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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4382718 times)
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April 09, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
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A newbie question: When I got a first pool worker the password was assigned to it automatically. When I add another worker - do I use the same password or should it be different one? Does this matter?

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April 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
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Is there anyway to get my remaining balance of BTC and NMC sent to my addresses? They are below the send threshold.
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April 09, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
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Is there anyway to get my remaining balance of BTC and NMC sent to my addresses? They are below the send threshold.

change the threshold
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April 09, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
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A newbie question: When I got a first pool worker the password was assigned to it automatically. When I add another worker - do I use the same password or should it be different one? Does this matter?

Thanks!

It doesn't matter... Even if you just put in 1 or something as that. If someone knows that password(and username) the only thing it can do is to mine for you... Smiley
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April 09, 2013, 03:46:43 PM
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Thats the thing. The lowest setting for payout is .05 . I have below that and want to get my coins.
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April 09, 2013, 03:54:59 PM
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coin-miner 0.54  Copyright (c) 2011-2013 Ufasoft  http://ufasoft.com/coin
Mining for stratum+tcp://api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
Using CPU (16 threads)
Error 80072AFC:  The requested name is valid, but no data of the requested type
was found.

Error 8007274D:  No connection could be made because the target machine actively
 refused it.

And this continues on and on.... What am i doing wrong HuhHuh?

I am poor, but i do work for Coin Smiley
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April 09, 2013, 03:58:16 PM
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Judging because of extremely rare 2/10 second rounds? People are upset when the luck is bad,  but people are also upset when the luck is good... :-) I don't remember how such "good luck" happen last time, it is really rare.

no, no, I'm not upset as I completely understand the logic behind it and as I said in the long run I earn exactly what I would expect. Having said that, I do realise, that as difficulty increases even gh/s miner will mine less & then even less than less.

btw if the round lasted really short and there would be only one share submitted in the whole pool in that round and if that share was mine, then I would earn 49.xxx BTC for that round Smiley and would send a bottle of very good wine to slush.

my point is: 1gh/s rig will mine about 838 diff1 shares/h = 0.23... shares/s ~= 1 in 4 chance rig will submit a share in that 1 s. if round lasts 2 seconds then we would have approx. 50% chance that rig will submit a share in that time. since network latency is about 20-50 ms depending on your location (20ms in internet terms is very good indeed) and can jump to 80ms, then your chances of submitting a share are much lower because of round trip delay (which is 2x latency) and processing time ( cgminer, or, network card, router with nat, adsl etc, which I cannot measure but would estimate to be another 20ms ) then my 2 second round allows for 1.8s of hash finding or even less. this is where this is painful.

i understand your argument that I could be lucky and submit 3 shares in those 2 seconds by pure luck, but the latency bias still remains.

on the other hand Jeff running his asic miner on diff1 (he should not do it, but there is no way to stop him) with 68 gh/s, is submitting 15 shares / s so he has and extra edge in this situation. above the obvious gh/s advantage.

dialling back share difficulty to 1/2 or 1/4 is probably also not such a good idea. delaying payoff till more than one round is completed who's combined duration is bigger than some threshold is also probably not such a good idea....

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April 09, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
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I was reading this anti hopping futures that we have. I have the next question. What about miners that runs at 5 or less mhesh/s. I'm running one 1,2 one 4,8 and one 7,2. Am I affected because of them? They are CPU's and they are running on free power. Well I'm not paying it so it is "free".
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April 09, 2013, 04:28:39 PM
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Thats the thing. The lowest setting for payout is .05 . I have below that and want to get my coins.

Mine to the send threshold. Make sure to put the send threshold up first then when you're past 0.05, do whatever you're doing with your miner and put it back down to cash out.

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coin-miner 0.54  Copyright (c) 2011-2013 Ufasoft  http://ufasoft.com/coin
Mining for stratum+tcp://api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
Using CPU (16 threads)
Error 80072AFC:  The requested name is valid, but no data of the requested type
was found.

Error 8007274D:  No connection could be made because the target machine actively
 refused it.

And this continues on and on.... What am i doing wrong HuhHuh?


Try stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 instead of api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333

They resolve to the same ip, but I dont know if slush has anything else going on in the background, could be server load maybe.
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April 09, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
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I'm back with more dumb questions. Is it better to have 5 shitty GPU's under one Worker name and pass? Or to give each Worker its own gpu.

my workers scores are

132.1497
186.6425
258.3901
66.6967

Where dose this number get plunged in? What do these numbers stand for and how do they get used?

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You can use one worker account for all your miners, but I recommend to use separate account for every miner for easier troubleshooting.

So one worker for each rig if the miner program supports all the GPUs in that rig at one time or one for each miner program if you have to run more then one per a rig to support all the GPUs at one time.

One for each each rig/miner means you can see if one is playing up.
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April 09, 2013, 05:05:08 PM
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coin-miner 0.54  Copyright (c) 2011-2013 Ufasoft  http://ufasoft.com/coin
Mining for stratum+tcp://api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
Using CPU (16 threads)
Error 80072AFC:  The requested name is valid, but no data of the requested type
was found.

Error 8007274D:  No connection could be made because the target machine actively
 refused it.

And this continues on and on.... What am i doing wrong HuhHuh?


Try stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 instead of api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333

They resolve to the same ip, but I dont know if slush has anything else going on in the background, could be server load maybe.

coin-miner 0.54  Copyright (c) 2011-2013 Ufasoft  http://ufasoft.com/coin
Mining for stratum+tcp://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
Using CPU (16 threads)
Error 8007274D:  No connection could be made because the target machine actively
 refused it.

I am poor, but i do work for Coin Smiley
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April 09, 2013, 05:40:56 PM
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there has to be a way to get my coins below the threshold besides mine until it goes over.
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April 09, 2013, 05:59:43 PM
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there has to be a way to get my coins below the threshold besides mine until it goes over.

No, You must Mine until it goes over

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April 09, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
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With the exchange rate and increasing difficulty, you could have a shot at getting Slush to lower the minimum threshold. How much do you have in there anyway and how long would it take you to mine to 0.05?

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April 09, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
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there has to be a way to get my coins below the threshold besides mine until it goes over.

good god..... CHANGE the threshold level!
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April 09, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
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there has to be a way to get my coins below the threshold besides mine until it goes over.

good god..... CHANGE the threshold level!

Current minimal threshold is 0.05 - no way to change it to be smaller.
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April 09, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
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dont sweat $10-$12
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April 09, 2013, 07:22:50 PM
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The pool would go bancrupt from transaction feeds if it was set lower
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April 09, 2013, 07:39:40 PM
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This is fun and very interesting. Slush's score method gave me months of interesting research last year. Try digging into the complexity - you might enjoy it Smiley

I think you're over-thinking all this. Do you want to stay at slush's pool? Are you ok with losing a tiny percentage of your earnings to pool hoppers in exchange for a stable pool and a responsible pool op with a good reputation who has the longest running top 5 pool? You don't need to be concerned with the technical aspects of pool hopping if you don't want to.


The reason I don't want to dig into this is because I'm not a pool hopper and I just get some network disturbance from time to time, and if his intelligent scheme can not recognize this, that is a bad implementation, no need to dig more

I've been using this pool from the start(2011), but just recently I discovered this problem, how do you differentiate this from pool stealing?


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