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April 25, 2013, 04:48:06 PM
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Slush is down to 5%. No PPS is hurting it in my opinion. I tried both on BTC Guild and PPS is much more lucrative than PPLNS (I know Slush is different with SCORE). No wonder BTC Guild has started defaulting new workers to PPLNS.

BTC Guild's current PPS rate: 0.0000026464471419
My current PPS rate on slush's pool (avg. from the last 30 blocks): 0.0000026582937162

Even with the problems due to OVH being full of idiots and a 24h pool luck of 67%, I'm still making more here than I would have on BTC Guild...
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April 25, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
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Slush is down to 5%. No PPS is hurting it in my opinion. I tried both on BTC Guild and PPS is much more lucrative than PPLNS (I know Slush is different with SCORE). No wonder BTC Guild has started defaulting new workers to PPLNS.

I will be back to Slush when it stabilizes.

This 5% you speak of is a very poor number to quote right now. It is from blocks found in last 24hr. Also recovering from hack and ultra bad luck on the day.

At 7.5 Thash/s, pool is still easily 10-12% of total hashing power of the network.

Incidentally, the miners who stick by Slush during outages/hacks/ddos  get really nice fat payouts when all the knock-knees and fraidy-cats head for other pools  Grin

Seriously, for a couple years now I would just set my miners and then forget them.  I don't touch them unless something breaks.  If there is a problem with the pool, they may stop submitting shares, but slush is always right on top of things, and as soon as the pool comes back online, so do my miners.  I normally don't even know there was a problem until after it has been resolved.

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April 25, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
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Slush is down to 5%. No PPS is hurting it in my opinion. I tried both on BTC Guild and PPS is much more lucrative than PPLNS (I know Slush is different with SCORE). No wonder BTC Guild has started defaulting new workers to PPLNS.

BTC Guild's current PPS rate: 0.0000026464471419
My current PPS rate on slush's pool (avg. from the last 30 blocks): 0.0000026582937162

Even with the problems due to OVH being full of idiots and a 24h pool luck of 67%, I'm still making more here than I would have on BTC Guild...
and when the luck goes back too 100+ like it is most of the time we make almost twice that.

Just a simple miner trying to make it in this crazy digital world.
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April 25, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
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I am noticing that even though blocks are being found, my unconfirmed numbers are not changing at all. I know we wouldnt see any confirmations or payouts, but in the statistics page I see unconfirmed amounts that are not being added to my total for  unconfirmed.

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April 25, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
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Slush is down to 5%. No PPS is hurting it in my opinion. I tried both on BTC Guild and PPS is much more lucrative than PPLNS (I know Slush is different with SCORE). No wonder BTC Guild has started defaulting new workers to PPLNS.

BTC Guild's current PPS rate: 0.0000026464471419
My current PPS rate on slush's pool (avg. from the last 30 blocks): 0.0000026582937162

Even with the problems due to OVH being full of idiots and a 24h pool luck of 67%, I'm still making more here than I would have on BTC Guild...

Unfortunately, you can't consider Slush as being PPS as the payout is based on luck. But I was only making an observation in general between PPS and PPLNS systems from a pool that is consistent on the difference in payout bewteen the 2 methods. I was averaging around 0.06 BTC/day with PPLNS and almost 0.1 with PPS!

Not tying to dis-credit Slush in anyway.
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April 25, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
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I am noticing that even though blocks are being found, my unconfirmed numbers are not changing at all. I know we wouldnt see any confirmations or payouts, but in the statistics page I see unconfirmed amounts that are not being added to my total for  unconfirmed.

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we haven't found a block in almost 5 hours.  And before that everything seems to match up for me...

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April 25, 2013, 05:03:36 PM
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Thanks slush, looks pretty good on my end.  I hope you took a sleeping pill and are knocked out for 10+ hours.

what's with all the nublets in the thread now, I feel dirty reading all that nonsense.
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April 25, 2013, 05:04:16 PM
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Heya slush, several users are popping into IRC, stating that Confirmed/unconfirmed stats are not updating yet.  I don't know if this is a known issue, but I am seeing it on my own stat's page too.  Only estimated stats for current round looks to be working correctly.

Oh yeah, FAQBot poofed again.
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April 25, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
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If you look at the account page on mining.bitcoin.cz, on the left hand news column, first item.  

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Pool is in normal operation, delayed payouts will be processed in the afternoon (UTC).

Which might mean any time from 12:00 to 23:59 UTC, a timespan of about 12h. It was just this month we saw the BTC price drop 60% in less than 6 hours...

I can assure you, you posting about it isn't going to speed things up.

Slush has to do his due diligence before he lets payments fly.  

Otherwise he could always just say screw it, anti wants his payment now so he can sell off a few quick btc while the market is hot.  Then when things get screwed up and hundreds of btc end up in the wrong place it's not his problem right?

If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.
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April 25, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley
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April 25, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
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Heya slush, several users are popping into IRC, stating that Confirmed/unconfirmed stats are not updating yet.  I don't know if this is a known issue, but I am seeing it on my own stat's page too.  Only estimated stats for current round looks to be working correctly.

This:

P.S. I'm sorry, auto transfer...

The pool currently calculates block rewards only; I'm waiting for the feedback if block rewards are calculated properly. Then I'll run block confirming process (and you'll finally see all coins as confirmed) and auto payouts.


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April 25, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

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April 25, 2013, 05:15:37 PM
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If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.

Yer a fkn idiot! Anyone who thinks that Slush is responsible for them mining on Slush's pool or ANYTHING that results from that needs a trout upside their stupid head!

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April 25, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
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xev can you give me the pools irc info please, and also has anything changed long term on how pool pays out or what
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April 25, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
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If somebody has a lot of BTC unpaid by the pool and it has been delayed without reason, one might be very angry (and at the extreme track down and sue Slush for financial damages!?) if they lose a lot due to the holdup. Not his problem right? Fortunately, today the BTC value has not dropped much more than a percent at any small period so far. So lets hope for the best...

Its not that I'm ungrateful towards Slush for trying to sort this mess out - quite the opposite. I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

I suggest the minimum payout value be capped to minimize pool liability in case coins do get lost. This would somewhat lower the risk huge damage claims. Of course this would only help for coins mined in the past and not for coins mined during the time payments are not processed.

Yer a fkn idiot! Anyone who thinks that Slush is responsible for them mining on Slush's pool or ANYTHING that results from that needs a trout upside their stupid head!

Thank you

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April 25, 2013, 05:24:59 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

There have however been blocks found in the last 24 hours, and these are which I speak. Just because I am a "newb" to this board does not in any way mean I am a 'newb'. I have been mining and contributing to this comunity for quite some time. I just havent had the need to post on thiese forums ever.

Also, his quote specifically says he wants to make sure its calculating right before he confirms... I am speaking of unconfirmed, which he said WAS calculating. So please step back. Check your attitude at the door, and have a nice day.

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April 25, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
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I was just pointing out the problem that even small delays in payments might have catastrophic results for users.

If said user is dumb enough to set a very high minimum payout....

I set mine to 0.5BTC. I see no reason to set it higher.

Of course if I was mining 10btc per day, I would scale that accordingly.

I have little sympathy for those using Slush to store their BTC.

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April 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
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April 25, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
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sh0cked and TheXev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1939770#msg1939770
digital: luck and difficulty are parameters we have to deal with Smiley

I wasn't complaining, I'm well aware of how the system works.  I was responding the post quoted in my post.  He stated blocks were being found, but I replied that it had been 5 hours since a block was found.

You will find I'm one of the most patient users of slush's pool when it comes to difficulty, luck, and outages.  I'm in it for the long haul...

There have however been blocks found in the last 24 hours, and these are which I speak. Just because I am a "newb" to this board does not in any way mean I am a 'newb'. I have been mining and contributing to this comunity for quite some time. I just havent had the need to post on thiese forums ever.

Also, his quote specifically says he wants to make sure its calculating right before he confirms... I am speaking of unconfirmed, which he said WAS calculating. So please step back. Check your attitude at the door, and have a nice day.



Slush's post still applies.  Regardless of what you were referring to, when he turns on the confirmation and payouts those stats will then be accurate.

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April 25, 2013, 05:31:16 PM
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First of all, Slush: great job!!
Second of all; Slush: great job!

You probably earn a decent living with the pool, but the way you reacted to this incident makes me believe you earn every penny! A lot of ppl can take an example of you!

Everything in my account looks fine except for one thing (not sure but thought I'd say)

Block http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000017c7516a1d78a1ae6d440ce4cab172691203cee0078bb3c26b5?site=slush is orphaned and still had payouts is that correct? I was under the assumption that orphaned blocks didn't count for payouts but I might be wrong..

As far as luck goes, if any pool deserves is its yours!

Thanks again!
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