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April 25, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
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If you look at the account page on mining.bitcoin.cz, on the left hand news column, first item.  

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Pool is in normal operation, delayed payouts will be processed in the afternoon (UTC).

Which might mean any time from 12:00 to 23:59 UTC, a timespan of about 12h. It was just this month we saw the BTC price drop 60% in less than 6 hours...

I can assure you, you posting about it isn't going to speed things up.

Slush has to do his due diligence before he lets payments fly.  

Otherwise he could always just say screw it, anti wants his payment now so he can sell off a few quick btc while the market is hot.  Then when things get screwed up and hundreds of btc end up in the wrong place it's not his problem right?

If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.
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April 25, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley
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April 25, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
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Heya slush, several users are popping into IRC, stating that Confirmed/unconfirmed stats are not updating yet.  I don't know if this is a known issue, but I am seeing it on my own stat's page too.  Only estimated stats for current round looks to be working correctly.

This:

P.S. I'm sorry, auto transfer...

The pool currently calculates block rewards only; I'm waiting for the feedback if block rewards are calculated properly. Then I'll run block confirming process (and you'll finally see all coins as confirmed) and auto payouts.


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April 25, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

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April 25, 2013, 05:15:37 PM
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If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.

Yer a fkn idiot! Anyone who thinks that Slush is responsible for them mining on Slush's pool or ANYTHING that results from that needs a trout upside their stupid head!

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April 25, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
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xev can you give me the pools irc info please, and also has anything changed long term on how pool pays out or what
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April 25, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
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If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.

Yer a fkn idiot! Anyone who thinks that Slush is responsible for them mining on Slush's pool or ANYTHING that results from that needs a trout upside their stupid head!

Thank you

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April 25, 2013, 05:24:59 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

There have however been blocks found in the last 24 hours, and these are which I speak. Just because I am a "newb" to this board does not in any way mean I am a 'newb'. I have been mining and contributing to this comunity for quite some time. I just havent had the need to post on thiese forums ever.

Also, his quote specifically says he wants to make sure its calculating right before he confirms... I am speaking of unconfirmed, which he said WAS calculating. So please step back. Check your attitude at the door, and have a nice day.

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April 25, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
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I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

If said user is dumb enough to set a very high minimum payout....

I set mine to 0.5BTC. I see no reason to set it higher.

Of course if I was mining 10btc per day, I would scale that accordingly.

I have little sympathy for those using Slush to store their BTC.

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April 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
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Goal!

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April 25, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

There have however been blocks found in the last 24 hours, and these are which I speak. Just because I am a "newb" to this board does not in any way mean I am a 'newb'. I have been mining and contributing to this comunity for quite some time. I just havent had the need to post on thiese forums ever.

Also, his quote specifically says he wants to make sure its calculating right before he confirms... I am speaking of unconfirmed, which he said WAS calculating. So please step back. Check your attitude at the door, and have a nice day.



Slush's post still applies.  Regardless of what you were referring to, when he turns on the confirmation and payouts those stats will then be accurate.

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April 25, 2013, 05:31:16 PM
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First of all, Slush: great job!!
Second of all; Slush: great job!

You probably earn a decent living with the pool, but the way you reacted to this incident makes me believe you earn every penny! A lot of ppl can take an example of you!

Everything in my account looks fine except for one thing (not sure but thought I'd say)

Block http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000017c7516a1d78a1ae6d440ce4cab172691203cee0078bb3c26b5?site=slush is orphaned and still had payouts is that correct? I was under the assumption that orphaned blocks didn't count for payouts but I might be wrong..

As far as luck goes, if any pool deserves is its yours!

Thanks again!
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April 25, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
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Goal!

Finally!  Next one looks decent so far at least an hour or so vs 5 is better than nothing.

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April 25, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
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only block that looks iffy is

17661    2013-04-24 05:07:55

looks like 1/2 payout, but i can live with that.

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April 25, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
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If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.

Yer a fkn idiot! Anyone who thinks that Slush is responsible for them mining on Slush's pool or ANYTHING that results from that needs a trout upside their stupid head!

What?! So now I'm an idiot because the pool doesn't come with a proper disclaimer in the terms of service for such cases and some bastard tries to profit from that "legally" by sueing him? I guess such a person would certainly find some laws etc which regulate the pool in EU (assuming Slush operates from the EU) and could have very good arguments against him. If they just want to cash in, it wouldn't even matter to them whether Slush is responsible or not. And they might have a very good chance of winning such legal battles.

And you're calling me a fkn idiot for pointing to these risks?

EDIT: If this is impossible, prove me wrong.
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April 25, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
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Slush's post still applies.  Regardless of what you were referring to, when he turns on the confirmation and payouts those stats will then be accurate.
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Slush quote was "Pool is currently calculating block rewards, but payouts are not processed. I want to give you some time for a feedback, if block rewards are calculated +/- as expected. I need some rest now, but I'll incorporate your comments then and process payouts of your mined coins."

 I am not seeing unconfirmed block rewards being calculated as expected.... hence my post.


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April 25, 2013, 05:44:26 PM
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only block that looks iffy is

17661    2013-04-24 05:07:55

Good point.. A second look revealed block 17666 looks off too.. The rest looks great.. After you get some well deserved rest Slush..

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April 25, 2013, 05:48:03 PM
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Slush's post still applies.  Regardless of what you were referring to, when he turns on the confirmation and payouts those stats will then be accurate.
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Slush quote was "Pool is currently calculating block rewards, but payouts are not processed. I want to give you some time for a feedback, if block rewards are calculated +/- as expected. I need some rest now, but I'll incorporate your comments then and process payouts of your mined coins."

 I am not seeing unconfirmed block rewards being calculated as expected.... hence my post.



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And I'm telling you they are connected.  When he runs the payout/confirming process you will see your unconfirmed rewards sync with the block stats.

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April 25, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
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so to clarify payouts for blocks done outside the database will be paid as slush sees fit when he gets to it.
the pools running on amazons cloud for now.
no change to address still using stratum3.bitcoin.cz
statistics page may not be correct?
for stratum miners


im just trying to figure out where things stand without reading vitrol from angry people
i do note that the last few blocks on statistics show none for me even though ive had shares accepted, a simple yes no to each query will do thanks
and thanks slush for all your hard work.
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April 25, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
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I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

If said user is dumb enough to set a very high minimum payout....

I set mine to 0.5BTC. I see no reason to set it higher.

Of course if I was mining 10btc per day, I would scale that accordingly.

I have little sympathy for those using Slush to store their BTC.

Any noobs reading the above, don't forget if it's set to a too low value, say below 0.01, you may end up with a badly fragmented wallet and have to pay larger fees when you spend your coin.
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