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April 21, 2013, 08:04:30 PM
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Do you know for a fact, that scores were reset just immediately before the end of the block?

Yeah, I happened to be watching - I was gutted.

K.

So what happens to all them nice BTC that are *LOST*

joolz

joolzg,

here are the details of how the score based rewarding works: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002
This is to prevent pool hopping / protect "honest miners".

Additionally, the scores are reset periodically, as Kruncha said - this reset has bitten us right now based on his observations.

Cheers,
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April 21, 2013, 08:09:14 PM
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Block 17605 me also

But my other question is that before the ddos and now i seem to have a reward of 30% less. My cards are the same and my hash rate has gone up by 2%.

joolz

#   Block trouvé le   Durée   Total de shares    Your shares    Votre récompense en BTC    Block #   Block value   Validité
17606    2013-04-21 17:36:44    0:30:55    4169985    453    0.00258628    232453    25.30960000    82 confirmations restantes
17605    2013-04-21 17:05:49    3:17:57    26808706    3062    0.00009756    232447    25.50522181    76 confirmations restantes
17604    2013-04-21 13:47:52    0:33:45    4652074    553    0.00314532    232426    25.27785001    55 confirmations restantes

I confirm 17605 has something wrong.

3062/26808706 * 25.50522181 = 0.00291312 (since i did not stop my 3 GPUs)
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April 21, 2013, 08:10:41 PM
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Block 17605 me also

But my other question is that before the ddos and now i seem to have a reward of 30% less. My cards are the same and my hash rate has gone up by 2%.

joolz

#   Block trouvé le   Durée   Total de shares    Your shares    Votre récompense en BTC    Block #   Block value   Validité
17606    2013-04-21 17:36:44    0:30:55    4169985    453    0.00258628    232453    25.30960000    82 confirmations restantes
17605    2013-04-21 17:05:49    3:17:57    26808706    3062    0.00009756    232447    25.50522181    76 confirmations restantes
17604    2013-04-21 13:47:52    0:33:45    4652074    553    0.00314532    232426    25.27785001    55 confirmations restantes

I confirm 17605 has something wrong.

3062/26808706 * 25.50522181 = 0.00291312 (since i did not stop my 3 GPUs)

not any more, corrected as i speak

joolz
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April 21, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
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Would it be possible to get a maintenance mode? Yesterday I had to wait for more then 4 hours for block to end so I could shout down miners for some maintenance. I'm not asking for much but to be able to use this option 1 per mount and rewords would be calculated not with slash method but with some other more linear one for block when it was started... Or maybe with slash but it would use the time of the start of maintenance mode as a end of a block... If this is too difficult I understand and I have a work around. When I plan to do that and I don't forget I switch to BTC Guild and PPS at earlier time so I can turn down miners whenever I like. But I would like to see a way to do it without waiting for the end of a block.

Perhaps a better way to ask would be "Slush can we have PPS here to and I don't mind paying a little extra. Please?"

However on average it doesn't matter when you shut your miners down for maintenance if it's often enough. Over time, your earnings will be than better than on a PPS pool with a greater fee.

Good idea. Switch to PPS at the end of the block option...
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Well, no. Because payout is proportional, you'd have to have PPS from the start of a block.

And if you look from statistical point solo would be the best way to go. Did any of that in near past?

No. Why?
OK we tough the same thing... So yes when the block finish it switches automatic to PPS... And I wouldn't care if it is limited to lets say 1 day per mount.

Why solo. It is best long turn solution. Best payout... Since you told me that if I'm doing enough maintenance it doesn't mater...
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April 21, 2013, 08:16:07 PM
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I guess i was wrong about the reason then Roll Eyes

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April 21, 2013, 08:18:03 PM
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Block 17605 me also

But my other question is that before the ddos and now i seem to have a reward of 30% less. My cards are the same and my hash rate has gone up by 2%.

joolz

#   Block trouvé le   Durée   Total de shares    Your shares    Votre récompense en BTC    Block #   Block value   Validité
17606    2013-04-21 17:36:44    0:30:55    4169985    453    0.00258628    232453    25.30960000    82 confirmations restantes
17605    2013-04-21 17:05:49    3:17:57    26808706    3062    0.00009756    232447    25.50522181    76 confirmations restantes
17604    2013-04-21 13:47:52    0:33:45    4652074    553    0.00314532    232426    25.27785001    55 confirmations restantes

I confirm 17605 has something wrong.

3062/26808706 * 25.50522181 = 0.00291312 (since i did not stop my 3 GPUs)

not any more, corrected as i speak

joolz


I confirm, corrected here as well.

Cheers,
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April 21, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
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not any more, corrected as i speak

joolz

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Indeed. Good news :>

0.00285495 now. (I also forgot slush's part ^^ sorry to hear his problem with OVH, hope it's not the ones in Roubaix ... )
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April 21, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
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17605 seemed normal, maybe 15% better the recent.

Got 0.0074
Normal 0.0065-0.007


17605   2013-04-21 17:05:49   3:17:57   26807937   7972   0.00743291   0.05582611   232447   25.50522181    75 confirmations left

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April 21, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
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Thanks Slush for taking action on the weird block.
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April 22, 2013, 12:01:56 AM
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Speaking of ' Weird Block ' ... since having to kill all the blocks my wallet had and restarting my PC ( and reloading the backup wallet ) I have yet to get more than 3 connections to the bitcoin network and re-re-re-download any blocks....

Not going to blame anyone, just thought it was weird and with the random DDoS attacks that have been reported lately kinda makes the paranoid inside me wonder if there isn't some US government conspiracy going on since it is a decentralized currency they have no influence over ( unless they started their own mining pool )......

any one else have to kill the wallet's data files and not get any blocks in the last ..... 24 hours? ( -8 GMT at 5pm Pacific time )

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April 22, 2013, 02:19:30 AM
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Speaking of ' Weird Block ' ... since having to kill all the blocks my wallet had and restarting my PC ( and reloading the backup wallet ) I have yet to get more than 3 connections to the bitcoin network and re-re-re-download any blocks....

Not going to blame anyone, just thought it was weird and with the random DDoS attacks that have been reported lately kinda makes the paranoid inside me wonder if there isn't some US government conspiracy going on since it is a decentralized currency they have no influence over ( unless they started their own mining pool )......

any one else have to kill the wallet's data files and not get any blocks in the last ..... 24 hours? ( -8 GMT at 5pm Pacific time )

I had a problem with Bitcoin-QT throwing corrupted database errors. Even deleting and re-sync the block chain I had the same error. I backed up my wallet.dat file and used an online wallet since then.
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April 22, 2013, 04:01:59 AM
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Speaking of ' Weird Block ' ... since having to kill all the blocks my wallet had and restarting my PC ( and reloading the backup wallet ) I have yet to get more than 3 connections to the bitcoin network and re-re-re-download any blocks....

Not going to blame anyone, just thought it was weird and with the random DDoS attacks that have been reported lately kinda makes the paranoid inside me wonder if there isn't some US government conspiracy going on since it is a decentralized currency they have no influence over ( unless they started their own mining pool )......

any one else have to kill the wallet's data files and not get any blocks in the last ..... 24 hours? ( -8 GMT at 5pm Pacific time )

I had a problem with Bitcoin-QT throwing corrupted database errors. Even deleting and re-sync the block chain I had the same error. I backed up my wallet.dat file and used an online wallet since then.

I just updated my wallet after a week or so with bitcoin-qt - didn't see any errors.

The DDoS attacks were anything but random - they were an ill-conceived attempt to manipulate the difficulty update. If I had more time, I'd try to calculate the effectiveness of it, but i'm certain it had very little effect coming so late in the cycle, and particularly with the fluidity of the mining public. I'm sure most miners simply think of BTC as a bit of a game to play, but we are involved in a very serious business which is coming under exceptional pressures.

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April 22, 2013, 09:17:11 AM
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I resolved my wallet issues from a few pages ago.

The next question coming out of the IRC chat room is, will FAQBot return?  He's been gone since the DoSSes happened, and we miss our notifications of a new block being found. Smiley
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April 22, 2013, 09:25:34 AM
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Uff, there're too much posts since my last visit on friday. Shortly:

a) Yes, I fixed one round yesterday, where rewards were calculated wrongly.
b) Pool works since DDoS. If you have connection issues, you've probably wrong DNS records. Never ever use direct IPs,as I'm moving Stratum backends between servers/datacenters.
c) Database crashed few minutes ago. I fixed it in ~15 minutes, mining backends worked all time so no block has been lost. Just shares were not counted for this period. Everything is working normally again, just statistics are now screwed up because of database downtime.
d) FAQbot is up again Smiley

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April 22, 2013, 12:17:09 PM
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Thanks for keeping a sharp eye, everyone.  I'm not currently paying such close attention to the blocks and rewards, since I'm assuming everything is working as planned.  It's nice to know there are people with their finger on the pulse, and a responsible sysop that is fixing things. 
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April 22, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
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Uff, there're too much posts since my last visit on friday. Shortly:

a) Yes, I fixed one round yesterday, where rewards were calculated wrongly.
b) Pool works since DDoS. If you have connection issues, you've probably wrong DNS records. Never ever use direct IPs,as I'm moving Stratum backends between servers/datacenters.
c) Database crashed few minutes ago. I fixed it in ~15 minutes, mining backends worked all time so no block has been lost. Just shares were not counted for this period. Everything is working normally again, just statistics are now screwed up because of database downtime.
d) FAQbot is up again Smiley

Slush you must have the patience of a saint.  With all these repeat questions and impossible requests, I don't think I would be quite so civil.  Although, i guess it's easy to not be an ass online.  Just don't post... lol

And to all those looking for Slush to redo the algorithm to include PPS at the end of the round... It will never happen.  IF the algorithm gets changed, it will be to DGM, or some other hopping proof method.  It's a HUGE undertaking to change how the payouts are calculated, and to add in any form of PPS would be a step back in the consistency of payouts from this pool.

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April 22, 2013, 01:33:39 PM
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Uff, there're too much posts since my last visit on friday. Shortly:

a) Yes, I fixed one round yesterday, where rewards were calculated wrongly.
b) Pool works since DDoS. If you have connection issues, you've probably wrong DNS records. Never ever use direct IPs,as I'm moving Stratum backends between servers/datacenters.
c) Database crashed few minutes ago. I fixed it in ~15 minutes, mining backends worked all time so no block has been lost. Just shares were not counted for this period. Everything is working normally again, just statistics are now screwed up because of database downtime.
d) FAQbot is up again Smiley

Slush you must have the patience of a saint.  With all these repeat questions and impossible requests, I don't think I would be quite so civil.  Although, i guess it's easy to not be an ass online.  Just don't post... lol

And to all those looking for Slush to redo the algorithm to include PPS at the end of the round... It will never happen.  IF the algorithm gets changed, it will be to DGM, or some other hopping proof method.  It's a HUGE undertaking to change how the payouts are calculated, and to add in any form of PPS would be a step back in the consistency of payouts from this pool.

I like the method how it is, I sometimes loose out when the time resets because i'm a slow miner, but, sometimes I earn more because of a lucky few quick submissions before the end. I love the lottery element and still make more than doing PPS even when times are rough.

and, thanks Slush, you seem a really sound geezer Smiley

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April 22, 2013, 02:08:26 PM
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irc chat room is that a slush specific chatroom or a bitcoin talk in general and where would i find it
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April 22, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
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irc chat room is that a slush specific chatroom or a bitcoin talk in general and where would i find it


Is specific to slush's pool

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April 22, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
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irc chat room is that a slush specific chatroom or a bitcoin talk in general and where would i find it


If your looking for support specific to slush's site you can click on 'live support' on the left hand side of the 'my account' page on slush's website.

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