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August 27, 2020, 10:41:44 PM

40000sq ft? (3500 m2)?
That's a palace.
I don't need a palace, i would rather have several smaller houses or even apts in cool places with either great weather or view.
Maybe Paris is good re weather, I never been. Weather and some "nature" like sea or lake or a large river, woods nearby are a must.
So far, choices like Hawaii, British Columbia, some places in CA, maybe Colorado are popping up. I used to like NY, not sure how it is now, though.
There are some great places in Europe too, but i would have to learn italian, spanish or portuguese to be there for longer time periods.

 Grin you misunderstood, I was only talking about the plot of land. Like you can exit your house and walk a bit and you're still on your property. I don't need a huge house, although ideally some of the things I want take some space, like a big garage for nice cars, and a home cinema, but that can always be added later, if the plot of land is big enough. A pool, too. An uncle of mine has a big house (1500m²) and his younger wife spends her days cleaning... He used to own a castle near here, similar to this one (don't want to be IDed if I show the real one) : https://www.bellesdemeures.com/en/listings/sale/tt-2-tb-13-pl-26066/151598835/ The castle was of course impressive, but my memories (I was a kid) are all about the large park, with a pond, a river, a forest and even large game animals, all in the middle of Paris suburbs, it was great. Nowadays it's probably worth a literal fortune, but at the time my uncle couldn't keep up with the maintenance, it was crazy expensive. In fact in France you can buy similar castles all over the place with comparatively low prices for this reason, the only ones that are worth a lot are those with a great location.

Weather here is not great but not horrible, thanks to the Gulf Stream it doesn't get too cold nor too hot like in NY. I would definitely like to spend the winter elsewhere, a bit too much rain, and too long. That's more long term goal (fuck you goals...). In fact on top of the weather what bums me in winter is the short daylight, so either I move closer to the equator (thinking about French Polynesia or Vietnam) or I live in two places (summer in the Northern Hemisphere, winter in the Southern Hemisphere).

I have Italian roots and family there, plenty of good things to say about it, but the future of the country is worrying me, people are older and older and the young aren't making babies, it's depressing. Italian would be easy to learn for me.


yea, got it, thanks.

Lately, I start to consider the possibility that bitcoin will jerk us around for another 10 years and then all these ideas would be for naught (at least, for me).
In this unfortunate hypothetical, bitcoin's 2010-2017 period is like 1971-1980 period in gold, which was followed by a 20year bear market.
Like almost everyone, I am hoping for an additional bull in our secular uptrend to make an ultimate top at 150-300K before the long secular bear, predicted by quite a few, including masterluc. However, I consider the possibility that 2017 was a top as being a non-zero probability. To me, we are still nominally in the bear market.

Yes, the masses of money that were printed are impressive, but, paradoxically, this does not prove that this money "has" to go into bitcoin and in fact, most of it went into 5 top stocks plus Tesla instead. Markets are very complex. Like today, inflation was unleashed, but gold and btc said... "meh" collectively. I guess, because it was all pre-announced.
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August 27, 2020, 10:42:38 PM

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August 27, 2020, 11:01:36 PM
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"Brute force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy something other than space".

-Bruce Schneier

"I can state flatly that heavier than air flying machines are impossible."

— Lord Kelvin, 1895
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For some strange reason, I am NOT even feeling ignored.   Cry  Cry   Cry

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August 27, 2020, 11:37:07 PM

"I can state flatly that heavier than air flying machines are impossible."

— Lord Kelvin, 1895

No source?
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August 27, 2020, 11:40:35 PM
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An interesting writeup from one of the Winkelvoss bros.
https://winklevosscapital.com/the-case-for-500k-bitcoin/
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August 27, 2020, 11:44:15 PM
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I forgot to show off... I did make one of these things.  Then I lost it, lol.  Hopeless.



It's around here somewhere.

But tonight coaxing some samples out of the little Crave!



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August 27, 2020, 11:45:47 PM
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"Brute force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy something other than space".

-Bruce Schneier

"I can state flatly that heavier than air flying machines are impossible."

— Lord Kelvin, 1895

Brute force, so checking every combination, makes some pretty easily verifiable claims.

If you build a supercomputer that occupies a space of only 1 cubic centimetre, that can brute force 1 trillion keys a second, and cover the entire earths surface with these computers, the Sun will swallow the Earth, before you have time to search the whole 256 bit key space.

I have also seen other calculations that information represented as its absolute minimum energy in the laws of physics, that there is not enough energy in the Sun to search a 256 bit key space either.
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August 28, 2020, 12:10:28 AM

An interesting writeup from one of the Winkelvoss bros.
https://winklevosscapital.com/the-case-for-500k-bitcoin/

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"Examining the The Fed’s balance sheet uncovers that it added $344 billion more mortgage-backed securities and $820 billion more long-term Treasurys (i.e., debt monetization) from February 2020 to July 2020. In other words, of the $3 trillion increase, $1.1 trillion was printed. To put this into perspective, the Fed printed two-thirds as much money in the last 6 months as it did over the prior 11 years. And that’s not all, the Fed has committed to a YOLO whatever it takes QE posture going forward…"

And yet very few people understand the real gravity of this statement.  Shocked Shocked
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Which DAW is that ? Don't immediately recognize it. I'm a Steinberg whore.
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August 28, 2020, 12:52:55 AM

"Brute force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy something other than space".

-Bruce Schneier

"I can state flatly that heavier than air flying machines are impossible."

— Lord Kelvin, 1895

Brute force, so checking every combination, makes some pretty easily verifiable claims.

If you build a supercomputer that occupies a space of only 1 cubic centimetre, that can brute force 1 trillion keys a second, and cover the entire earths surface with these computers, the Sun will swallow the Earth, before you have time to search the whole 256 bit key space.

I have also seen other calculations that information represented as its absolute minimum energy in the laws of physics, that there is not enough energy in the Sun to search a 256 bit key space either.

These numbers have nothing to do with the technology of the devices; they are the maximums that thermodynamics will allow. So these Laws of Thermodynamics will have to be broken first.
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August 28, 2020, 12:58:02 AM


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Yes, the masses of money that were printed are impressive, but, paradoxically, this does not prove that this money "has" to go into bitcoin and in fact, most of it went into 5 top stocks plus Tesla instead. Markets are very complex. Like today, inflation was unleashed, but gold and btc said... "meh" collectively. I guess, because it was all pre-announced.

Yet the 'money' going IN to these stocks is not vaporizing.  Most likely it is simply transitioning to a more undervalued asset class.  Like, perhaps, crypto. 

We'll be riding the waves for however long, but I can't in any case see it dragging 10 years.  The financial implosion is well underway. Simply holding with inflation should deliver large $ gains.


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August 28, 2020, 01:02:15 AM
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wow long time no see, i was wondering from time to time, welcome back @explorer

 Grin Thanks!  I had Crypto on ignore for 2 whole years...  maybe the occasional peek
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wow long time no see, i was wondering from time to time, welcome back @explorer

 Grin Thanks!  I had Crypto on ignore for 2 whole years...  maybe the occasional peek

What made you put it on ignore? Something like this?

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August 28, 2020, 01:41:37 AM

Feel a lot to me like it's trying to lift itself above this 11350 resistance.

(something something.. walls, something on topic.. walls,something)

Observing $11373.
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wow long time no see, i was wondering from time to time, welcome back @explorer

 Grin Thanks!  I had Crypto on ignore for 2 whole years...  maybe the occasional peek

What made you put it on ignore? Something like this?



A contributing factor, for sure  Cheesy  I let it soak up way too much of my time and energy.

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August 28, 2020, 02:00:37 AM

An interesting writeup from one of the Winkelvoss bros.
https://winklevosscapital.com/the-case-for-500k-bitcoin/

Good read.

I don’t think we can to 500k as quickly as they say. But 50k seems reasonable.
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An interesting writeup from one of the Winkelvoss bros.
https://winklevosscapital.com/the-case-for-500k-bitcoin/

Good read.

I don’t think we can to 500k as quickly as they say. But 50k seems reasonable.

   PM, You talk like you had your eyes closed through the last few 10-20x runs...   2.5x on the previous ATH is where the serious work begins.  They are running out of places to stuff the free money.  Our time will come, and I expect 100k+ before the end of next year.  The global financial system is a powder keg.  The fuse was lit almost a year ago.  Awaiting fireworks, or heavy rains - one or the other.
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August 28, 2020, 02:51:16 AM

Just misclicked on Speculation: guys there is a whole bunch of other people out there!

Scary, isn't it?

Let's build a wall.

Only if we make them pay for it.
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August 28, 2020, 03:06:28 AM

Just misclicked on Speculation: guys there is a whole bunch of other people out there!

Scary, isn't it?

Let's build a wall.

Only if we make them pay for it.

bitebits! dude!  You gotta be more careful!
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