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August 23, 2020, 09:48:28 PM
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I've seen figure of up to 4 quadrillion for the 'everything else' markets: bonds, derivatives, land, debt... . Doesn't affect your argument. A lot of that is just fake anyway.

all I really see is oh when we 100x we overtake US stonks, "conservatively" in 2 halvings' time



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the noon wall report

Continuing the battle at the 0.236 medium fib, bitcoin is currently trading near $11,678.00 

The closing of another weekly candle in just over four hours should offer further insight into what appears to another massive bullrun for bitcoin on the horizon.

Perhaps another nailbiter, no?  The next (as I type) 3.71666667 hours (but who's counting those 8 digits of approximation?) remain criticaltm

I am guess-timating the need to close this week's candle at over $11,950-ish (give or take 20 bucks) in order for this week's candle to close green...

A greenie would be a bit over a 2% pumpening from our price - currently bouncing around at a weeeeeeee (a shameful note to gembitz) bit above $11,700, as I type.




Closing green on the weekly might take some effort..I think as we are still in consolidation mode as we get ready to enter the final week of August...any close in this range is still a net positive.

The Bull has arrived imho.
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August 23, 2020, 09:55:30 PM
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My problem is I have a scientific background and appreciate little details like evidence and logic before jumping to conclusions that serve to reconfirm my world view. If that renders me a normie NPC then call me Wojak.

So Epstein really did kill himself, eh? I guess without evidence to the contrary, you believe he most certainly did.  Tongue

Here, have another blue pill. Nom nom.  Cheesy

It's very possible Epstein killed himself, yes. There was not getting out for him, so it would be a very natural thing to do.

With that said, to kill him to prevent him from talking, you would only need a few people involved. Yes that would be a conspiracy, but nothing impossible.

For 9/11 you need thousands of people to keep their mouth shut, something totally different.
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August 23, 2020, 10:16:33 PM

i am going to become daddy soon. Me and my partner didn't drop this nuclear bomb to our families for obvious reason, regulars might know why? but sharing here anyways because...... ...mhmm.

congrats!

guess we will be seeing lots of posts at 3am and other middle of the night hours as the baby dictates your waking/sleeping hours Smiley

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August 23, 2020, 10:32:10 PM

My personal favorite is WTC7 hitting the ground at freefall speed. After 9/11 we were called conspiracy theorists for more than a decade before supposed logic started to creep in. Still, ask someone how that day happened and I bet you get some jihad box cutter story, flight manuals and recovered passports.  Mistrust of government and powerful elites (they) is learned.


https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests

Yep, over 3,000 architects and engineers ran hundreds of computer simulations, but could not replicate what the MSM/ U.S. govt. claims happened to WTC7.

But the npcs don't care.

Also, my personal favorite is that reporter filmed on live TV saying "Just in, we've gotten reports now that Tower 7 has fallen! Tower 7 is down!"... literally with Tower 7 still standing in the background behind her. It fell like 5 minutes after she said that. Tongue

Again, the npcs don't care.
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August 23, 2020, 10:39:03 PM

My problem is I have a scientific background and appreciate little details like evidence and logic before jumping to conclusions that serve to reconfirm my world view. If that renders me a normie NPC then call me Wojak.

So Epstein really did kill himself, eh? I guess without evidence to the contrary, you believe he most certainly did.  Tongue

Here, have another blue pill. Nom nom.  Cheesy

It's very possible Epstein killed himself, yes. There was not getting out for him, so it would be a very natural thing to do.

Amazing how he could actually do that in a cell they said he had nothing to commit suicide with, or to even hurt himself with. And on supposed suicide watch too. Incredible. Such skill.
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August 23, 2020, 10:58:42 PM
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Those we place in the box of 'conspiracy theorist' usually have their bullshit sensor on sensitive, and rightfully so.  They're kinda like the first line of defense and we need these critical thinking guards on duty.

Uncanny that my bullshit sensor is also extra sensitive when listening to what conspiracy theorists have to say.

Who you consider to be "critical thinking guards" I consider to be "armchair experts," those who taught themselves just enough broad principles of physics, chemistry, history, psychology, whatever else, to argue a point that can't be opposed by those who haven't. They have usually convinced themselves they have a deeper than superficial understanding of their subject, which is a critical flaw that is easily exposed by actual experts on whatever the subject may be.

You see this type of effect on display here on the forum quite often; most obviously is when a hack like anonymint or franky1 would make a novel but obtuse hypothesis about the inner-workings of bitcoin and then be quickly shut down by Carlton Banks or gmaxwell or somebody else who actually knows what they are talking about.

I'm not saying I'm particularly smarter than anybody, but I know enough to recognize and respect the diligence involved in mastering a discipline as opposed to reading a book or watching a YouTube documentary then resting on the laurels of having convinced oneself that they know things.
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August 23, 2020, 11:07:40 PM

I'm not saying I'm particularly smarter than anybody, but I know enough to recognize and respect the diligence involved in mastering a discipline as opposed to reading a book or watching a YouTube documentary then resting on the laurels of having convinced oneself that they know things.

But yet you dismiss the work and conclusions of 3,000 architects and engineers that have mastered a discipline that you haven't?

https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests
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August 23, 2020, 11:17:09 PM

Bitcointalk has always been the honeypot of laughable conspiracy theorist looneys , its why I love it...lol.
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August 23, 2020, 11:29:40 PM
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Truthers???
Epstein *DID* kill himself???
...and JJG posts a one liner???

God fellas... it's just a little pullback, not the cornpocalypse!

This is what we need!
To remind us of the truth:
Inevitable.
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WO hAs LAUghAbLE cOnspIrAcy thEOry LOOnEys
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August 23, 2020, 11:47:46 PM

But yet you dismiss the work and conclusions of 3,000 architects and engineers that have mastered a discipline that you haven't?

https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests


Not at all. Let's look at what the 3,000 architects and engineers are actually doing:

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The study was paid for by a group called Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The nonprofit is said to represent over 3,000 architects and engineers who have signed a petition calling on Congress to launch a new investigation into the destruction of the towers.

They paid for the report to be done -- they didn't actually perform any of the "work" and their personal opinions on what happened are highly varied.

The report itself includes the words "controlled," "demolition" or "explosive" zero times. So you are basically altering its contents to fit your own narrative. Just because the report found that the building did not collapse due to fire does not (necessarily) mean the government did 9/11.
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August 24, 2020, 12:02:45 AM
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WTC towers did collapse because of the plane crashes, no matter if the direct cause was because of the structural damage/shock, the fire, any subsequent explosions or a combination of it all. It was NOT demolished by the government. That does not make any fucking sense from any logical point of view.

The Mandalay Bay mass shooting was also not a conspiracy of any sort.

That being said: Epstein did NOT kill himself.. or at least not without outside "help". But that doesn't mean EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

Let's move on. Bitcoin is doing fine.
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WTC towers did fall because of the plane crashes, no matter if the direct cause was because of the structural damage/shock, the fire, any subsequent explosions or a combination of it all. It was NOT demolished by the government. That does not make any fucking sense from any logical point of view.

The Mandalay Bay mass shooting was also not a conspiracy of any sort.

That being said: Epstein did NOT kill himself.. or at least not without outside "help". But that doesn't mean EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

It's ok man... nutildah and sirazimuth agree with you and are here to help.

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August 24, 2020, 12:11:20 AM

I'm not saying I'm particularly smarter than anybody, but I know enough to recognize and respect the diligence involved in mastering a discipline as opposed to reading a book or watching a YouTube documentary then resting on the laurels of having convinced oneself that they know things.

But yet you dismiss the work and conclusions of 3,000 architects and engineers that have mastered a discipline that you haven't?

https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests

The initial claims that you made, Torque, that were being criticized by nutildah related to how you were proclaiming that David Portnoy was a wall street plant, or something like that, and so the world trade center conspiracy theories seem to be a bit of a deflection of your original claim(s).

Sure, even I did not really agree with the initial strength of nutildah's criticisms, but instead of perhaps attempting to work with nutildah's criticism and attempt to qualify your initial statements a bit better, you doubled down on some other variation of ridiculousness and thereafter distracted from the original claim with the mostly off-topic world trade center baloney... PS now I see that nutildah is pursuing the WTC angle, so whatever.. it's like a stream of consciousness matter, and who can follow anyhow, even active participants...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Anyhow, some of your claims about Portnoy were not very bad.. until you started doubling down on ridiculous....   Tongue Tongue Tongue


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August 24, 2020, 12:11:36 AM
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My personal favorite is WTC7 hitting the ground at freefall speed. After 9/11 we were called conspiracy theorists for more than a decade before supposed logic started to creep in. Still, ask someone how that day happened and I bet you get some jihad box cutter story, flight manuals and recovered passports.  Mistrust of government and powerful elites (they) is learned.


https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests

Yep, over 3,000 architects and engineers ran hundreds of computer simulations, but could not replicate what the MSM/ U.S. govt. claims happened to WTC7.

Hm. Ok, one college report, not published in any scientific or engineering journal, not peer reviewed.

Nifty!

I will however download and read the whole fucking thing because I'm on vacation.

Edit: Technically it was edited, having two chosen people analyze the result is not peer review. Of the authors, one was a adjunct professor, one was a bridge engineer, and the third was a PE and SE (Professional Engineer and Structural Engineer) but I don't see any of them having specific expertise on high rises. Note: I am not an engineer, thus I cannot by myself vouch for the veracity of this paper. However the people writing it might not be fully versed in high rise building construction or design. Nor are the editors/"reviewers".

And it was paid for by a group with a specific bias on the outcome. Then again you could say NIST is simply an organ of the State....
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August 24, 2020, 12:15:57 AM

My personal favorite is WTC7 hitting the ground at freefall speed. After 9/11 we were called conspiracy theorists for more than a decade before supposed logic started to creep in. Still, ask someone how that day happened and I bet you get some jihad box cutter story, flight manuals and recovered passports.  Mistrust of government and powerful elites (they) is learned.


https://www.ktva.com/story/41015153/fire-did-not-cause-world-trade-center-building-7-collapse-uaf-study-suggests

Yep, over 3,000 architects and engineers ran hundreds of computer simulations, but could not replicate what the MSM/ U.S. govt. claims happened to WTC7.

Hm. Ok, one college report, not published in any scientific or engineering journal, not peer reviewed.

Nifty!

I will however download and read the whole fucking thing because I'm on vacation.

One way to screw up an otherwise lovely vacation.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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August 24, 2020, 12:37:20 AM

People on suicide watch killing themselves happens all the time. And Epstein could have bribed someone to give him what he needed.
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August 24, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
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some evening charts    #dyor

Thing look pretty good imo..especially on longer time frames. There was significant buying as we closed out July last month..I am interested to see if we have a repeat as we enter the last week of August. That being said....my gut is telling me daytarders are hungry for profits so we could see a dip..it shows pretty clearly on the twelve hour chart below.

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August 24, 2020, 01:38:05 AM

Any chance we'll be discussing how Alan Dershowitz didn't kill himself one day?



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