Bitcoin Forum
November 21, 2017, 04:13:20 PM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.15.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 ... 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 [378] 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 ... 2138 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3009311 times)
Phoenix1969
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


LIR DEV


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
 #7541

This applies to EVERYONE
Yes, the "Paperclip trick" need be employed when not using the MB plug, which sends the on/off signal. Example...On Corsair Power Supplies, you jumper the green pin & any black pin on the 24 pin MB connector. The on/off switch usually only allows the computer to actually send the on/off signal, and this bypasses that, and makes it so the power switch on the back actually turns the power supply on/off. I myself will be snipping the wires a bit from the plug, and wire-nutting them together.
I'm sure there will be hundreds of noobs plugging in their machines & flipping the switch, wondering why their machines wont work, crying DOA on the miner, when this is the problem, but not really a problem at all. Hope this helps alleviate some of that. Good luck.
More info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPWWusHndA

You'd rather hope that KnC would supply at least this info to all buyers as they do say the rigs are plug in and forget them. In fact all info regarding rigs that appears here should at least be emailed to buyers. Not everyone frequents forums after all.
Which brings us back to the Professional vs. Consumer issue, but I agree a bit more info would/should be included when the time comes. Like I said, just trying to alleviate some of that... Smiley


                     ▀▀█████████▀████████████████▄
                        ████▄      ▄████████████████
                     ▄██████▀  ▄  ███████████████████
                  ▄█████████▄████▄███████████████████
                ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
                                               ▀▀███▀
    ▄█▀█       ▄▀  ▄▀▀█  ▄▀   █████████████████▄ ██▀         ▄▀█
   ▄█ ▄▀      ▀█▀ █▀ █▀ ▀█▀  ███████████████████ █▀ ▀▀      ▄▀▄▀
  ▄█    ▄███  █     █   █   ████████████████████  ▄█     ▄▀▀██▀ ▄███
███▄▄▄  █▄▄▄ █▄▄ ▄▄▀   █▄▄ ██████████████████▀▀   █▄▄ ▄▄ █▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄▄
                           ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
                            ▀▀█████████████▄
                                █████████████▄
                                  █████████████▄
                                    ▀███████▀▀▀▀▀
                                      ▀████▀
                                        ▀█▀
LetItRide
                        ▄███████████▄
                       ██  ██████████▄
                     ▄█████████████  ██▄
            ▄▄▀█▄▄▄▄▄████████████████████▄
        ▄▄█▀   ███████████  █████  ████  █
    ▄██████ ▄▄███████████████████████████▀
 ▄▀▀ ██████████████████████████  ████  █
█  ▄███████████▀▀▀█████████████████████
██████████████    ████████▀▀██████  █▀
██████████████▄▄▄██████████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███▀ ▀██████████████████████
██    ███████████████████████
██▄▄██████████████████████████
██████████████▀   ██████████
  █████████████   ▄██████▀▀
     ▀▀██████████████▀▀
         ▀▀██████▀▀
[BTC]▄█████████████▀ ▄█
██            ▄█▀
██          ▄██ ▄█
██ ▄█▄    ▄███  ██
██ ▀███▄ ▄███   ██
██  ▀███████    ██
██    █████     ██
██     ███      ██
██      ▀       ██
██              ██
▀████████████████▀
1511280800
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511280800

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511280800
Reply with quote  #2

1511280800
Report to moderator
1511280800
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511280800

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511280800
Reply with quote  #2

1511280800
Report to moderator
1511280800
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511280800

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511280800
Reply with quote  #2

1511280800
Report to moderator
Join ICO Now Coinlancer is Disrupting the Freelance marketplace!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1511280800
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511280800

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511280800
Reply with quote  #2

1511280800
Report to moderator
Nemo1024
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1554



View Profile WWW
August 28, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
 #7542

I swear by Corsair (hmm, that makes a nice slogan) Smiley
I have used 4 different models in my PCs over time and they operate well at nearly 100% loads, while being quiet at lower loads.

That said, I sent for hosting, so I hope KnC will choose a good one for my miner.

#101Life
Save Donbass

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
gateway
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 547


View Profile WWW
August 28, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
 #7543

3 more days till sept... not much new info..

ImI
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1694



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:21:05 PM
 #7544


You guys remember me of those folks here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18AzodTPG5U
Grix
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 537



View Profile WWW
August 28, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
 #7545

3 more days till sept... not much new info..

I'd say they've given a lot of info actually. Their circuit boards and case are finished, they are just waiting for the chips. And they are currently at fab I think, they're done when they are done, there would be nothing to report until then. Bottom line is that they still say they on track for September delivery, however "not the beginning of September".

Buy High Powered Lasers from BitLasers.com
BTC: 1Fahk2aa4NS4Qds4VDAL4mpNArDEdV2K5K
FUKT
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 433



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
 #7546

Judging from the  1.6 W/GH/s and the posted requirements for power supplies we can extrapolate and get some interesting hash rates of the units. Please correct me if I'm wrong but:

Mercury                   Saturn                    Jupiter
220W 137ghs            440w 275ghs           880w 550ghs         These wattage requirements would be for max.

200w 125ghs            400w 250ghs           800w 500ghs          Maybe overclocked.

187.5w 117ghs         375w 234ghs           750w 468ghs           Sweet spot.

160w 100ghs            320w 200ghs           640w 400ghs          Minumum requirements.

It seems that the output hash rate off the chips will be better than expected.
nightengale
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 560


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
 #7547

I dunno... If they're releasing the power supply specs now, does this mean they have boards hashing? I don't know how it all works or how they would know definitively without having a board in-hand. I could be way off...

Also, the power supplies being less powerful than anticipated -- what does anyone think that means about the chips and their performance, no overclocking really necessary... Will the numbers be that impressive? I'm glad they're moving forward with confidence thusfar...
Phoenix1969
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


LIR DEV


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:45:43 PM
 #7548

Judging from the  1.6 W/GH/s and the posted requirements for power supplies we can extrapolate and get some interesting hash rates of the units. Please correct me if I'm wrong but:

Mercury                   Saturn                    Jupiter
220W 137ghs            440w 275ghs           880w 550ghs         These wattage requirements would be for max.

200w 125ghs            400w 250ghs           800w 500ghs          Maybe overclocked.

187.5w 117ghs         375w 234ghs           750w 468ghs           Sweet spot.

It seems that the output hash rate off the chips will be better than expected.

Excellent observation.... not bad


                     ▀▀█████████▀████████████████▄
                        ████▄      ▄████████████████
                     ▄██████▀  ▄  ███████████████████
                  ▄█████████▄████▄███████████████████
                ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
                                               ▀▀███▀
    ▄█▀█       ▄▀  ▄▀▀█  ▄▀   █████████████████▄ ██▀         ▄▀█
   ▄█ ▄▀      ▀█▀ █▀ █▀ ▀█▀  ███████████████████ █▀ ▀▀      ▄▀▄▀
  ▄█    ▄███  █     █   █   ████████████████████  ▄█     ▄▀▀██▀ ▄███
███▄▄▄  █▄▄▄ █▄▄ ▄▄▀   █▄▄ ██████████████████▀▀   █▄▄ ▄▄ █▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄▄
                           ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
                            ▀▀█████████████▄
                                █████████████▄
                                  █████████████▄
                                    ▀███████▀▀▀▀▀
                                      ▀████▀
                                        ▀█▀
LetItRide
                        ▄███████████▄
                       ██  ██████████▄
                     ▄█████████████  ██▄
            ▄▄▀█▄▄▄▄▄████████████████████▄
        ▄▄█▀   ███████████  █████  ████  █
    ▄██████ ▄▄███████████████████████████▀
 ▄▀▀ ██████████████████████████  ████  █
█  ▄███████████▀▀▀█████████████████████
██████████████    ████████▀▀██████  █▀
██████████████▄▄▄██████████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███▀ ▀██████████████████████
██    ███████████████████████
██▄▄██████████████████████████
██████████████▀   ██████████
  █████████████   ▄██████▀▀
     ▀▀██████████████▀▀
         ▀▀██████▀▀
[BTC]▄█████████████▀ ▄█
██            ▄█▀
██          ▄██ ▄█
██ ▄█▄    ▄███  ██
██ ▀███▄ ▄███   ██
██  ▀███████    ██
██    █████     ██
██     ███      ██
██      ▀       ██
██              ██
▀████████████████▀
soy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1134


Crypterium - Digital Mobile Cryptobank For Everyon


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:57:26 PM
 #7549

Can you hear me yet?



Aug 28, 2013

ASICMiner Blade Prices Reduced 65% After Shares Crash

"There are several factors that influenced this price cut. The network hash rate has continued to increase exponentially as companies bring their ASIC Mining power online. The difficulty has increased from 37 million when these were first announced to over 66 million currently, reducing customer’s return by 78% without even factoring future difficulty increases."



LOL I would not buy a KNC for Oct even if KNC cut their price by 65%.. Not worth it and will not make but $300 to $900 ROI over the next year after the Break Even..  If that much..



You guys have still not figured out that you are mining for the ASIC compines and paying them what you mine for the price of you ASIC..  


Mind Blown..


I still haven't figured out what the hell that means...or more importantly why it's here? We don't care that you doubt KnC and you already told us several times that you weren't buying one so what is your point? We should all cancel because you think so?
Or perhaps you intended a positive post and forgot to include the details of the company offering rigs that will make us rich for years to come guaranteed?

Don't go to Norway, they have a guy hunting huge trolls.
Okay, you're probably correct that it's in the wrong thread but when I first encountered the idea a light went on and I agreed.  Pre-ordered BFL and calculations of what it could earn, all smiles.  Time marches on.  Difficulty rises.  Many older devices now won't see ROI and some threat that even pre-ordered devices won't see a ROI.  Some calculation showing just break even when returns goes to almost zero.  That's what working for the manufacturer idea is about.  If you mine a year and it just pays itself off then there's only a trickle coming in, that year of work went to the cost of the miner, that year of work went to the manufacturer of the device.  It was a bit disheartening.  But yes, probably the wrong thread as these devices should see a ROI.



░░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄
░░░░░░▄███████████▄
░░░░▄██▀▀░░░░░░░░▀██▄
░░░██▀░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄░░░░▀██
░░██▀░░▄██▀▀▀▀▀░░▄▄
██▀░░██▀░░▄▄▄▄░░▀▀
██▀░░██░░▄██▀▀▀█▄
██░░██░░██▀
██░░▀▀░░██
██░░▄▄░░██
██░░██░░██▄
██▄░░██░░▀██▄▄▄█▀
██▄░░██▄░░▀▀▀▀░░▄▄
░░██▄░░▀██▄▄▄▄▄░░▀▀
░░░██▄░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀░░░░▄██
░░░░▀██▄▄░░░░░░░░▄██▀
░░░░░░▀███████████▀
░░░░░░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀


░░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄
░░░░░░▄███████████▄
░░░░▄██▀▀░░░░░░░░▀██▄
░░░██▀░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄░░░░▀██
░░██▀░░▄██▀▀▀▀▀░░▄▄
██▀░░██▀░░▄▄▄▄░░▀▀
██▀░░██░░▄██▀▀▀█▄
██░░██░░██▀
██░░▀▀░░██
██░░▄▄░░██
██░░██░░██▄
██▄░░██░░▀██▄▄▄█▀
██▄░░██▄░░▀▀▀▀░░▄▄
░░██▄░░▀██▄▄▄▄▄░░▀▀
░░░██▄░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀░░░░▄██
░░░░▀██▄▄░░░░░░░░▄██▀
░░░░░░▀███████████▀
░░░░░░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀

▀  Twitter
▀  Telegram
▀  Facebook
▀  ANN Thread
▀  Whitepaper
▀  Website
Phoenix1969
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


LIR DEV


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 09:58:36 PM
 #7550

Remember that each unit has one Linux device, which accounts for the power difference (Mr. FUKT)


                     ▀▀█████████▀████████████████▄
                        ████▄      ▄████████████████
                     ▄██████▀  ▄  ███████████████████
                  ▄█████████▄████▄███████████████████
                ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
                                               ▀▀███▀
    ▄█▀█       ▄▀  ▄▀▀█  ▄▀   █████████████████▄ ██▀         ▄▀█
   ▄█ ▄▀      ▀█▀ █▀ █▀ ▀█▀  ███████████████████ █▀ ▀▀      ▄▀▄▀
  ▄█    ▄███  █     █   █   ████████████████████  ▄█     ▄▀▀██▀ ▄███
███▄▄▄  █▄▄▄ █▄▄ ▄▄▀   █▄▄ ██████████████████▀▀   █▄▄ ▄▄ █▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄▄
                           ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
                            ▀▀█████████████▄
                                █████████████▄
                                  █████████████▄
                                    ▀███████▀▀▀▀▀
                                      ▀████▀
                                        ▀█▀
LetItRide
                        ▄███████████▄
                       ██  ██████████▄
                     ▄█████████████  ██▄
            ▄▄▀█▄▄▄▄▄████████████████████▄
        ▄▄█▀   ███████████  █████  ████  █
    ▄██████ ▄▄███████████████████████████▀
 ▄▀▀ ██████████████████████████  ████  █
█  ▄███████████▀▀▀█████████████████████
██████████████    ████████▀▀██████  █▀
██████████████▄▄▄██████████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███▀ ▀██████████████████████
██    ███████████████████████
██▄▄██████████████████████████
██████████████▀   ██████████
  █████████████   ▄██████▀▀
     ▀▀██████████████▀▀
         ▀▀██████▀▀
[BTC]▄█████████████▀ ▄█
██            ▄█▀
██          ▄██ ▄█
██ ▄█▄    ▄███  ██
██ ▀███▄ ▄███   ██
██  ▀███████    ██
██    █████     ██
██     ███      ██
██      ▀       ██
██              ██
▀████████████████▀
FUKT
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 433



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:01:47 PM
 #7551

Remember that each unit has one Linux device, which accounts for the power difference (Mr. FUKT)

Hmmm yeah, I dont think I'll put too much thought into it now. I'll let everyone drool over those insane potential hash rates.

EDIT Youre right, I forgot about the peripherals.
Bitcoinorama
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 532



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
 #7552

Profectus minare utiliter

Anything in Latin is just going to sound better.

In years to come, when future archeologists dig up the remains of cities wiped out by skynet, it'll confuse the crap out of historians to discover the Romans were hashing virtual coins way before fraction reserve banking existed! Grin

Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful Smiley BTC Address --->
1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp
btceic
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392


♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫


View Profile WWW
August 28, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
 #7553

Judging from the  1.6 W/GH/s and the posted requirements for power supplies we can extrapolate and get some interesting hash rates of the units. Please correct me if I'm wrong but:

Mercury                   Saturn                    Jupiter
220W 137ghs            440w 275ghs           880w 550ghs         These wattage requirements would be for max.

200w 125ghs            400w 250ghs           800w 500ghs          Maybe overclocked.

187.5w 117ghs         375w 234ghs           750w 468ghs           Sweet spot.

160w 100ghs            320w 200ghs           640w 400ghs          Minumum requirements.

It seems that the output hash rate off the chips will be better than expected.

Can somebody with better math skills then me throw some probabilities at the above?

For instance:
400==100%
468==85%
Etc.

♫ This situation, which side are you on? Are you getting out? Are you dropping bombs? Have you heard of diplomatic resolve? ♫ How To Run A Cheap Full Bitcoin Node For $19 A Year ♫ If I knew where it was, I would take you there. There’s much more than this. ♫ Track Your Bitcoins Value
jimmy3dita
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
 #7554

Before probabilities, I'd count how many of the computed watts become heat instead of hashpower  Undecided

Acquista il mio libro "Investire Bitcoin": clicca qui
superfluouso
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 202


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:29:14 PM
 #7555

I know the contest is most likely over, but it would have been cool if Sam could have hooked up with Notch to do some kind of Minecraft tie in --- being they're both swedish and all..
timmmers
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 336


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:30:11 PM
 #7556

This applies to EVERYONE
Yes, the "Paperclip trick" need be employed when not using the MB plug, which sends the on/off signal. Example...On Corsair Power Supplies, you jumper the green pin & any black pin on the 24 pin MB connector. The on/off switch usually only allows the computer to actually send the on/off signal, and this bypasses that, and makes it so the power switch on the back actually turns the power supply on/off. I myself will be snipping the wires a bit from the plug, and wire-nutting them together.
I'm sure there will be hundreds of noobs plugging in their machines & flipping the switch, wondering why their machines wont work, crying DOA on the miner, when this is the problem, but not really a problem at all. Hope this helps alleviate some of that. Good luck.
More info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPWWusHndA

You'd rather hope that KnC would supply at least this info to all buyers as they do say the rigs are plug in and forget them. In fact all info regarding rigs that appears here should at least be emailed to buyers. Not everyone frequents forums after all.
Which brings us back to the Professional vs. Consumer issue, but I agree a bit more info would/should be included when the time comes. Like I said, just trying to alleviate some of that... Smiley

A paperclip isn't professional, trust me Wink
I'd say it's more amateur vs consumer on this issue. lol
Bitcoinorama
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 532



View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:30:48 PM
 #7557

I know the contest is most likely over, but it would have been cool if Sam could have hooked up with Notch to do some kind of Minecraft tie in --- being they're both swedish and all..

You have tomo at 5.30 from what they said.

Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful Smiley BTC Address --->
1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp
superfluouso
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 202


View Profile
August 28, 2013, 10:42:21 PM
 #7558

I know the contest is most likely over, but it would have been cool if Sam could have hooked up with Notch to do some kind of Minecraft tie in --- being they're both swedish and all..

You have tomo at 5.30 from what they said.

Really? Anyone got ideas?  A Graphic of Steve or a creeper would be sweet but I'm sure there's licensing issues..ummm...

The Other Swedish Minecraft

The Real Swedish Minecraft

I came, I saw, I mined

In the end, you know it's just blocks

Ytterbium
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238



View Profile WWW
August 28, 2013, 11:12:17 PM
 #7559

Remember that each unit has one Linux device, which accounts for the power difference (Mr. FUKT)

Hmmm yeah, I dont think I'll put too much thought into it now. I'll let everyone drool over those insane potential hash rates.

EDIT Youre right, I forgot about the peripherals.

I was assuming it would be an rPI type device.  But it sounds like it'll require, nominally, like 200W and 250W in a jupiter.
 
200+ 200*1 = 400 (Mercury PSU recommendation)
200+ 200*2 = 600 (Saturn PSU recommendation)
210+ 210*4 = 850 (Jupiter PSU recommendation, maybe more W due to more heat)

Hopefully that's just them being cautious, using a 200W chip as a controller would be pretty bonkers.

AussieHash
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 685



View Profile
August 29, 2013, 12:50:35 AM
 #7560

Sorry the inner child couldn't resist since we where on the planetary theme -

"Uranus is next..."

A+ for effort
Pages: « 1 ... 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 [378] 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 ... 2138 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!