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October 20, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
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I have one like that where .96 just keeps 30 cores off.  It's for the best since it will just flap on and off cores if it tries with other FW now

How are you seeing how many cores are disabled?  I thought Burtmod did not work with 0.96.

My Jupiter is consistently around 460-470GH/s no matter which firmware I have used and with the 'enable cores' file loaded in a cold room.  Is that the best its going to get?  It is kind of disappointing.  

Also, why does screen(cgminer) keep crashing back to prompt?  That is a bit annoying.

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When I fuss with my cardboard and fans, I sometimes get a reboot.  Since I run, at the present, without the top, center cardboard cooling the BBB, a 12v fan sitting inside blowing on the left side of the module, another 12v fan outside the case blowing on the right side of the 1 module (Mercury), I added another piece of cardboard to the right of the BBB, to the side and up to the module, taking the air pushed out the side and directing it to the module.  The miner white light came on and off as I moved the fans, perhaps a loose pin in an added fan connector, but it started again right away.  Put Bertmod back but earlier tried the 0.2.1 and found it works well with firmware 0.90, looked at my cores, which I could with the 0.2.1, and earlier their was a single core not up, but now there are four 100% cores and the BertMod says the power change from adding that one core on firmware 0.90 with ~0.9v to the 4 vmr's, was 174 watts with one core down and 180 watts with all cores running.

Nah, that can't be right as (4dies)(48cores)(6watts)=1152 watts.

So, at 100%, 180watts/(4dies)(48cores)=.9275watt/core.

Trying the 0.95 firmware.  Not enthused.  Started off with 4 cores 100% but that soon dropped due to the .7volt output of the vrms.  Pretty quickly 23.95% of my cores became disabled.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that my power at the wall dropped from 268watts to 142watts and with BertMod showing 89watts, my power supply efficiency is about the same, 62.6%.  I might be able to tweak by raising my PCIE voltage.  I wait and see how this settles out.
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October 20, 2013, 04:57:08 PM
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I have one like that where .96 just keeps 30 cores off.  It's for the best since it will just flap on and off cores if it tries with other FW now

How are you seeing how many cores are disabled?  I thought Burtmod did not work with 0.96.

My Jupiter is consistently around 460-470GH/s no matter which firmware I have used and with the 'enable cores' file loaded in a cold room.  Is that the best its going to get?  It is kind of disappointing.  

Also, why does screen(cgminer) keep crashing back to prompt?  That is a bit annoying.

dig out asic_status.pl from bertmod's package and just run something like this:

perl ./asic_status.pl > /www/pages/stat1.html

then you can just hit that page using <yourminerip>/stat1.html


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okay the asic_test thing with .96 didn't work. I am going to swap one of the bad boards with the one jupiter that I am keeping. Then, i could sell the unit. then, i could return the bad board for a good one, abit, i have to pay around 200 for shipping, but whatever. this is more a hobby at this point than profit and roi, unfortunately.
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October 20, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
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When I fuss with my cardboard and fans, I sometimes get a reboot.  Since I run, at the present, without the top, center cardboard cooling the BBB, a 12v fan sitting inside blowing on the left side of the module, another 12v fan outside the case blowing on the right side of the 1 module (Mercury), I added another piece of cardboard to the right of the BBB, to the side and up to the module, taking the air pushed out the side and directing it to the module.  The miner white light came on and off as I moved the fans, perhaps a loose pin in an added fan connector, but it started again right away.  Put Bertmod back but earlier tried the 0.2.1 and found it works well with firmware 0.90, looked at my cores, which I could with the 0.2.1, and earlier their was a single core not up, but now there are four 100% cores and the BertMod says the power change from adding that one core on firmware 0.90 with ~0.9v to the 4 vmr's, was 174 watts with one core down and 180 watts with all cores running.

Nah, that can't be right as (4dies)(48cores)(6watts)=1152 watts.

So, at 100%, 180watts/(4dies)(48cores)=.9275watt/core.

Trying the 0.95 firmware.  Not enthused.  Started off with 4 cores 100% but that soon dropped due to the .7volt output of the vrms.  Pretty quickly 23.95% of my cores became disabled.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that my power at the wall dropped from 268watts to 142watts and with BertMod showing 89watts, my power supply efficiency is about the same, 62.6%.  I might be able to tweak by raising my PCIE voltage.  I wait and see how this settles out.

Wow, not settling out at all.  Back to the failure to reach 100GH/s and it had started out with 100% cores.  I know from experience that adjusting my Vin, for an hour at 10v and later an hour at 12.5 Vin that it doesn't effectively get above 99.5GH/s while pre-0.95 firmware can allow me >130GH/s but at a cost of 162watts more at the wall extra.  So, the 34GH/s more I expect to get will cost me an additional 114% at the wall.  Well, this would be the time to spend that power, maybe not next year when network hashrate will be so high.
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October 20, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
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on another note (totally off -topic)  It's a goood morning...

https://i.imgur.com/ah2LsGh.png

don't even bother to look at Gox, especially if you are located in the US. it's almost impossible to fetch fiat from there.
To get a more balanced estimate of BTC value look at bitstamp et al.

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on another note (totally off -topic)  It's a goood morning...

https://i.imgur.com/ah2LsGh.png

don't even bother to look at Gox, especially if you are located in the US. it's almost impossible to fetch fiat from there.
To get a more balanced estimate of BTC value look at bitstamp et al.
I've had a Gox account since April...  never had a problem.
The dough always comes, allbeit a bit slow.


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October 20, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
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+1 Im starting to see a pattern of conceit among hero members.  I would rather use BFG modded fw over CG every day this year (with that said I felt like luke-jr was a little conceited too)  Thanks you two for the great sw and all - specifically the free factor, but acting egotistical doesn't help your cause at all.  
You're free to do what you like. By the way, though, cgminer is my project. Kano is a value contributor but not the maintainer, and while I have complete control over what code to include, I have zero ability to control what he says or does on the forum. Note that in the future, I will be working on the kfc driver code.
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https://i.imgur.com/ah2LsGh.png


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October 20, 2013, 05:21:01 PM
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Someone needs to make a FAQ for these, or a consolidated hardware tweaks page.

I've never even heard of putty or know what the heck it is. lol

I can say for those who upgraded to 0.96, try using Chrome if IE cannot access it anymore.

Also, Ping is a great ipad app for finding the miner. It appears as Texas Instruments.

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October 20, 2013, 05:27:24 PM
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Someone needs to make a FAQ for these, or a consolidated hardware tweaks page.

I've never even heard of putty or know what the heck it is. lol

I can say for those who upgraded to 0.96, try using Chrome if IE cannot access it anymore.

Also, Ping is a great ipad app for finding the miner. It appears as Texas Instruments.
Putty is an SSH app, that allows a way to access the desktop/command line environment on your miner. Without it... you will be beating your head into the wall trying to fix some of this stuff because you can't access the cgminer window without it. Until i got a kncminer, i had never used it either... It's simple. just Goog "How to use Putty"
learning a few basic linux commands wouldn't hurt either...  I Had to do the same.
It's just like old DOS 3.1.... with different commands...


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October 20, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
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Hi guys,

so I played a little with firmware settings, voltage (0.7 / 0.9) and after a few restarts I now have my Mercury running stable at 130 GH/s and only have ~15 cores disabled instead of 40 cores with firmware 0.90 and enablecore.bin.

I made a few photos from the ASIC board and found out that the VRM with an output voltage from 0.9V they reach temperatures over 89°C.

Here is an album I made:

http://imgur.com/a/wVSbq
Great thermal images Silv0r! Moar!

I was under the impression these vrm's were optimal under 95degC, so 89degC is surprisingly high. How are you adjusting the voltage?

Also the beaglebone photo - is that hot spot dead centre? Hard to know without knowing which direction the photo was taken.

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Hi guys,

so I played a little with firmware settings, voltage (0.7 / 0.9) and after a few restarts I now have my Mercury running stable at 130 GH/s and only have ~15 cores disabled instead of 40 cores with firmware 0.90 and enablecore.bin.

I made a few photos from the ASIC board and found out that the VRM with an output voltage from 0.9V they reach temperatures over 89°C.

Here is an album I made:

http://imgur.com/a/wVSbq

Thank you for sharing that.

Die 1 might be cooked.  Let us know how you wrestle with it in the future.  I have one like that where .96 just keeps 30 cores off.  It's for the best since it will just flap on and off cores if it tries with other FW now

Seems to be a voltage and firmware problem. Don't know how to fix it 100%. Now with 0.9V output voltage and 0.94 (+BertMod2.1) I have 13 cores disabled (Die #1 6 cores and Die #2 7 cores) and average hashrate of 129.7 GH/s after 3 hours mining on 50BTC. But my worries are the high temperatures. The curious thing is:

I used an AC cooler in front of the ASIC board. Temperatures were okay but more cores were disabled.
Case closed with normal room temperatures (21°C) I've got the best result. Hope the VRM's won't cook but this is from the VRM manual:

http://imgur.com/qeC39KH

I think 90°C should be in the normal operating area..

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Hi guys,

so I played a little with firmware settings, voltage (0.7 / 0.9) and after a few restarts I now have my Mercury running stable at 130 GH/s and only have ~15 cores disabled instead of 40 cores with firmware 0.90 and enablecore.bin.

I made a few photos from the ASIC board and found out that the VRM with an output voltage from 0.9V they reach temperatures over 89°C.

Here is an album I made:

http://imgur.com/a/wVSbq
Great thermal images Silv0r! Moar!

I was under the impression these vrm's were optimal under 95degC, so 89degC is surprisingly high. How are you adjusting the voltage?

Also the beaglebone photo - is that hot spot dead centre? Hard to know without knowing which direction the photo was taken.

The photo of the BeagleBone was taken from the front side of the case. It seems to me that firmware 0.90 - 0.94 is working with other voltage settings as 0.95/0.96 does. Don't know how to adjust them manually. Just flashed 0.90, made a hard reset, flashed the enablecore.bin and then had a power cycle on PSU. After that I had a output voltage of ~0.9V instead of 0.7V. In my case the miner is working effective with 0.9V.

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October 20, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
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Good thing I paid for my KnC with USD.   I might end up making a profit after all Smiley

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October 20, 2013, 05:40:01 PM
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Someone needs to make a FAQ for these, or a consolidated hardware tweaks page.

I've never even heard of putty or know what the heck it is. lol

I can say for those who upgraded to 0.96, try using Chrome if IE cannot access it anymore.

Also, Ping is a great ipad app for finding the miner. It appears as Texas Instruments.
Putty is an SSH app, that allows a way to access the desktop/command line environment on your miner. Without it... you will be beating your head into the wall trying to fix some of this stuff because you can't access the cgminer window without it. Until i got a kncminer, i had never used it either... It's simple. just Goog "How to use Putty"
learning a few basic linux commands wouldn't hurt either...  I Had to do the same.
It's just like old DOS 3.1.... with different commands...

I will love it then. I miss the old days when you actually needed a brain to use a computer.
I did learn bit of Linux a couple of years ago when I was playing around with wifi sniffing.  ;-)

thanks

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October 20, 2013, 05:46:58 PM
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When I fuss with my cardboard and fans, I sometimes get a reboot.  Since I run, at the present, without the top, center cardboard cooling the BBB, a 12v fan sitting inside blowing on the left side of the module, another 12v fan outside the case blowing on the right side of the 1 module (Mercury), I added another piece of cardboard to the right of the BBB, to the side and up to the module, taking the air pushed out the side and directing it to the module.  The miner white light came on and off as I moved the fans, perhaps a loose pin in an added fan connector, but it started again right away.  Put Bertmod back but earlier tried the 0.2.1 and found it works well with firmware 0.90, looked at my cores, which I could with the 0.2.1, and earlier their was a single core not up, but now there are four 100% cores and the BertMod says the power change from adding that one core on firmware 0.90 with ~0.9v to the 4 vmr's, was 174 watts with one core down and 180 watts with all cores running.

Nah, that can't be right as (4dies)(48cores)(6watts)=1152 watts.

So, at 100%, 180watts/(4dies)(48cores)=.9275watt/core.

Trying the 0.95 firmware.  Not enthused.  Started off with 4 cores 100% but that soon dropped due to the .7volt output of the vrms.  Pretty quickly 23.95% of my cores became disabled.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that my power at the wall dropped from 268watts to 142watts and with BertMod showing 89watts, my power supply efficiency is about the same, 62.6%.  I might be able to tweak by raising my PCIE voltage.  I wait and see how this settles out.

Wow, not settling out at all.  Back to the failure to reach 100GH/s and it had started out with 100% cores.  I know from experience that adjusting my Vin, for an hour at 10v and later an hour at 12.5 Vin that it doesn't effectively get above 99.5GH/s while pre-0.95 firmware can allow me >130GH/s but at a cost of 162watts more at the wall extra.  So, the 34GH/s more I expect to get will cost me an additional 114% at the wall.  Well, this would be the time to spend that power, maybe not next year when network hashrate will be so high.

Back to 0.94, enablecores.bin run, have 100% cores for a few minutes then one core goes off.  Same die all the time.  Since the low voltage of the 0.95 lost such a high percentage of  cores, and since I've had the Vin adjusted to 11.7v yesterday and today, I adjusted it up to 12.0 and found the same failure; then adjusted it down to 11.5v and again after a few minutes it drops from all cores 100% to 1 core off at 97.9% of die 3.  It's right up to above 131GH/s avg. so I'm going to let it be at 11.5v, 180w from BertMod, 269½watts at the wall.

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Ha! ran awhile and it's back to all four at 100%!
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When I fuss with my cardboard and fans, I sometimes get a reboot.  Since I run, at the present, without the top, center cardboard cooling the BBB, a 12v fan sitting inside blowing on the left side of the module, another 12v fan outside the case blowing on the right side of the 1 module (Mercury), I added another piece of cardboard to the right of the BBB, to the side and up to the module, taking the air pushed out the side and directing it to the module.  The miner white light came on and off as I moved the fans, perhaps a loose pin in an added fan connector, but it started again right away.  Put Bertmod back but earlier tried the 0.2.1 and found it works well with firmware 0.90, looked at my cores, which I could with the 0.2.1, and earlier their was a single core not up, but now there are four 100% cores and the BertMod says the power change from adding that one core on firmware 0.90 with ~0.9v to the 4 vmr's, was 174 watts with one core down and 180 watts with all cores running.
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When I fuss with my cardboard and fans, I sometimes get a reboot.  Since I run, at the present, without the top, center cardboard cooling the BBB, a 12v fan sitting inside blowing on the left side of the module, another 12v fan outside the case blowing on the right side of the 1 module (Mercury), I added another piece of cardboard to the right of the BBB, to the side and up to the module, taking the air pushed out the side and directing it to the module.  The miner white light came on and off as I moved the fans, perhaps a loose pin in an added fan connector, but it started again right away.  Put Bertmod back but earlier tried the 0.2.1 and found it works well with firmware 0.90, looked at my cores, which I could with the 0.2.1, and earlier their was a single core not up, but now there are four 100% cores and the BertMod says the power change from adding that one core on firmware 0.90 with ~0.9v to the 4 vmr's, was 174 watts with one core down and 180 watts with all cores running.
Any chance of a few photos? Hard to visualise.

So, Google drive, allow anyone to view, paste the address between the image not-image ?
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on another note (totally off -topic)  It's a goood morning...

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don't even bother to look at Gox, especially if you are located in the US. it's almost impossible to fetch fiat from there.
To get a more balanced estimate of BTC value look at bitstamp et al.
I've had a Gox account since April...  never had a problem.
The dough always comes, allbeit a bit slow.

I'm glad good for you, I've heard a lot of horror stories about people trying to fetch fiat via bank wires, especially for USD located person. I've to say that the amount of money those stories are about are quite high, thou.

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