making some youtube videos - I had such a hassle setting up a VPS to run LeonArdo that I've started making a video to show how to do that. Watch this space and I'll try to get something up soon....
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December 10, 2017, 09:10:32 PM
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My 24hr average went down to 3.5% this morning due to a couple of pairs that were making very low gains and then a net loss. I've cut those two and replaced them with two that seem much better and 24hr average is steadily climbing back up, now at 4.92%

What is becoming clear to me is that this software can work very well, but it requires a fair amount of time and effort to learn how all the different parameters interact (not surprising - as with anything really) but also quite a bit of analysis of the trading data in order to cull pairs that are not doing well and optimise the ones that are doing well. To this end I have been logging all trade data in a spreadsheet (periodically) over the last 48 hours so I can make such analyses.

It's been quite a lot of effort, which is fine for now laying the groundwork, but it seems it would be fairly straightforward (in theory - I know you guys are very busy) to add some statistics for each trading pair to get an idea of how they are performing over time - eg net gain/loss per each pair (either all-time or the last N-trades/72 hours or something) which pairs have a high percentage of loss trades etc. This is essentially what I've done in my spreadsheet but it would be so useful if it was built in.

Also a way to see at a glance when inputting amounts to trade with - how much that is worth in BTC (or as a percentage of available BTC). A the moment I have to go back to Bittrex, see how much BTC is available to trade with, divide by the number of pairs Im working with and then figure out how much that BTC is worth in each particular pair. It's quite convoluted and makes it hard to hold an overview of what's really going on at a glance. Again something that would be fairly straightforward to put in the app somewhere. I know you have the wallet overview window but it's not very intuitive and there are no tooltips to clarify what each column actually is.

I'm still really happy with the software on the whole, just wanted to point out some areas for improvement Wink

Thanks for your feedback and support! We are looking into more reporting and monitoring features and it will likely find it's way into the product Smiley

All the best,

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December 10, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
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GReat bot so far! Waiting for update.

Anyways, any chance to add Binance exchange ? I think most of your clients would love to try a bot out there with small amounts before going any further with fear Cheesy

Hi,

there are other exchanges higher on the list, but we will keep it in mind Smiley

All the best,

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I've noticed that when getting the run-time error, that many people here seem to report, the program will crash immediately after the login if you choose continue last session. But if you select the last exchange you were using, it works fine.

I do have a wish list item though - it would be great if we could export reports into excel. Specifically, I'd be looking to get reports of all trades over a certain period to see what my gains/losses are. I can get some of this from my exchange platform itself, but it would be great to specify time period, trading pairs, etc.

Hi,

we are looking into better reporting and monitoring features. We will take a more detailed look at this after the release next week!

EDIT: Is the behavior you described above repeatable? If yes could you send the logs to support@marginsoftware.de? Thanks!

All the best,

  Rene

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I have another suggestion or feature request. Which might actually be a cool/handy feature on its own (and can probably "adapted to the actual bots" too.. dunno Wink).

I want to be able to create spread orders.

Say i want to have 6 buy orders volume N each, starting at value X going down Y steps in price:

So i want it to create a buy order at X,
another one at X + (Y*1), next one on X + (Y*2), next on X + (Y*3)..... and so on.

The same for the Sell orders, start at X and then step up Y each time.

Maybe adittionally one can enter a maximum volume he want to order and set a slider to see how much this will make for how many orders and so on.  That would actually btw fit very well on the margin maker and he pingpong bot and make them able to profit from bigger swings where you would loose some gains probably otherwise. Wink

What you you guys think? Wink)

Greetings

hacky



Edit:
P.s.: It might probably make sense, in such a separate manual spread-trading strategy tab, to actually have some sort of a switch, so that a user can enter a fixed amount of order volume spitted by the amount of orders, or volume per order for all orders (then in a separate field).

So a user can then switch to the mode he wants (volume overall/volume per order) and then simply adjust the according value in the interface. The corresponding other Max/MaxPerOrder field can then automatically actualized whenever the corresponding other gets changed.

There you even can put your nice volume slider from the usual sell/buy orders on the manual trading strategy. would be a nice feature Wink

Oh and you simply can make sure, that the "per order" slider never goes down the min order size limit .. and even count that up for the over all volume slider (adapted with the number of wanted orders).

We love it! Already talked internally about something similar before Smiley Especially because you could configure it with leonArdo visually in the graph. So many cool ideas, thanks guys.

All the best,

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I've noticed that when getting the run-time error, that many people here seem to report, the program will crash immediately after the login if you choose continue last session. But if you select the last exchange you were using, it works fine.

I do have a wish list item though - it would be great if we could export reports into excel. Specifically, I'd be looking to get reports of all trades over a certain period to see what my gains/losses are. I can get some of this from my exchange platform itself, but it would be great to specify time period, trading pairs, etc.

Hi,

we are looking into better reporting and monitoring features. We will take a more detailed look at this after the release next week!

EDIT: Is the behavior you described above repeatable? If yes could you send the logs to support@marginsoftware.de? Thanks!

All the best,

  Rene

I haven't figured out a rhyme or reason to the original run-time error. Where do I locate the logs files normally?
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I really like this bot and i have made my money back and then some. But I have struggled to keep the bot running consistently, mainly because my ping pongs always break out of the range ive got setup.

Have you guys found the margin maker to be a better setup then the ping pong?

Also is there a way to get some indicators loaded? I am interested in setting up a bot based off indicators.

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December 11, 2017, 02:46:12 AM
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I really like this bot and i have made my money back and then some. But I have struggled to keep the bot running consistently, mainly because my ping pongs always break out of the range ive got setup.

Have you guys found the margin maker to be a better setup then the ping pong?

Also is there a way to get some indicators loaded? I am interested in setting up a bot based off indicators.

From my experience, the ping-pong bot is good when the market is horizontal. However, since currently we are seeing lots of ups and downs for most currencies, I'd go with the mArgin Maker. It can better adjust itself to this scenario, and if you setup (and accept) a slight negative gain, it will adapt even better (for instance, it can trade at a loss a few times, expecting higher gains when the market swings up again).

Regarding bots based on indicators, the developers are working hard on that, and according to their posts here, we should expect them soon.
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December 11, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
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I've noticed that when getting the run-time error, that many people here seem to report, the program will crash immediately after the login if you choose continue last session. But if you select the last exchange you were using, it works fine.

I do have a wish list item though - it would be great if we could export reports into excel. Specifically, I'd be looking to get reports of all trades over a certain period to see what my gains/losses are. I can get some of this from my exchange platform itself, but it would be great to specify time period, trading pairs, etc.

Hi,

we are looking into better reporting and monitoring features. We will take a more detailed look at this after the release next week!

EDIT: Is the behavior you described above repeatable? If yes could you send the logs to support@marginsoftware.de? Thanks!

All the best,

  Rene

I haven't figured out a rhyme or reason to the original run-time error. Where do I locate the logs files normally?

The log files (.log) are located in the leonardo directory in your home folder.

All the best,

  Rene

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