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[Biodom]

Bitcoiners will be able to see what transpires in 14 13 mo, and if btc is below 55K (the lowest prediction value), then the model is invalidated and there are no other models with any predictive value whatsoever.

I like the fact that, finally, S2F is being harshly criticized because, in my mind, it is making the predictive values more likely to be achieved, paradoxically.

[Toxic2040]

..... how many joints in a lid?

“One.......I roll big joints man.....”

“AND THE JUDGES SAY THATS OKAY, THEY ROLL BIG JOINTS TOO!!!”

correct!

come to think of it, the answer always seems to be one no matter what the amount of weed. hmmm probably time to test those bed sheet size papers now. be back (probably much) later.

+1 WOsMerit




I get about 25 or so on average. Depends on whats happening and potency to some extent.
I am not sure how many even remember what a lid is or how much it is.

Carry on.

[JayJuanGee]

EU is going full steam digital €

[etc... etc.... edited out for space-saving purposes..... ]

You are seeming to transition into a behemoth analyzer status, 600w...  

satoshi? Is that you?    

Thanks for your ongoing in-depth presentations regarding current underlying bitcoin-related dynamics.   #nohomo

Interesting to wake up this morning to news like that. Guess even the Presidential "Bubble" didn't keep it out.

Now we get to see what happens when reality invades this little bubble. Good chance he will be fine. Possible chance very sick. Small chance he will be in a coma or ventilator. Which will make for some interesting decisions.

Hm.

Yep.

Even early in the year, while he was telling the populous that the virus was "not a problem" blah blah blah, he was getting tested on a very regular basis, and anyone who was exposed to him was getting tested on a regular basis.

But, like you suggested, lightfoot, the virus does not give two ratt's asses whether you are taking half-assed measures... a bubble, like you said, but NOT anything close to enough of a solid bubble.

They always talk about an "October surprise" during an election year.

Trump gets diagnosed with Covid-19 right on October 1st.

His self-quarantine will last 14 days, and end exactly on the day before his next debate with Biden.

What an utterly...amazing...coincidence.  The odds.

It could be God himself is writing this story.

Torque does not believe in such god theory(ies), unless god happens to be some kind of a manipulator, who is screwing with various matters just to irk Torque-ie porkie.

 

[Febo]

Last few days maybe not looks that good but last quarter was totally fine. 17% growth. Considering Q3 is traditionally bad.

[JayJuanGee]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/02/chinese-state-media-outlet-mocks-trump-for-contracting-coronavirus/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

CCP asking for it. I bet Trump does something to really piss them off like officially recognizing Taiwan as a country.

A little global uncertainty will be good for King Bitcoin.

I doubt that it is in anyone's interest (especially BTC HODLers) to really be asking for more societal drama in order for king daddy bitcoin to prosper..

Bitcoin would likely be much better served by fewer Armageddon-wannabe scenarios.

Bitcoiners will be able to see what transpires in 14 13 mo, and if btc is below 55K (the lowest prediction value), then the model is invalidated and there are no other models with any predictive value whatsoever.

I like the fact that, finally, S2F is being harshly criticized because, in my mind, it is making the predictive values more likely to be achieved, paradoxically.

That seems to be a bit of a strange claim about the model being supposedly broken if the BTC price is below $55k by the end of next year...

We will see, Biodom, but your claim seems to be a bit strong and wishful on your behalf, Biodom.. I mean in terms of you wanting to proclaim that the model is either worth very little or not worth anything.. and it is as if you are just rooting on an ongoing basis that the model is not true... ...

for what reason, it is difficult to know for sure..

Seems to me that you are just overly bothered by the model and you are ongoingly trying to figure out ways to discount the model and suggest that it adds little to no value to our thinking about BTC price dynamics, no?

Also, it seems to me that BTC prices could be manipulated down for 13-14 months or even extending 2 years from now or longer .. in order to cause the stock to flow model to appear to be broken.. and so what would that ongoing and persistent manipulation accomplish exactly, if it were to happen?  

Seems to me that such ongoing downward manipulation could cause an explosive BTC price move later on down the road, or maybe such ongoing downward manipulation would cause a shifting of the trendline of the model to get pushed downward within the model.. so I am not clear why you believe that such need to potentially tweak the model would necessarily cause the model to be broken or invalid.. because the model is likely NOT guaranteeing as much as you seem to be wanting to argue that such model guarantees.

[lightfoot]

Meantime....

[Last of the V8s]

Trump weighs 17 stone? What a lard-ass. Definitely going down.

[Toxic2040]

the noon wall report at 1:22pm


Heaving to sir..second battens in main and mizzen. Storm jib is set. Steady as she goes.


#dyor

1h



4h

#stronghands

[nullius]

Meantime....

Are you seriously glorifying the guillotine as “Justice”?  Never mind that all three panels are nonsensical idiot-bait propaganda:  That takes the cake, so to speak.  What’s next?  Glorifying the justice of the Soviet dekulakization?

Something on the order of a million people were gruesomely massacred in the French Revolution, for no reason but a hellishly depraved sense of “justice” and égalité.  Mob rule plus “liberal” ideologues equals bloodbath—always.

Either you are completely ignorant of history, or you are a wannabe bloody murderer, or both.  Pick your poison.

Trump weighs 17 stone? What a lard-ass. Definitely going down.

What do you expect?  He is American, and therefore fat.  “#MAGA”, LOL.

[Hyperjacked]

Where dem dang Bargain boyz at...?
USA up dat crap creek witout da paddles
Printin trillions n dat chubby guy got a snake bite!

[marcus_of_augustus]

Trump weighs 17 stone? What a lard-ass. Definitely going down.

... yes I would say he is much higher risk of succumbing to the chinese bioweapon than Boris was, 1 in 37 of 74yo who catch it die
... Trump is overweight, highly-stressed but has best healthcare.
... his symptoms worsened rapidly now so he's had it for a few days already https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-trump-has-covid-19-here-what-happens-next
...CIA wants him gone now that russiagate frame-up investigation is pointing back at G Haspel, Hicks is the honey in the field

[LFC_Bitcoin]

[Biodom]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/02/chinese-state-media-outlet-mocks-trump-for-contracting-coronavirus/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

CCP asking for it. I bet Trump does something to really piss them off like officially recognizing Taiwan as a country.

A little global uncertainty will be good for King Bitcoin.

I doubt that it is in anyone's interest (especially BTC HODLers) to really be asking for more societal drama in order for king daddy bitcoin to prosper..

Bitcoin would likely be much better served by fewer Armageddon-wannabe scenarios.

Bitcoiners will be able to see what transpires in 14 13 mo, and if btc is below 55K (the lowest prediction value), then the model is invalidated and there are no other models with any predictive value whatsoever.

I like the fact that, finally, S2F is being harshly criticized because, in my mind, it is making the predictive values more likely to be achieved, paradoxically.

That seems to be a bit of a strange claim about the model being supposedly broken if the BTC price is below $55k by the end of next year...

We will see, Biodom, but your claim seems to be a bit strong and wishful on your behalf, Biodom.. I mean in terms of you wanting to proclaim that the model is either worth very little or not worth anything.. and it is as if you are just rooting on an ongoing basis that the model is not true... ...

for what reason, it is difficult to know for sure..

Seems to me that you are just overly bothered by the model and you are ongoingly trying to figure out ways to discount the model and suggest that it adds little to no value to our thinking about BTC price dynamics, no?

Also, it seems to me that BTC prices could be manipulated down for 13-14 months or even extending 2 years from now or longer .. in order to cause the stock to flow model to appear to be broken.. and so what would that ongoing and persistent manipulation accomplish exactly, if it were to happen?  

Seems to me that such ongoing downward manipulation could cause an explosive BTC price move later on down the road, or maybe such ongoing downward manipulation would cause a shifting of the trendline of the model to get pushed downward within the model.. so I am not clear why you believe that such need to potentially tweak the model would necessarily cause the model to be broken or invalid.. because the model is likely NOT guaranteeing as much as you seem to be wanting to argue that such model guarantees.

It is not what "I claim", it is what the model's author (planB) have said repeatedly.
I see no point to cling to this model either (if it would be falsified).
Time (Dec 2021) will tell...at least with regards to the original and the followup S2F model(s).
S2FX model (the most recent one) does not have any time variable and could be ascertained only after a considerable time period, looking backwards.

[nullius]

Whilst working on something else, I will just leave this here for now...

Most people don’t know the origins of Antifa.  Antifascist Action (Antifaschistische Aktion), or “Antifa”, was originally founded in 1932 as a merger of the private armies/militias of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands, SPD in the below photo), a “liberal” Marxist-socialist party—and the German Communist Party (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands, KPD).



The current version of the original Antifa logo, seen above:



The banner in the centre reads:  “ES LEBE DIE ROTE EINHEITSFRONT”.  In idiomatic English, I think that that slogan should be rendered:  “THE UNITED RED FRONT LIVES!”

The banners on the left and right read respectively:  “As the SPD [Social Democrats]” and “As the KPD [Communists]”.

The hammer-and-sickle flags need no explanation. ☭

So, yes:  Antifa are Communists.  It’s not merely my opinion that they are Communists; it’s not that they are like Communists, or maybe crypto-Communists:  The group originated as a merger of a self-described overt Communist group and a liberal-Marxist-socialist group, under the International Communist Red Flag.

N.b. that I knew the above-stated history before the pomo-Jacobins started bragging about it.  I’m not getting the history from them (or their twisted version thereof).  I have know the history for a long time.  I found the photo floating around the web somewhere awhile ago, and I have been trying properly to identify and to source it.

[nutildah]

So, yes:  Antifa are Communists.

Meh. You're talking about the original Antifa which was only in existence for about 2 years. They have technically been defunct since 1933. Modern day Antifa (as it pertains to the US) is not directly tied to any communist party, which have severely fallen out of favor starting in the mid 1940s. It's not directly tied to anything except the ideology of fighting fascism.

Not many people in the US or anywhere for that matter identify themselves as communists anymore, or even socialists. The majority of voting Antifa members are obviously going to vote for Biden and not Howie Hawkins, who is the socialist / green party candidate for this year.

Don't understand what the point of trying to pigeonhole an amorphous movement with no real leadership was.

[vapourminer]

..... how many joints in a lid?

“One.......I roll big joints man.....”

“AND THE JUDGES SAY THATS OKAY, THEY ROLL BIG JOINTS TOO!!!”

correct!

come to think of it, the answer always seems to be one no matter what the amount of weed. hmmm probably time to test those bed sheet size papers now. be back (probably much) later.

+1 WOsMerit



I get about 25 or so on average. Depends on whats happening and potency to some extent.
I am not sure how many even remember what a lid is or how much it is.

uh wut wer wee tauking aboutt?? niiiiiiiice

lidzs? bout trtee fitty

[JayJuanGee]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/02/chinese-state-media-outlet-mocks-trump-for-contracting-coronavirus/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

CCP asking for it. I bet Trump does something to really piss them off like officially recognizing Taiwan as a country.

A little global uncertainty will be good for King Bitcoin.

I doubt that it is in anyone's interest (especially BTC HODLers) to really be asking for more societal drama in order for king daddy bitcoin to prosper..

Bitcoin would likely be much better served by fewer Armageddon-wannabe scenarios.

Bitcoiners will be able to see what transpires in 14 13 mo, and if btc is below 55K (the lowest prediction value), then the model is invalidated and there are no other models with any predictive value whatsoever.

I like the fact that, finally, S2F is being harshly criticized because, in my mind, it is making the predictive values more likely to be achieved, paradoxically.

That seems to be a bit of a strange claim about the model being supposedly broken if the BTC price is below $55k by the end of next year...

We will see, Biodom, but your claim seems to be a bit strong and wishful on your behalf, Biodom.. I mean in terms of you wanting to proclaim that the model is either worth very little or not worth anything.. and it is as if you are just rooting on an ongoing basis that the model is not true... ...

for what reason, it is difficult to know for sure..

Seems to me that you are just overly bothered by the model and you are ongoingly trying to figure out ways to discount the model and suggest that it adds little to no value to our thinking about BTC price dynamics, no?

Also, it seems to me that BTC prices could be manipulated down for 13-14 months or even extending 2 years from now or longer .. in order to cause the stock to flow model to appear to be broken.. and so what would that ongoing and persistent manipulation accomplish exactly, if it were to happen?  

Seems to me that such ongoing downward manipulation could cause an explosive BTC price move later on down the road, or maybe such ongoing downward manipulation would cause a shifting of the trendline of the model to get pushed downward within the model.. so I am not clear why you believe that such need to potentially tweak the model would necessarily cause the model to be broken or invalid.. because the model is likely NOT guaranteeing as much as you seem to be wanting to argue that such model guarantees.

It is not what "I claim", it is what the model's author (planB) have said repeatedly.

That sounds more like your interpretation to me, but hey, maybe PlanB did say something that is that dumb...

"My model will be invalid, if it gets manipulated into quasi-oblivion because maths and science rules the world."

That would be a ridiculous posuture in regards to a model that is based on various probabilities rather than certainties.

I see no point to cling to this model either (if it would be falsified).

Of course, you hardly see any value in the model anyhow, you have already asserted that several times and you tend to repeat your assertions at almost any possible opportunity that you can.

Time (Dec 2021) will tell...at least with regards to the original and the followup S2F model(s).

Sure of course.  As I said, I am not wedded to that particular model even though it does seem to have a lot of explanatory effect in terms of where  we have been and where we are.  Sure, it is less solid in terms of its predictive effect, but surely still decently co-integrated in order to be amongst the best of the models including if you supplement it too by taking into account the four-year fractal and the s-curve exponential adoption based on networking effects and metcalfe principles. 

Surely, in my self-described humble bumble opinion, no need to go whining if the supposed bare minimum thresholds either are not met by the anticipated date or if there are delays in meeting such thresholds... but hey, aren't we (the royal we) repeating ourselves?

S2FX model (the most recent one) does not have any time variable and could be ascertained only after a considerable time period, looking backwards.

Surely, good to be a bit flexible on the time frames, even though surely we have seen quite decent past correlation with a couple of the past four-year fractals.. and even though such 4-year fractals are not set in stone, they have tended to show quite remarkable similarity patterns.. take such info (and timelines) with a grain of salt and be a doubting Tomas if it makes you feel more better about some of us becoming richie (hopefully you are included in such becoming MOAR richie status since you are neither waiting to buy nor failing/refusing to adequately pee pare ur lil selfie for UPpity..    even if you might be kicking and screaming the whole UPpity way towards getting materially closer and closer to fuck you and your mother status.... so long as you did not fail/refuse to adequately pee pare ur lil selfie..  ).

[Biodom]

Sorry, did not follow that.

pee what?

...whatever.

I know what bitcoin is, but really don't know who planB is...a Galileo (or Kepler)-like figure or a Pied Piper?
At first (and for a long time) I thought the former, but now...

[cAPSLOCK]

Not many people in the US or anywhere for that matter identify themselves as communists anymore, or even socialists.

Of course people are not going to identify with the failed political ideology responsible for more deaths than any other in the history of the world.

But one of the things the left is fucking good at?  Rebranding.

But that doesn't mean we are not staring at the same toilet full of shit.

Also... in my lifetime I can't thank of may words that seem to be more incorrectly used that "fascist".  I think most people using it have some smeary definition in their head that they equate with "the beliefs of people who I think are bossy and mean".  And this is the picture they hold in their head as they raise their fists and command some innocent couple trying to eat dinner repeat the words the (actual) fascists are screaming at them.

Irony abounds.

[nutildah]

But one of the things the left is fucking good at?  Rebranding.

The Democratic party has never been the Communist party. They're two entirely different things. So its not a "rebranding" of anything.

Also... in my lifetime I can't thank of may words that seem to be more incorrectly used that "fascist".

Funny, I feel the exact same way about people who over-use the word "communist."