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April 16, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
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Oh no. My favorite and so far only BTC pool DDoSed.
This last week would be remebered as bitcoin wars.
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April 16, 2013, 10:35:09 PM
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If you're using stratum miners, but you still uses "api.bitcoin.cz:8332", be sure to use "stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333" to avoid hanging your stratum miner on dead getwork pool...

Sorry for noob question but where do i change that? i use guiminer v2012-12-03

Server: Other
Host: stratum.bitcoin.cz
Port: 3333
(rest should be self-explanatory)

It does not work right now, but when the situation will be ok then it should work.
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April 16, 2013, 10:55:14 PM
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Yes, it's down again.

Btw guys at OVH (my datacentre) totally failed, in contrast to their original promises. I had "plan b)", that stratum machine actually has many "hidden" IPs which were supposed to be for use of "trusted miners" in case of DDoS. Unfortunately this plan b) failed, because these idiots at OVH null-routed all these IPs at once *facepalm*.

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April 16, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
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How long until the script kiddies get bored and go away?

How long do the denial of service attacks typically last?

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April 16, 2013, 11:02:25 PM
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I also received some "DDoS mitigation" offers. No, I'm not going to play this game anymore...

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April 16, 2013, 11:03:58 PM
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How long do the denial of service attacks typically last?

Until they get bored. I don't think anyone profits from this situation, and I think they can find better places for their zombies which give them more money/"reputation"/whatever.

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April 16, 2013, 11:07:51 PM
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Could they be attempting to get BTC Guild to >50% for some kind of attack?
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April 16, 2013, 11:08:36 PM
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I also received some "DDoS mitigation" offers. No, I'm not going to play this game anymore...
They're trying to sell you DDoS protection?
Or the did the folks responsible offer you a ransom?

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April 16, 2013, 11:14:40 PM
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Yes, it's down again.

Btw guys at OVH (my datacentre) totally failed, in contrast to their original promises. I had "plan b)", that stratum machine actually has many "hidden" IPs which were supposed to be for use of "trusted miners" in case of DDoS. Unfortunately this plan b) failed, because these idiots at OVH null-routed all these IPs at once *facepalm*.


will they know what to do next time?  can you do a trail run with them? or will they fail again next time? I hope they can improve their service
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April 16, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
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In the US, they call this game of bullying for payment "racketeering" ... it's what the mafia in the movies do when they intimidate 200 shop owners in a city with just a few scary-looking guys.

But in this case, the guys aren't that scary and they tend to get bored easily. And if they're traceable in any way, INTERPOL doesn't look kindly on them, and tosses their local authorities some info for an arrest.

But yes, a >50% attack does seem promising if they can manage to pull it off... it would require more than just mining pools to be valid, though. Everyone would have to use new clients and accept an invalid block in the blockchain, so that kind of crap just wouldn't work. They would have to also own the interconnections between all of the users, as well. The pools are just a facilitation for everyone to make a little extra; they're not repositories for Bitcoins. The mines are on individual systems; the pools just make sure that there is some distribution of wealth for everyone who commits to doing work. So this idea of trying to extort money from slush... yeah, lame.

DDoS attacks can last weeks, if they actually own the resources. If the botnet is not actually owned by the script kiddies (e.g., hijacked servers/zombied laptops, etc.) then tracing each line of attack is child's play, and it might only take a few hours to sort out. In the case of the sustained DDoS attacks on the Iran government's public servers in Texas (during the 2009 elections, where there was a lot of exposure to the violence that Iran carries out on its population), for example, it was estimated that there were over 5000 server owners and up to 15000 end users who were all participating (the numbers are difficult to be certain about, and being on the same physical machine as the Iran government made me nervous, when I found out--I didn't wanna be shut down!)... the ISP had its hands full for almost a month trying to shut out the attackers, who wound up being over 1/4 of the US's IP address blocks in that time (who says there aren't advantages to having a dynamic IP on your internet account? Certainly, those attackers saw it and took full advantage of it, much to the dismay of both the ISP and the Iranians).

But in the end, I didn't have much service disruption... they somehow attacked only Iran's server. Most routers now have tracing built in, so even with anonymous forwarding you can still find the correct traffic streams and isolate where it came from, given enough time.

Most DDoS attacks are coordinated as individuals who have hijacked computers. Occasionally, there are as many as a dozen, but it's rare that it goes above this number. Generally, it's someone who wants to figure out a way to get money out of someone who is making it, which they then use to fuel other attacks. It's actually better for the world to just ride out the storm... usually they do just get bored and move on to someone else.

In slush's case, it's obvious that he's seen this happen before. I want slush to know I'm behind him 100% on this. Patience is a virtue I happen to have in abundance. When the site is up again, I'll be mining again. In the meantime, I'm just waiting and letting deep sighs and chuckles as I shake my head.

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April 16, 2013, 11:38:52 PM
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Also, I'm testing out some new software which is slush-specific. In fact, even though it's brand-new-barely-beta, it functions better for me than GUIminer.

Adding to that, while I don't mind making money, money is not the first reason I'm doing this.

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April 16, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
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I also received some "DDoS mitigation" offers. No, I'm not going to play this game anymore...

I suppose that they wanted to get paid in BTC?
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April 16, 2013, 11:54:34 PM
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Also, I'm testing out some new software which is slush-specific. In fact, even though it's brand-new-barely-beta, it functions better for me than GUIminer.

Adding to that, while I don't mind making money, money is not the first reason I'm doing this.

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April 16, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
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i'm hashing now making fat stacks

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April 17, 2013, 12:09:25 AM
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My miners have kicked on as well. The stratum proxy on a couple of my BAMT miners had automatically started working away as well. All good to go, just hoping the pool will start getting some block rewards now.

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April 17, 2013, 12:18:35 AM
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Why don't the mods ever prune these threads?

Is having all 314 some-odd pages really necessary?

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April 17, 2013, 12:28:27 AM
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looks like 50btc down now, heh.

do you guys have multiple pools set up in your miner, so if one goes down you keep on mining?

looks like cgminer supports multiple pools but i have not explored this functionality.

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April 17, 2013, 12:48:01 AM
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Yay, good job slush!

Screw those script kiddies!
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April 17, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
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Why don't the mods ever prune these threads?

Is having all 314 some-odd pages really necessary?


Yes. Every single one is a treasure, and must be preserved for future generations.

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April 17, 2013, 01:10:31 AM
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Hey guys, I set up a Stratum proxy towards the beginning of this whole whoohaa, but I am having some issues.

This is what is being spit out at me, either that or the one after, but any miner I try to use still can't connect using Stratum. It can, however, use the old GetWork protocol. If anyone has any tips or advice, please... I don't want to be paying an extra 8%...


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2013-04-16 21:09:05,535 INFO proxy jobs.<module> # C extension for midstate not available. Using default implementation instead.
2013-04-16 21:09:05,536 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # Stratum proxy version: 1.5.2
2013-04-16 21:09:05,541 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.test_update # Checking for updates...
2013-04-16 21:09:05,635 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # Trying to connect to Stratum pool at stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
Unhandled error in Deferred:
Unhandled Error
Traceback (most recent call last):
Failure: stratum.custom_exceptions.TransportException: SocketTransportClientFactory connection timed out


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2013-04-16 20:09:35,092 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.test_update # Checking for updates...
2013-04-16 20:09:35,190 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # Trying to connect to Stratum pool at stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
2013-04-16 20:09:35,287 INFO stats stats.print_stats # 1 peers connected, state changed 1 times
2013-04-16 20:09:35,287 INFO proxy mining_proxy.on_connect # Connected to Stratum pool at stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
2013-04-16 20:09:35,287 INFO proxy mining_proxy.on_connect # Subscribing for mining jobs
2013-04-16 20:09:40,381 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # -----------------------------------------------------------------------
2013-04-16 20:09:40,381 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # PROXY IS LISTENING ON ALL IPs ON PORT 3333 (stratum) AND 8332 (getwork)
2013-04-16 20:09:40,381 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # -----------------------------------------------------------------------
2013-04-16 20:09:40,381 INFO proxy client_service.handle_event # New job 47 for prevhash fdf2e0fd, clean_jobs=True
2013-04-16 20:09:49,023 INFO proxy client_service.handle_event # New job 48 for prevhash fdf2e0fd, clean_jobs=False
2013-04-16 20:10:19,033 INFO proxy client_service.handle_event # New job 49 for prevhash fdf2e0fd, clean_jobs=False


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