Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[eve]

300 pages and I have only one question. Is there a single working KNC miner in existence? 

So to repeat myself after 100 pages, any working KNC miner ASIC yet?

Nothing, right now, nothing to show or proof

[-Redacted-]

300 pages and I have only one question. Is there a single working KNC miner in existence? 

So to repeat myself after 100 pages, any working KNC miner ASIC yet?

No, and never expected to be before mid-September.

[FUKT]

Think they may already be sold out 

Hmm maybe, although they do have about 2500 saturns for sale.

Source? FUD?

Just input 9999 into the number of saturns you would like. FUD? I think not.

OK, thanks. Sorry for the FUD suggestion. Jupiters also seem to be  ~2500. Maybe they have 2500 BOXES available. If relevant reply in the speculation forum to not clutter this further.

Thats cool dude.

[vesperwillow]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

[jmevz]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

[FUKT]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

I'm in the same boat as you. Sometimes it does slip through without our GST added on. Good luck!

[Miner538]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

Ghehe   i hope mine as well.

Though what i found strange is when i orderd, i had to include my VAT, bur i diddnt see any change in costs except shipping
A 90 euro. Anyone else who had this?

[FUKT]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

Ghehe   i hope mine as well.

Though what i found strange is when i orderd, i had to include my VAT, bur i diddnt see any change in costs except shipping
A 90 euro. Anyone else who had this?

What country are you ordering to?

[DPoS]

300 pages and I have only one question. Is there a single working KNC miner in existence? 

So to repeat myself after 100 pages, any working KNC miner ASIC yet?

Nope, maybe in 6 months - come back then

[Miner538]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

Ghehe   i hope mine as well.

Though what i found strange is when i orderd, i had to include my VAT, bur i diddnt see any change in costs except shipping
A 90 euro. Anyone else who had this?

What country are you ordering to?

Netherlands

[Biomech]

300 pages and I have only one question. Is there a single working KNC miner in existence? 

So to repeat myself after 100 pages, any working KNC miner ASIC yet?

To repeat about six hundred answers, no.

Though if I had anything to bet, I'd guess that they have working prototypes by now, or they wouldn't be putting solid dates on shipping.

[noodle73]

Just pray KnC won't suffer loses in customs the way Avalon did

You have to include your VAT number at placing an order.
European products are also probably cheaper in taxes than non-european products.

So as an european, i don't worry much about the taxes or customs.
I do wonder for our American friends how this will come out to p(l)ay xD

I'm glad I'm in the US and not paying VAT.. I've seen the VAT costs on these and it makes my brain hurt. The last few times I've taken possession of things from across the pond, the customs fee (if any at all) was only a few percent. Yes, the items cost more than these miners.

Sometimes things get charged custsoms, sometimes they don't, and it's usually not bad at all really. I think the most I've ever paid is 5%.

I hope my unit skips through customs happily

Ghehe   i hope mine as well.

Though what i found strange is when i orderd, i had to include my VAT, bur i diddnt see any change in costs except shipping
A 90 euro. Anyone else who had this?

What country are you ordering to?

Netherlands

Companies shipping to other companies cross border but staying within the EU don't need to levy VAT on each other if the recipient has a valid EU VAT number.
See endless earlier posts about the fact that KnC is treating its customers as business buyers. But when it comes to paying the bill, that's no bad thing as you've found.

[jmw74]

Does anyone have experience with having computers shipped to the US from Europe?  Do they usually get through customs without issue?

I presume KNC's shipping cost to the US (I think it was about $130) included whatever duty fees would ultimately be charged.  I would guess that UPS collects that fee up front?  But I have never had anything shipped from overseas so I don't know how it works.

[Ytterbium]

Whoa, someone just put 15 BTC on Yes >_>



Someone knows something. Think it might be Sam or Andreas? If I were them and I knew we'd be hitting our target, I'd place that bet. Heck ya. That's the whole purpose of an information market, to monetize sharing expectations. And only someone really confident or with insider info is gonna spend $1500... $1950 betting on this

(damn, bitcoin being worth more than $100 is really screwing with my estimated math these days )

Or someone's either a gambling addict or they've got a massive amount of BTC and 15BTC isn't a lot to them.  I would have put more in but right now I'm doing all my bitcoin "gambling" with labcoin stock  Paying off a lot better then this bet will, so far.

I did put in a yes bet earlier when the odds were better.

well KNC has 44 days to get my miner to me. Let the countdown begin

Even if they had working prototype it would be hard to assembly+ship all preordered units in time - look at BFL

Heard of automated manufacturing lines (as opposed to BFL's manual labour crew)?

Actually, my guess would be they're doing manual assembly.  The thing is - unlike what BFL tried to do with insourcing that, there are actually companies out there you can hire to do your box building for you.  Foxconn is the well known example, but companies like that exist everywhere.  Here in the U.S as well as sweeden, I'm sure.

The cost and time to setup an automated line aren't insubstantial, and for a small run of a few hundred to a thousand units it might be cheaper to hire humans to do it, even at sweedish rates.  You can see their system will be quite simple to install.  You just take a metal frame, stick in 2-5 circuit boards (depending on the thing thing) Connect a few wires, and then screw in the heatsinks.  It shouldn't take more then 5 minutes. They don't even need to attach the PSU.

[Paladin69]

A little late to the price drop party.  Was kinda hoping they weren't going to start taking those November pre-orders until they delivered the summer orders.

[Batshit]

More like 6,000 units.  At 5 min/unit and 20 hrs/day (2 full shifts and a half shift), KnC would need ~25 days to build and ship them all.  That is consistent with their press releases.

[ridnovir]

guys I have missed a week or so of this threat and feel too lazy to go through it.

What is the latest news are they shipping yet?

[Phoenix1969]

guys I have missed a week or so of this threat and feel too lazy to go through it.

What is the latest news are they shipping yet?

Digital *Facepalm*
*edit*
OK, I was a bit cranky there...   expect deliveries to begin last week of Sept. 

[DeathAndTaxes]

Please stop quoting eve.  Why?  Why do you do it?  Even if you wanted to post such a masterpiece as calling him a retard do it without quoting his nonsense.

[vesperwillow]

guys I have missed a week or so of this threat and feel too lazy to go through it.

What is the latest news are they shipping yet?

You totally missed it.. all units shipped. We're on generation 3 now. guess you missed the boat.