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Author Topic: [UPDATE] RX480 (Ref) 31+Mh, Custom Rom - VDDC OFFSET + Custom timing  (Read 230966 times)
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September 25, 2016, 01:51:15 AM
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Not sure, you get more speed at lower power on a custom rom with some tweaking.

No, you will not get 180MHs at 850-900W from the wall

This was for single mining Eth only. Not dual mining. And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

Edit: I'm still waiting on a wall socket power meter to get a better grasp of entire system draw. But based on my current setup for 1 RX480 I still think it would be possible. 78.6w for the GPU. I don't know exactly how much extra the rest of the card is drawing. But assuming it's about 40w(Why would it be more? Even 40w is probably way over the real value. RAM and VRM use no way near the power the GPU does). Then 6 x 120~ is 720w. Add a mobo, CPU(low clocked dual core Celeron) some RAM, a few fans and an efficient Titanium PSU rated over 1000w(You get more efficiency at 40~60% PSU load, so for 800~900w a 1600w EVGA Titanium would be best). I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less. But maybe not so common as I originally stated Cheesy


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September 25, 2016, 03:30:07 AM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



i'll prove you wrong in a few months when I have 5 more RX480  Grin

I have a rig = 6 X Sapphires 480s on 1300w EVGA-G2 drawing about 1150-1200watts total at stock roms.

I recently applied Heliox lowpower 29Mhs rom with Crimson 16.9.1, and it should be below 1000w (fingers crossed, since this was my intention by using the mod roms - objective to achieve sub-1000w)

I will take a reading from a kill-o-watt meter to be sure.


What MOBO are you running them on? I have been trying to run 5 to 6 cards on a single board but keep getting "not able to start device" on my 5th cards onward. On my 4th card everything works fine.

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September 25, 2016, 06:46:50 AM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



i'll prove you wrong in a few months when I have 5 more RX480  Grin

I have a rig = 6 X Sapphires 480s on 1300w EVGA-G2 drawing about 1150-1200watts total at stock roms.

I recently applied Heliox lowpower 29Mhs rom with Crimson 16.9.1, and it should be below 1000w (fingers crossed, since this was my intention by using the mod roms - objective to achieve sub-1000w)

I will take a reading from a kill-o-watt meter to be sure.


What MOBO are you running them on? I have been trying to run 5 to 6 cards on a single board but keep getting "not able to start device" on my 5th cards onward. On my 4th card everything works fine.

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Win10 should be able to see all your cards - all 6 of them.
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September 25, 2016, 08:17:05 AM
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Hi guys thank you for your hard work.

I got 6 Rx480 doing good with 25M/s each average using genoil 1.1.6

I decided to go with the custom roms ( RX480-32MhOTB )
First i update to the last drivers 16.9.2, then i flashed all one by one... reinitialised wattman settings
Then i finnaly started to mine... at the begining it was awesome 30-31 M/s.... and then going down down actually downer than without custom rom and used more W at the plug 960 W... for 23-24 M/s

before updating custom bios i was at 25M/s for 850 W

so i go back to my backup one for now...

If anyone got advice or already got this problem ?

tryed with claymore and -ethi 16... start everything at 31M/s but then go to 24-23 M/s.....

thank you for reading

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September 25, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
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Hi guys thank you for your hard work.

I got 6 Rx480 doing good with 25M/s each average using genoil 1.1.6

I decided to go with the custom roms ( RX480-32MhOTB )
First i update to the last drivers 16.9.2, then i flashed all one by one... reinitialised wattman settings
Then i finnaly started to mine... at the begining it was awesome 30-31 M/s.... and then going down down actually downer than without custom rom and used more W at the plug 960 W... for 23-24 M/s

before updating custom bios i was at 25M/s for 850 W

so i go back to my backup one for now...

If anyone got advice or already got this problem ?

tryed with claymore and -ethi 16... start everything at 31M/s but then go to 24-23 M/s.....

thank you for reading



Try the 31mh low power BIOS. IMO it's the best trade off of power usage and hashrate. Though, TBH, I'm actually using my own BIOS now as it's reduced power usage even more on my solitary 480.
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September 25, 2016, 08:46:54 AM
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Hi guys thank you for your hard work.

I got 6 Rx480 doing good with 25M/s each average using genoil 1.1.6

I decided to go with the custom roms ( RX480-32MhOTB )
First i update to the last drivers 16.9.2, then i flashed all one by one... reinitialised wattman settings
Then i finnaly started to mine... at the begining it was awesome 30-31 M/s.... and then going down down actually downer than without custom rom and used more W at the plug 960 W... for 23-24 M/s

before updating custom bios i was at 25M/s for 850 W

so i go back to my backup one for now...

If anyone got advice or already got this problem ?

tryed with claymore and -ethi 16... start everything at 31M/s but then go to 24-23 M/s.....

thank you for reading



Maybe check temperature/cooling, the clock goes down when you reach the limit.
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September 25, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
Last edit: September 25, 2016, 09:59:11 AM by samosan
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thank you guys for your fast answers :-)

@Walrusbonzo => yeah i will try this one and check how much power from the wall
@lexele => Thank you so much lol i can't believe i didnt thought about this lol omg.... of course so obvious!!!! i m so lame lol thank you again :-)

Ok now 187 M/s but for 1285 W... lol ok i will go to the low power one :-)
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September 25, 2016, 10:13:07 AM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



7 Rigs by 6x480 Red Devil each rig 870W at the wall with CM v1000 psu, working stable for almost a week(6*29.7mh=~178mh). If i try to make personal settings for each card i will probabaly kill another 50-80W per rig but i'm too lazy for that.

Here two of them:

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Last edit: September 25, 2016, 11:41:22 AM by Walrusbonzo
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



7 Rigs by 6x480 Red Devil each rig 870W at the wall with CM v1000 psu, working stable for almost a week(6*29.7mh=~178mh). If i try to make personal settings for each card i will probabaly kill another 50-80W per rig but i'm too lazy for that.

Here two of them:


Nice!!! I knew it would be possible. What is the full spec of these rigs?

Also, just for reference, what is the GPU power draw for these cards according to GPUz or MSI AB?

EDIT: I've seen you have added an image with GPUz, thanks! Smiley Super low VDDC is the way forward for low power usage.
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September 25, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



I am mining 180 mhash 850-900 watt stable for a week now...  Grin
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September 25, 2016, 11:36:29 AM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



I am mining 180 mhash 850-900 watt stable for a week now...  Grin

What is your full system spec? What have you got VDDC set to on your GFX cards? What does GPU only power draw show in GPUz or MSI AB?

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September 25, 2016, 01:32:28 PM
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Couple of posts with challenging provoking statements - and we are there: 180MHs at <900W Smiley

Great job!

I second the question on rig specs, especially cards infor (memory type, ASIC quality)

If possible settings for mods or ROM
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little testing of my new reference rx470 4gb ))
first card in the miner - ref rx470 4 gb, second - crappy red dragon rx480 8gb samsung mem without cooling ((
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little testing of my new reference rx470 4gb ))

Could you please upload WattTool somewhere and share the link? Overclockers asked to register for it
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Could you please upload WattTool somewhere and share the link? Overclockers asked to register for it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4flkNGCHIGFTXJsQjRoeHQ5ZkE/view?usp=sharing
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Could you please upload WattTool somewhere and share the link? Overclockers asked to register for it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4flkNGCHIGFTXJsQjRoeHQ5ZkE/view?usp=sharing

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assuming that this wattTool is not part of Wattman?

Can this WattTool reduce -mV like AfterBurner?

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assuming that this wattTool is not part of Wattman?

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Can this WattTool reduce -mV like AfterBurner?

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September 25, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
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And I'm certain it would be possible with a titanium efficient PSU.

No - it would not be

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I can definitely see power draw from the wall at around 900w, and less.

You will not get 900W from wall hashing with 6 RX 480 with rate of 180MHs



I am mining 180 mhash 850-900 watt stable for a week now...  Grin

Can you confirm it is from the wall for the whole system. It is not calculated or estimated from the GPUZ.

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September 25, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
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I have 2 x rig with 6 RX 480
No1 hashing 181.5-182 MH/s the whole system is pulling 870-890 Watts at the wall
No2 hashing 178-178.5 MH/s the whole system is pulling 870 watts at the wall

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