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May 01, 2013, 08:49:53 PM
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The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.
If a pool is biased in favor of high performance miners, it is not a fair pool and should be abandoned by all but the single highest performing miner.
As far as I can see this is not the case. I have only 1.3 and I can't call myself high powered miner but fast enough to luck not to play any effect. So when I have no problems I can use total reword/total shares*my shares and see minimal difference... But I do see hi penalty if I have any connection problems at the end of the run.

Hi performance and good connections usually goes hand in hand... So that why you might have that filing...
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May 01, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
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I would say for extremely fast blocks yes.  Once I lucked out and got a share off a 2s block really nice payout same as 3-4 normal blocks.

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May 01, 2013, 08:54:18 PM
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The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.

I believe the use of "seconds since round start" is the problem, really. It should really be a function of shares since round start, however that would mean a lot of extra computational effort to keep track of. Use of seconds is a decent approximation, and is fair over the long term (assuming perfect uptime).

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May 01, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
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No my average last week was about 0.053/day but there were outages, etc.  Off ~1200MH/s. 
Well that caps it for me.  In "5% fee" pool, Last week (before reset of Diff.) I was solid at 0.06/24 hours for rig that varies between 1.05 - 1.15GH/s as it adjusts to ambient temp/cooling.  No outages on my end - 25/15Mbit fiber link to house.
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May 01, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
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I've only tried 50BTC and Slush's Pool, but I am certain that I get better rewards here for my efforts. If the rewards where slightly in favor of 50BTC, I would still stay here - When the shit hits the fan, Slush is always ready with his baseball bat to protect the pool.

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May 01, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
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I've only tried 50BTC and Slush's Pool, but I am certain that I get better rewards here for my efforts. If the rewards where slightly in favor of 50BTC, I would still stay here - When the shit hits the fan, Slush is always ready with his baseball bat to protect the pool.

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May 01, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
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OK - I'm really not getting how these blocks are being scored.

For two similar blocks - on this block, I got in 115 shares in 2:18 and got .00032359 for it.

17770   2013-04-30 17:34:10   2:18:03   15697265   115   0.00032359

But on this block, I got in more shares (132) in less time (2:03) and there were fewer total shares, but I got 0.000 ??

17774   2013-04-30 20:25:35   2:03:23   14233698   132   0.00000000
it's all timing. here is from a CPU miner and 1 share on 2 different blocks ( mine )

#      Block found at           Duration     Total shares    Your shares  Your BTC reward   Block #   Block value
17775  2013-04-30 23:59:52      3:34:17      24772020       1           0.00000369        233974    25.23872222
17774  2013-04-30 20:25:35      2:03:23      14233698       1           0.00000000        233955    25.34648117

I happened to be home to watch as the 2nd share was Near The End of the round ( 80+ in Current shares CDF: )
so, i'll take it and as far as the getting 0E-8 goes, I'm waiting on some 86ooGT cards to hopefully get out of CPU mining and get a higher hash rate.
this is a ' typical ' block for me when sooo many are connected and getting shares.....

17759    2013-04-30 01:20:57     5:01:48         34198356       3           0.00000000       233836    25.46175733

Not detered, more resolved and liking it  Cool
just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round

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May 01, 2013, 09:10:33 PM
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I'm hoping after the last few weeks all pools have experienced, he has upgraded his baseball bat to an armored van with mounted turrets.
Right on... The onyl thing I dislike is that we dont have merged mining for nmc, dvcm, ixc on stratum. It would be 10% more income and I don't like losing that and I need to fight myself not to change to some pool that have that... Even Slush would get 10% so I relay don't get his position...
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May 01, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
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OK - I'm really not getting how these blocks are being scored.

For two similar blocks - on this block, I got in 115 shares in 2:18 and got .00032359 for it.

17770   2013-04-30 17:34:10   2:18:03   15697265   115   0.00032359

But on this block, I got in more shares (132) in less time (2:03) and there were fewer total shares, but I got 0.000 ??

17774   2013-04-30 20:25:35   2:03:23   14233698   132   0.00000000
it's all timing. here is from a CPU miner and 1 share on 2 different blocks ( mine )

#      Block found at           Duration     Total shares    Your shares  Your BTC reward   Block #   Block value
17775  2013-04-30 23:59:52      3:34:17      24772020       1           0.00000369        233974    25.23872222
17774  2013-04-30 20:25:35      2:03:23      14233698       1           0.00000000        233955    25.34648117

I happened to be home to watch as the 2nd share was Near The End of the round ( 80+ in Current shares CDF: )
so, i'll take it and as far as the getting 0E-8 goes, I'm waiting on some 86ooGT cards to hopefully get out of CPU mining and get a higher hash rate.
this is a ' typical ' block for me when sooo many are connected and getting shares.....

17759    2013-04-30 01:20:57     5:01:48         34198356       3           0.00000000       233836    25.46175733

Not detered, more resolved and liking it  Cool
just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round


If you are seriously trying to make something off of CPU mining, you should not be with slush.  You should find yourself a straight up PPS pool and stay there.  Please take the advice to heart.

There is nothing wrong with Slush's pool that's causing your returns.  It's working the way he has designed it.  CPU mining doesn't pay off, so Slush won't support it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to blast you, just saying how it is.  It will benefit you to find a straight up pps pool.

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May 01, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
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just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round

Unfortunally for such long round you probably need last minute not last minutes at that speed...
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May 01, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
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just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round

Unfortunally for such long round you probably need last minute not last minutes at that speed...

I with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5145 capable of 7.7Mhash/s at top speed can say this is not quite true. Last few minutes are fine.

btw, I am stuck at BTC0.0037. Maybe someone would like to help me reach the minimum payout threshold? I'd pay you your fair share for the work and cover the commission.

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May 01, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
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just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round

Unfortunally for such long round you probably need last minute not last minutes at that speed...

I with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5145 capable of 7.7Mhash/s at top speed can say this is not quite true. Last few minutes are fine.

btw, I am stuck at BTC0.0037. Maybe someone would like to help me reach the minimum payout threshold? I'd pay you your fair share for the work and cover the commission.

If you post a worker name and password here (it's safe - people can only use it to mine for you), I'll help a little till the end of the round - I'm a slow miner as well though.

I wouldn't require any payment from you, and maybe in little donations of time from different users you can reach your goal.

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May 01, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
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If you post a worker name and password here (it's safe - people can only use it to mine for you), I'll help a little till the end of the round - I'm a slow miner as well though.

I wouldn't require any payment from you, and maybe in little donations of time from different users you can reach your goal.

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I will give you my miner smaller miner(468) for one block....

Don't worry for user and password. The only thing anyone can do is mine for you. You can't be hacked... EDIT: unless it is the same password as your account...

P.S.: there is a difference in 7.7 and 1...
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just got back home and checked what the morning CPU mining did... total of 7 shares found, dificulty 1 ( max of 1.1MHash/sec when firefox is closed etc ) and find the following block is calculated ( and time showing last 2 of them were at end of round )

17791    2013-05-01 20:01:25  5:00:24 36782329  7 0.00000000    234096   25.58139100

normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round

Unfortunally for such long round you probably need last minute not last minutes at that speed...

I with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5145 capable of 7.7Mhash/s at top speed can say this is not quite true. Last few minutes are fine.

btw, I am stuck at BTC0.0037. Maybe someone would like to help me reach the minimum payout threshold? I'd pay you your fair share for the work and cover the commission.

If you post a worker name and password here (it's safe - people can only use it to mine for you), I'll help a little till the end of the round - I'm a slow miner as well though.

I wouldn't require any payment from you, and maybe in little donations of time from different users you can reach your goal.

K.

Thanks! I really appreciate this! I didn't think this would take that long. I'm struggling since 12 April.

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May 01, 2013, 09:52:28 PM
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mining seems to be a choice of pour money at it and get big rigs/asic or sift little and often and try to chip away at the mess of 0s to get some im only a tiny player myself and now after almost 1 month have .4 btc
unless your on a laptop you might look into getting a cheap gpu even a 57xx will give you about 100-150mhash
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May 01, 2013, 09:53:35 PM
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there is a difference in 7.7 and 1...

Sometimes I manage to mine a single share in an hour, sometimes two within a minute. No doubt there is a difference, but I call myself experienced at slow speeds Cheesy

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May 01, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
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there is a difference in 7.7 and 1...

Sometimes I manage to mine a single share in an hour, sometimes two within a minute. No doubt there is a difference, but I call myself experienced at slow speeds Cheesy

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Thank you!

1mhesh is less then one share per hour so if your miner doesn't send any shares for 30 minutes your score is reseted... This is a big difference from 7.7 to 1...

Forgot to add. It is a donation...
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May 01, 2013, 09:59:44 PM
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hey guys this would be my 1st post here. Smiley

Based on my experience here at slush pool having just 85 mh/s average The reward here is great! For example 24 shares on 26 mins block my reward is arround 0.0003.(this figure for me is great with just 85 mh/s). The only thing i notice is that if ever there is a connection issue or outage you will likely see a lot of zeros even if you have shares.

 Waiting for my 2 sapphire 5850 gpu (low on budget) which will arrive next week. Imagine getting 600-700 mh/s. I think it would be fantastic.


Quit mining at the moment.
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May 01, 2013, 10:00:22 PM
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Thanks! I really appreciate this! I didn't think this would take that long. I'm struggling since 12 April.

Your welcome Smiley

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May 01, 2013, 10:01:47 PM
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mining seems to be a choice of pour money at it and get big rigs/asic or sift little and often and try to chip away at the mess of 0s to get some im only a tiny player myself and now after almost 1 month have .4 btc
unless your on a laptop you might look into getting a cheap gpu even a 57xx will give you about 100-150mhash


I am on a laptop, and that's a huge offset. Nevertheless, I've learned a lot. I've also managed to worsen my browser display output setting up ATI drivers but that's another story Cheesy

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