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September 22, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
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Very annoyed OG HODLER.

That makes two annoyed OG HODLERs.

Getting mighty sick of the mandatory mask mandates, despite everything dropping and starting to get under control.

It's all political theatre.

*breathe in and out Bob. Don't get angry. Go hit another bowl of Gods' herb*

There has to be another agenda, I’m not going to start with the conspiracy theories out of respect for others though.

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September 22, 2020, 03:12:39 PM

Another 6 months of covid restrictions announced by Boris Johnson today. It’s not a full lockdown but bars, pubs, restaurants have a curfew, they must close at 10pm. You’re not allowed to socialise in a group of more than 6. No fans allowed into sporting events (stadiums) until March at the earliest.

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Man, UK pubs were already closing far too early, compared to most other countries (last round @ 11:30pm IIRC)... Looks like COVID-19 sealed the deal! Now families can take their kids with them to the pub, and be back home in time for bed.

Puritans will also love this secondary or tertiary effect of Covid-panic:  Now, we must restrict pubs to serve only non-alcoholic “beer”!
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September 22, 2020, 04:05:13 PM

^^ nullius you want to suggest some history book here in WO? sometimes you sounds like well read and judging from your positing habits, you are terrific (Although bit weak on south Asian/Indian subcontinent history, may be you didn't expressed yourself much and i avoid correcting peeps on interweb) Nonetheless you still sounds solid, so feel free to shoot your top notch books on history here in public. would like to read your recommendation.
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Very annoyed OG HODLER.

That makes two annoyed OG HODLERs.

Getting mighty sick of the mandatory mask mandates, despite everything dropping and starting to get under control.

It's all political theatre.

*breathe in and out Bob. Don't get angry. Go hit another bowl of Gods' herb*

It's been a while since I gave a insiders (I work in healthcare, specifically informatics) Covid update... this made me think about it.

We have seen a marked, CONSISTENT drop in all numbers since the last surge.  Our confirmed Covid patients has dropped to a little more than 5% of admissions which is WELL under where we were in either surge (~60+%).

Positive test results are an order of magnitude below what we saw at the peak.  But testing has become very routine and nearly universal.

Mortality has continued to remain technically in the noise.  So low that it is not statistically dense enough to get relevant data from the numbers other than the mortality has been insignificant in the big picture.

Most notably both infection rates as well as mortality have both continued to go lower even during the second surge.
 They did rise 2-3 weeks after the surge peaked, but much less so than the first surge which implies we are seeing immunity emerge.

We are currently just starting the period of time where *some* return to school will be causing a predictable third surge.  But so far this one seems to be holding back and not emerging quickly, which also implies we are seeing immunity emerge.

To me (non-clinical) we are seeing the very best case scenario we could hope for.

Therefore the continued hysteria is either overly careful, or politically motivated.  I think the second.  I am not really a conspiracy type, and it always bugs me when people act like the whole thing was made up.  Tell that to the people who suffocated because of it.  But although the pandemic is no doubt real, and has posed a real risk, it is now being used by the powers that be to control us more than anything.  Especially considering that at this point we have a VERY clear picture of who is at risk, and that subset is much smaller than we had originally thought.

Also, along with herd immunity we also seem to have herd movement... people who wear masks have many motivations.  Personally I feel fairly safe but will still wear a mask in public for the sake of those who are at risk.  But everyone's fear and actions are definitely motivated by herd instincts and it's interesting to watch.
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September 22, 2020, 04:16:34 PM

yup ima get myself a island too when number go up



Sorry buddy.  I already got that one in Dec 17.  It pays to be early.

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September 22, 2020, 04:20:30 PM

yup ima get myself a island too when number go up


How many rooms are available?, how much is the rent per month?, you never know the future that awaits us and most importantly, there are girls?
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Do you guys think all of this covid back drop will be bullish or bearish for bitcoin in the short to medium term?


depends.

will the newly deceased covid victims have left their keys to thir estate/whatever or are those coins lost forever due to no backups or such.. if the 1st no real effect  but in the second case good news.. a donation to all so bearish, kinda
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September 22, 2020, 04:33:12 PM

Yes, there will be dips.
Yes, there will be peaks.
Yes, there will be pumps.
Yes, there will be dumps.

Just Zoom OutTM, chill, and have a beer!

If you're scared about a dip, you need some HoDL training...

Don't give them your coins.

A rusty nut won't budge, and that's about the only good quality of a rusty nut.

HoDL.

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Special Mindrust edition available for special order.


LOL, yeah, that could be a DeFi project. And titanium doesn't rust (i.e., a mindrust-proof product). This is big.

Titanium rusts.

I've been playing around with titanium MMO anodes. Though...I use that because they rust the least.
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Hello hat gang, I am happy to inform you that today is the 1th anniversary of www.WOHATS.com

1 year has passed and a lot has changed since its creation, I am happy because the most viewed blog post after a year is the list of posts: Hats History this was the purpose of the blog, let everyone know how the beautiful story began in the Wall Observer thread.

To date there are 137 users with hats
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Real-time price of BTC Bitstamp/TradingView
All releases of Bitcoin Core
Link to number of full nodes online, hash rate, and much more
In one year, the scoreboard has a result of > 8,000 views

I think it's fair to give it one more year to see how it evolves, we continue with him?

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Another 6 months of covid restrictions announced by Boris Johnson today. It’s not a full lockdown but bars, pubs, restaurants have a curfew, they must close at 10pm. You’re not allowed to socialise in a group of more than 6. No fans allowed into sporting events (stadiums) until March at the earliest.

I’m sick of this crap now, isolate the old & vulnerable & let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Covid has a ridiculously low mortality rate, feeling annoyed.

I hope bitcoin’s potentially epic bull run next year doesn't get stunted because of a bad type of flu.

Do you guys think all of this covid back drop will be bullish or bearish for bitcoin in the short to medium term?

Thanks in advance!

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Another 6 months of covid restrictions announced by Boris Johnson today. It’s not a full lockdown but bars, pubs, restaurants have a curfew, they must close at 10pm. You’re not allowed to socialise in a group of more than 6. No fans allowed into sporting events (stadiums) until March at the earliest.

I’m sick of this crap now, isolate the old & vulnerable & let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Covid has a ridiculously low mortality rate, feeling annoyed.

I hope bitcoin’s potentially epic bull run next year doesn't get stunted because of a bad type of flu.

Do you guys think all of this covid back drop will be bullish or bearish for bitcoin in the short to medium term?

Thanks in advance!

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Another 6 months of covid restrictions announced by Boris Johnson today. It’s not a full lockdown but bars, pubs, restaurants have a curfew, they must close at 10pm. You’re not allowed to socialise in a group of more than 6. No fans allowed into sporting events (stadiums) until March at the earliest.

I’m sick of this crap now, isolate the old & vulnerable & let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Covid has a ridiculously low mortality rate, feeling annoyed.

I hope bitcoin’s potentially epic bull run next year doesn't get stunted because of a bad type of flu.

Do you guys think all of this covid back drop will be bullish or bearish for bitcoin in the short to medium term?

Thanks in advance!

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Very annoyed OG HODLER.

Really? Boris spent weeks to convince everyone to return to work and when it finally happend he backtracks all of that and starts threaten people again. Together with a 10,000 pound fine for people not following quarantine rules and even deploying the army. Even for my standards this is over the top, something sinister is beeing played over here they abusing the situation to fulfill a certain agenda. I can understand these measures when Covid-19 transform into a more lethal version like the start of this year during traditional flu season but now seems very unnecessary.  

If i need to believe in a conspiracy theory is that they released this (lab-made) virus on us to crash the old system making place for a new one.
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Another 6 months of covid restrictions announced by Boris Johnson today. It’s not a full lockdown but bars, pubs, restaurants have a curfew, they must close at 10pm. You’re not allowed to socialise in a group of more than 6. No fans allowed into sporting events (stadiums) until March at the earliest.

I’m sick of this crap now, isolate the old & vulnerable & let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Covid has a ridiculously low mortality rate, feeling annoyed.

I hope bitcoin’s potentially epic bull run next year doesn't get stunted because of a bad type of flu.

Do you guys think all of this covid back drop will be bullish or bearish for bitcoin in the short to medium term?

Thanks in advance!

Regards

Very annoyed OG HODLER.

Really? Boris spent weeks to convince everyone to return to work and when it finally happend he backtracks all of that and starts threaten people again. Together with a 10,000 pound fine for people not following quarantine rules and even deploying the army. Even for my standards this is over the top, something sinister is beeing played over here they abusing the situation to fulfill a certain agenda. I can understand these measures when Covid-19 transform into a more lethal version like the start of this year during traditional flu season but now seems very unnecessary.  

If i need to believe in a conspiracy theory is that they released this (lab-made) virus on us to crash the old system making place for a new one.


No kidding, bro.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-54250696
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yup ima get myself a island too when number go up



Sorry buddy.  I already got that one in Dec 17.  It pays to be early.

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My rookie tip: If you ever sell, don't sell it all, keep at least 10% of your corn for hodling.

I am thinking about a formula that aim to NOT sell more than 10% for every range - such as every 100% (or maybe less selling and a greater range?)

But it would go something like this:

Let's say that you started buying BTC at or near the top of the last bubble, but you stuck with it and you kept dollar cost averaging in.  Accordingly, you have a average cost per BTC that is around $8k per BTC, and so you are a bit concerned about what to do.

You decide that you will sell no more than 10% of your stash for every time that the BTC price doubles (if it does)

Therefore, you have authorized yourself to sell 10% of your stash at any point of your own choosing at each point within the below prices ranges:


1) $10k to $20k (10% of total stash)

2) $20k to $40k (10% of total stash)

3) $40k to $80k (10% of total stash)

4) $80k to $160k (10% of total stash)

5) $160k to $320k (10% of total stash)

6) $320k to $640k (10% of total stash)

7) $640k to $1.2m (10% of total stash)

Cool Etc. etc. etc



Yes, i am also  a fan of this ladder approach. My message was more for the kind of "i'll sell it all at now, because who knows if bitcoin will ever reach this high regions in the future again"...

Better version: If you intend to sell it all when moon, sell only 90%!


Fair enough... I suppose 90% is better than 100%.  I can see that angle - even though personally, I remain worried about the necessity of those kinds of plays, too...  

Accordingly, you will hardly see me compromising in that kind of seemingly timing of the market mindset direction - even though I do appreciate that there could be personal circumstances that might justify a bit of a different approach... even though that selling 90% approach continues to feel like a kind of gambling mindset, rather than an investing mindset.

By the way, I feel that I do compromise in regard to my suggestion that peeps need to determine how much to put into bitcoin, and I suggest starting out with a consideration of 1% to 10% of quasi-liquid assets, and suggesting that a minimum of 1% is a potentially prudent approach... even though 1% also seems a bit whimpy to me, but I have a kind of understanding that sometimes people may need to get accommodated to an investment such as BTC and also to get used to it.... so surely, I am not opposed to considering ways to individually tailor approaches while also even going outside of the suggested range based on personal circumstances....

At the same time, I am just considering mindsets of selling 90% as a road that is a bit too far - and I have difficulties with relating to those kinds of gambling mindsets - unless there is an actual excuse that is based on short life expectations or some exogenous demands, rather than attempts that seem to be merely timing the market... Might be just me, unless there would be some particular circumstances that might be pointed out that would allow me to appreciate that such an approach would not be a kind of gambling.

Getting too close to $10k for my liking.
I missed buying the dip last time it dropped into the $9k's. Wonder if it will drop that low again, or support will hold...

Huh... Disregard I guess. Appears the situation has improved since I checked earlier.

Onward $11k !!

I am glad that the 1-minute candles were able to convince you to adjust your perspectives.

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Don't give them your coins.

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Special Mindrust edition available for special order.


And, training sessions from Bob about how NOT to do it.   Wink   (through zoom, of course - because we all (Royal ones) wants to stay safe.)
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Sorry buddy.  I already got that one in Dec 17.  It pays to be early.

Still easier to get than an RTX 3080! Cheesy

That's a Monero ASIC, right? Wink

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September 22, 2020, 05:45:59 PM

people who wear masks have many motivations.

The deeper truth of this statement inspired me to do something that is always a mistake:  Start a P&S thread.  Whipped out in a hurry, too.

Covid masks are dual-use for privacy:

This is something that I don’t get:  In a global panopticon where a mouse can’t sneeze without potentially being AI-robot facially-recognized via a nearby camera, why the fuck are people protesting about a sudden leap from anti-mask laws to mandatory mask laws?

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Bonus:  Nobody looks at me funny if I wear gloves.  Thanks, Covid!

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So f-g tired of the virus discussion, but there is ZERO excitement in btc space (after the MSTR 'thing')-option expiration on Fri, will see how it goes.

Alas, here are my 2c on masks. Apparently, you get viral antigen exposure when you wear them. The easiest explanation-virus gets stuck in the mask, dries up, then you breeze it in, don't get disease because the virus is already dead, but viral protein is so antigenic that you get an immune response.
It's not really proven, but here are some links:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/health/covid-masks-immunity.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-09-mask-immunity-covid-viral-dose.html
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Wear your mask.

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September 22, 2020, 06:12:21 PM

(10% of total stash)

Total stash as in the stash you started from? So you can only cash out 10 times?

or 10% of remaining stash, so you can cash out... well forever?

Sorry about the ambiguity of my earlier outline.

I am meaning 10% of the stash at the time of the cashening out....

Of course, you can put the numbers into a spreadsheet projection and tweak your approach once you see it all laid out, to even make the percentage to be variable rather than set - while attempting to achieve your personal objectives (presumably financial and psychological) at various price points along the way.

Let's say that this week (or today) while we are bouncing around in the $10,480 price arena, you project your strategy for BTC prices down to $4k and up to $1million, so of course, in that scenario, you have figured out the "how much" question based on right now circumstances, but since you are calculating this week (or today), you have not really figured out the time aspect, and as many of us likely realize quite a few things can change with the passage of time.  So in some sense, our creation of our BTC plan today, has largely accounted for if the BTC prices were largely going to go shooting (in a short period of time) straight down to $4k (what we gonna do?) or shooting up to $1million (what we gonna do?)

Of course, your whole personality and your whole way of interacting with the world is likely NOT going to all of a sudden change, yet your planning and your living through your plan may cause you some differing perspectives on life, time preferences and even changes in your life circumstances or health.. that may cause you to have to look back at your earlier BTC plan and to make some changes to it.   

Another thing that may cause you to make changes to your BTC plan along the way is that with the passage of time, some aspects of your plan end up getting executed upon rather than being hypothetical, so in that regard, you have executed various parts of the "what you gonna do" aspect of your plan... which would likely cause you to have to tweak your BTC plan to account for the having had carried out part(s) of the plan that had previously been hypothetical.

Let's say you are largely following your BTC plan and your personal circumstances have not changed very much along the way, but as you keep executing aspects of your plan, you have to plug the execution portion into the plan because it is no longer hypothetical... and of course, if the BTC price moves really fast in one direction or another, then it seems more likely that your plan would largely get followed without hardly any tweaks to it because such plan is based on a kind of current assessment of "whatchagonnado" - but if aspects of your plan ends up remaining hypothetical for long periods of time, then along the way, you would attempt to account for any substantive, meaningful and material changes in your life along the way in order to ensure (from your own psychological and financial perspective) that you still are feeling comfortable with each and all of the particulars as they appear in your spreadsheet projection of "whatchagonnado".
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