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October 16, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
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My day2 went to shipped yesterday and I picked it up from the office today. There are loads of people coming and picking stuff up. One guy came with his van and picked 6 Jupiter's up in one go.

Got to meet Orama and Sam and some of the other guys. They were rushing around like worker bees but still took the time to chat for a few minutes.

I don't comment much just watch the fireworks in here but it is funny heading how people have an inflated opinion of their impact on what it's going on. I can see there are a few frustrated customers, but they have shipped near 1500 miners so there are a hell of a lot of happy customers that no one is hearing from.

And a few probably non customers who are playing out the keyboard warriror syndrome to perfection. Smiley

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October 16, 2013, 04:15:49 PM
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Are any hosted customers achieving 500+ GH/s?  The best I seem to be able to get (sustained) is around 430GH with 10+% errors.  I've seen momentary peaks over 500 but never a 10 minute average above 445 or so.


One of my units has been over 525 since the .95 release.  The other 350.    But 45 minutes ago my 525 unit went to zero.

I'm in the same boat.

three Jupiter's, both averaging 380-400 with a third that refuses to stay hashing.

seems like its power starved, starting number 3 kills number 1.

I emailed customerservice, they replied that the engineers fixed the issue, but it's still present.

Paid for three hosted jupiters, only two work consistently.
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October 16, 2013, 04:21:19 PM
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And a few probably non customers who are playing out the keyboard warriror syndrome to perfection. Smiley
Person who got his miners on the date it was promised can't see what the problem is for anyone else? That might also be a syndrome. I think it's called "I've-got-mine-jack-don't-care-about-anyone-else-itis".

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October 16, 2013, 04:37:06 PM
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My day2 went to shipped yesterday and I picked it up from the office today. There are loads of people coming and picking stuff up. One guy came with his van and picked 6 Jupiter's up in one go.

Got to meet Orama and Sam and some of the other guys. They were rushing around like worker bees but still took the time to chat for a few minutes.

I don't comment much just watch the fireworks in here but it is funny heading how people have an inflated opinion of their impact on what it's going on. I can see there are a few frustrated customers, but they have shipped near 1500 miners so there are a hell of a lot of happy customers that no one is hearing from.

And a few probably non customers who are playing out the keyboard warriror syndrome to perfection. Smiley

"Peace"

+1

Though I am still waiting for my hosted 39xx, I don't see any reason for all the vengeful anger being displayed here...

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October 16, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
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Ok mine just updated to shipped as well, I'm starting to think the people's that are marked shipped without tracking might of went out dhl? Guess we will see, hope it gets to Hawaii fast!

I've seen UPS tracking here in the US work two different way, a shipper can notify UPS an order is to be picked up that day and provide the tracking number or the shipper can simply have the item picked up.  In the first case UPS gives tracking info before pickup and the latter tracking info isn't provided until actual pickup scan or office scan.

The pickup scan or office scan doesn't seem to appear on the USPS website until after 8PM.

If their UPS pickup in Sweden is at 5PM their time then we who have UPS shipping might see tracking after 8PM there or after 2PM EDT.



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October 16, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
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No need to go point by point. Utilisation can mean anything you want it to. If more people start using Bitcoin and buying and selling more goods the number and sum value of transactions will increase. This sounds like a good definition to me :-)

An increase in the number of people using the Bitcoin Network do not mean there will be more transactions or less transactions. What increases or decreases the volume of transactions is relative to what people decide to do with the BTC they own. So there is no direct correlation between the number of people using the Bitcoin Network and the volume of transactions.

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You can create SatoshiDice examples which work the other way and use that prove your point if you want.

...and I could create a script which could raise the number of transactions by sending BTC between keys I own. That, in accordance with your sound definition, would mean that the number of people using the Bitcoin Network had increased.

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I don't have the tools to calculate the percentage of transactions which include a fee. Do you? I asked the very same question on the developer forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309793.0

Fine, so do not make statements of "percentage" when there is no "tools to calculate the percentage of transactions which include a fee". This show that you cannot prove the correlation between the increase of Bitcoin users and the increase of transaction fee volume. If you do not know the "percentage" of transactions which include a fee, you are not in a position to assert that "sum value of transactions will increase" just because there is "more people start using Bitcoin and buying and selling more goods".
 
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Looking at a recent block, you can see people/machines have different ideas of a reasonable fee:

http://blockchain.info/block-index/426239/0000000000000004604489e4e1788c16479c60c37f55671ddca4cf2706915a95

Generally less than 0.0001 BTC by my eye-balling. Pool operators do whatever gets them the most miners. If they started advertising their mintxfee settings, then miners could make a decision about which pool to join based on that. I'd personally join a pool which encourages a higher fee than the status quo with the long term goal of raising fees.

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Payment gateways generate transactions and can add a fee to a transaction, I think you misunderstand at which point the fee is added. as another example, some of the exchanges already charge their own withdrawal fees, but you can guess that they aren't adding a percentage of that to the transaction fee, which perhaps they should :-)

Payment gateways do not generate a transaction, that is done by the Bitcoin Network. So payment gateways cannot add a fee to a Bitcoin Network transaction. What a payment gateway can do is use the Bitcoin Network to pay out they customers. Then the Bitcoin Network generate the respective transactions and a potential fee is added. The transactions fee in discussion is under strict control of the Bitcoin protocol, which is under control of the developers, pool operators and solo "miners".

Now, in relation to the topic subject, if the buyers of the KnCminer products expect they will be able to achieve a positive ROI based on the increase of fees, whatever is volume or price, they are completely screwed. An increase in the price of a transaction fee would result in less transactions, since common sense dictates that people try to pay less fees as possible. A significant increase of the volume of transactions would only be possible if all sectors of the global economy were using the Bitcoin Network. That is not the case,since only the third sector use the Bitcoin Network.

The KnCminer customers can only expect that difficulty will not reach an exponential increase before the next halving of the block reward. But this is unlikely to happen, since the tendency is more and more hash rate being added to the Bitcoin Newtork.
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October 16, 2013, 04:49:24 PM
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My day2 went to shipped yesterday and I picked it up from the office today. There are loads of people coming and picking stuff up. One guy came with his van and picked 6 Jupiter's up in one go.

Got to meet Orama and Sam and some of the other guys. They were rushing around like worker bees but still took the time to chat for a few minutes.

I don't comment much just watch the fireworks in here but it is funny heading how people have an inflated opinion of their impact on what it's going on. I can see there are a few frustrated customers, but they have shipped near 1500 miners so there are a hell of a lot of happy customers that no one is hearing from.

And a few probably non customers who are playing out the keyboard warriror syndrome to perfection. Smiley

"Peace"

+1

Though I am still waiting for my hosted 39xx, I don't see any reason for all the vengeful anger being displayed here...

The reason is simple, they advertised to the broad public, deliverd to people without VAT numbers (Customers) and stated in interviews that everyone can buy their miners, yet still think their ToS are valid in any way and that they do not have to pay compensation since they stated that in their ToS.
They claim that every date of delivery is pure for your information only but acknowledge publicly that they are late with produtcion. They ship under Incoterms 2010 EXW and B2B facade in order to have no obligation whatsoever to their customers and still claim that all is well in the KNC World and that customer protection or even timelimits explicitly stated to them and answered per email do not apply to them so that they do not have to pay damages for default to anyone.

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October 16, 2013, 04:50:41 PM
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Cheesy 1st at all i lose my sanity not btc, i was thinking hiding my booth in place where i working,  but the idiot mr.i'm in charge block dsl connection at servers and watch history Smiley
So, he's a idiot man, because you wanted to steal form your employers... and can't?


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October 16, 2013, 04:51:17 PM
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There's new terminology lesson here on bitcointalk.org everyday. For instance, "shipped" actually means gone to no-refund shelter, plenty of time to "ship" to customers lately.
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October 16, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
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The order has not reached the pickup place yet, but we get a shipment tonight.
You will receive an email as soon as the orders are ready for Pickup.
 
Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
 
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October 16, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
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There's new terminology lesson here on bitcointalk.org everyday. For instance, "shipped" actually means gone to no-refund shelter, plenty of time to "ship" to customers lately.

This is exactly what is happening.
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October 16, 2013, 04:59:58 PM
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I'll bet many of you are wishing you had invested in one of our Colored Easter Egg Batch Producers.....
It's still not too late to do so. You'll profit handsomely compared to KNC and the increased difficulty rises every few days.
All of the people who bought our Batch producers have made their money back and then some. But not the same can be said for those who bought KNC miners.

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October 16, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
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I was wrong about the slogan they should have used on the boards. Based on day 2 orders shipping today Should have been:-


KnC   Days, two weeks apart 
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Much more profit here!


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October 16, 2013, 05:07:30 PM
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got mail from auto-notify@ups.com with attached .doc and .exe files
My antivirus say that is trojan.
What does it mean?
It means it is trojan.

yeh  , but how  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
I never show up my email anywhere. Is that correct auto-notify@ups.com ups address?
I don't know if it is a legit UPS e-mail address. But if, it could be displaced.
And where is the point?  Knc should send you the number not ups
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October 16, 2013, 05:09:27 PM
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Has anyone whose order was suddenly marked as "shipped" yesterday gotten tracking info? Seems like there are a lot of us who have not...

My order #12X marked as shipped, but no tracking code yet!!

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October 16, 2013, 05:12:22 PM
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There's new terminology lesson here on bitcointalk.org everyday. For instance, "shipped" actually means gone to no-refund shelter, plenty of time to "ship" to customers lately.
They do this and don't realise what impression it will have in the future. Unless they intend to entirely quit the bitcoin miner business, they are shooting themselves in the foot again with such tactics. It doesn't create a good impression of the company. Oh well, they are doing it all to themselves.

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October 16, 2013, 05:17:28 PM
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There's new terminology lesson here on bitcointalk.org everyday. For instance, "shipped" actually means gone to no-refund shelter, plenty of time to "ship" to customers lately.
They do this and don't realise what impression it will have in the future. Unless they intend to entirely quit the bitcoin miner business, they are shooting themselves in the foot again with such tactics. It doesn't create a good impression of the company. Oh well, they are doing it all to themselves.

Odd, it feels just like they are doing it to me. lol
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October 16, 2013, 05:19:47 PM
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Has anyone whose order was suddenly marked as "shipped" yesterday gotten tracking info? Seems like there are a lot of us who have not...


Seems like folks that saw their status changed to SHIPPED yesterday, really didn't ship.

This seems to be a ploy to reduce compensation claims for not shipping on time.

It's been 24 hours since my status changed to "Shipped" and still nothing from UPS or whatever shipper they are using.

Please speak up if you are in the same boat as me so we can establish a trend.


My request for tracking number was responded to as such:

Hi,
 
A tracking number is sent via email once your order is scanned at the carrier. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate in contacting us.
 
Best regards  | Med vänlig hälsning  
Keith Gurnett  
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www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20



Order 27xx paid on June 26th.  Status was changed to shipped yesterday around this time.
Eligius shows no stats for my miner which was supposed to already have been tested and shipped.

Now, I'm not one who usually complains, but I find it dishonest that they would change my status to "shipped" when they clearly haven't. I will assume they did this for the reason that they don't want me asking for a refund after they failed to meet their October 15th deadline.

Im sure they are trying their hardest, and they did overdeliver on the gh/s, but the fact is that they did not keep their word on their shipping dates.
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October 16, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
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There's new terminology lesson here on bitcointalk.org everyday. For instance, "shipped" actually means gone to no-refund shelter, plenty of time to "ship" to customers lately.
They do this and don't realise what impression it will have in the future. Unless they intend to entirely quit the bitcoin miner business, they are shooting themselves in the foot again with such tactics. It doesn't create a good impression of the company. Oh well, they are doing it all to themselves.

Odd, it feels just like they are doing it to me. lol
lol! Yes. They are doing it to us right now for a short-term gain. But the long term damage of doing it is going to be to themselves. In other words, they are being really stupid and


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