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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4328459 times)
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November 30, 2012, 03:19:34 AM
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Yay I found my second block!
Sadly I wasn't using stratum because diablominer doesn't do it and guiminer has never worked well with my two gpus.

I've spent hours trying to figure this out since slush posted the extra payout on the 27th.  Guess I will abandon diablominer and find another because it will happen again in another 6 months.

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November 30, 2012, 10:59:36 AM
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tinman, pool isn't giving transaction fees to the finder of the block, but fees are calculated proportionally for Stratum miners. So you didn't miss anything and installing stratum miner still gives you the benefit of tx fees :-).

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November 30, 2012, 11:07:47 AM
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Odd Question and most likely a simple answer.

I understand that the 210,000 block has come and gone and that the rewards for blocks are now only 25 coins rather then 50.  So simple math should show that my work reward is now halved.

IE:  2778 mHash/s
      3438908 Difficulty
      0.405 Coins per day
      0.033 Coins per hour

But in the last 24 hours, I have seen less then half of my normal reward for work.  I was lucky enough to have my threshold sent almost exactly at midnight  and from past experience Slush has always been spot on with my reward calculator. So I do not understand why my currently standing rewards are sitting at:  0.049 after 5 hours of work   With the above figures, that have held true for the last 8 months, I should be at 0.15.

Now these figures do not include "Unconfirmed Reward", cause those have never in my experience showed add to the total.  The above math has always been with "Confirmed Reward", and I could always forecast payouts within an hour or two.

I can understand a 50% cut cause of the 210,000 block, but im currently sitting at 85% cut after the 210,000 block.

So can anyone explain why my rewards have dropped 68% past the normal halving?  Or is this just a case that after a week, everything will balance out?






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November 30, 2012, 11:11:46 AM
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So can anyone explain why my rewards have dropped 68% past the normal halving?  Or is this just a case that after a week, everything will balance out?

Natural variance. You should not judge anything using so short time frame.

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November 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
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Odd Question and most likely a simple answer.

I understand that the 210,000 block has come and gone and that the rewards for blocks are now only 25 coins rather then 50.  So simple math should show that my work reward is now halved.

IE:  2778 mHash/s
      3438908 Difficulty
      0.405 Coins per day
      0.033 Coins per hour

But in the last 24 hours, I have seen less then half of my normal reward for work.  I was lucky enough to have my threshold sent almost exactly at midnight  and from past experience Slush has always been spot on with my reward calculator. So I do not understand why my currently standing rewards are sitting at:  0.049 after 5 hours of work   With the above figures, that have held true for the last 8 months, I should be at 0.15.

Now these figures do not include "Unconfirmed Reward", cause those have never in my experience showed add to the total.  The above math has always been with "Confirmed Reward", and I could always forecast payouts within an hour or two.

I can understand a 50% cut cause of the 210,000 block, but im currently sitting at 85% cut after the 210,000 block.

So can anyone explain why my rewards have dropped 68% past the normal halving?  Or is this just a case that after a week, everything will balance out?



yeah, that's just the nature of the network.  In the past 24 hours you've been below normal, but you will have days that are way above normal too.  That's why slush has the "luck" stats on the stats page.   The 24hr luck on the stats page is at about 65%, which would likely explain the difference...

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November 30, 2012, 03:41:05 PM
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Odd Question and most likely a simple answer.

I understand that the 210,000 block has come and gone and that the rewards for blocks are now only 25 coins rather then 50.  So simple math should show that my work reward is now halved.

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So can anyone explain why my rewards have dropped 68% past the normal halving?  Or is this just a case that after a week, everything will balance out?



yeah, that's just the nature of the network.  In the past 24 hours you've been below normal, but you will have days that are way above normal too.  That's why slush has the "luck" stats on the stats page.   The 24hr luck on the stats page is at about 65%, which would likely explain the difference...

It's also the nature of slush's reward method. It has much higher variance than other methods.

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December 01, 2012, 02:24:24 AM
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Do I need to do anything different to make a stratum miner version of CGminer to work?

I enter in the URL, same settings has cgminer 2.7.5 and any version with stratum support doesn't connect at all.

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December 01, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
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Do I need to do anything different to make a stratum miner version of CGminer to work?

I enter in the URL, same settings has cgminer 2.7.5 and any version with stratum support doesn't connect at all.

Enter "localhost" in the url, once the proxy program is running
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December 01, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
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Do I need to do anything different to make a stratum miner version of CGminer to work?

I enter in the URL, same settings has cgminer 2.7.5 and any version with stratum support doesn't connect at all.

You don't need proxy for latest cgminer at all. cgminer has native support already. You need proxy only if you have more mining rigs on the same location and you want to use only one upstream connection to the pool.

Edit: You don't need to change any settings with latest cgminer, it will detect Stratum interface automatically on startup.

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December 01, 2012, 06:55:19 PM
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I made minor website update:

* Worker list on profile page displays hashrate per worker (yay, let's celebrate!)
* Worker lists shows if worker is mining on Stratum interface
* Profile displays quite annoying deprecation warning when your miners are using getwork interface.

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December 01, 2012, 09:59:57 PM
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Interesting thing.  I am using cgminer and things were going well but now I have had a tremendous increase in rejected shares.

stratum proxy from slush says:

2012-12-01 14:53:33,588 INFO proxy stratum_listener.submit # [153ms] Share from
'tinman951.-01' REJECTED: (-2, u'Share is above target', None)
2012-12-01 14:53:42,135 INFO proxy client_service.handle_event # New job 782d fo
r prevhash bb4d496c, clean_jobs=False

This log was recorded at 21:53 GMT/UCT timezone.
While CGminer (2.9.5-win.32) says about the same.  
I quit the two and then restarted the proxy app (from slush) then cgminer.  Seems to have fixed it.  What was it about?  How did my miner get hashes that were above the target?

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December 02, 2012, 03:59:31 AM
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Hey, so I recently switched over to Stratum mining. My rejects have gone down from 1% to 0.1% but it seems NMC mining is broken. Before I'd get ~0.02 NMC almost every round (no reward only once every 10-20 rounds); now, half of the rounds give me "none" NMC. Any ideas? Or is it just a crazy string of coincidences?
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December 02, 2012, 04:33:21 AM
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Do I need to do anything different to make a stratum miner version of CGminer to work?

I enter in the URL, same settings has cgminer 2.7.5 and any version with stratum support doesn't connect at all.

You don't need proxy for latest cgminer at all. cgminer has native support already. You need proxy only if you have more mining rigs on the same location and you want to use only one upstream connection to the pool.

Edit: You don't need to change any settings with latest cgminer, it will detect Stratum interface automatically on startup.
That's the problem. It detects it, tries to connect to it, then fails. It says my username/pass could be incorrect. However with the same settings the current version I use works over the normal protocol.

No matter if I enter the info manually with a blank config, or copy the config over, it doesn't connect.

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December 02, 2012, 05:46:45 AM
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Just updated GUI Miner to 11/18/12 version, and your site still says I'm not using stratum...is there anything else I need to change?

Should I be using OpenCL or CG?



2012-12-02 00:59:56: Listener for "Newer": 02/12/2012 00:59:56, started OpenCL miner on platform 0, device 0 (Cayman)
2012-12-02 00:59:56: Listener for "Newer": api2.bitcoin.cz:8332 02/12/2012 00:59:56, checking for stratum...
2012-12-02 00:59:56: Listener for "Newer": api2.bitcoin.cz:8332 02/12/2012 00:59:56, diverted to stratum on api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
2012-12-02 01:00:06: Listener for "Newer": api2.bitcoin.cz:8332 02/12/2012 01:00:06, Failed to subscribe
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December 02, 2012, 11:39:22 AM
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Interesting thing.  I am using cgminer and things were going well but now I have had a tremendous increase in rejected shares.

I quit the two and then restarted the proxy app (from slush) then cgminer.  Seems to have fixed it.  What was it about?  How did my miner get hashes that were above the target?

There are some edge cases during network outage/reconnections, when proxy reconnects, but cgminer doesn't know about it. This ends up with sending garbled shares. I'm currently working on fix for proxy, should be available today.

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December 02, 2012, 11:41:18 AM
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Hey, so I recently switched over to Stratum mining. My rejects have gone down from 1% to 0.1% but it seems NMC mining is broken. Before I'd get ~0.02 NMC almost every round (no reward only once every 10-20 rounds); now, half of the rounds give me "none" NMC. Any ideas? Or is it just a crazy string of coincidences?

It is just coincidence. As Stratum miner, you still collects namecoins as on getwork. Just the pool namecoin hashrate is going down with higher % of stratum miners, because stratum backend doesn't have merged mining.

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December 02, 2012, 11:43:05 AM
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No matter if I enter the info manually with a blank config, or copy the config over, it doesn't connect.

Please be sure you typed worker credentials correctly. Everything is case sensitive. If it still fails, can you report it to cgminer thread?

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December 02, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
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Just updated GUI Miner to 11/18/12 version, and your site still says I'm not using stratum...is there anything else I need to change?

Port blocking? I really have no idea, there's not too much things which can fail during subscription. Can you report it to poclbm thread? (not GUIminer thread, but poclbm!)

Can you try it once again? I found there was load balancer misconfiguration which may introduce such problems.

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December 02, 2012, 12:15:12 PM
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If you recently had some issues during miner startup on Statum, please try it again now. I found some problem on balancer which is fixed now.

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December 02, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
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So...I updated all my miners to the latest cgminer but the Stratum column still says no for all of them.  Is there something else I need to do?

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