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December 03, 2012, 02:02:09 AM
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tealover, it is still pretty simple, you only need use up-to-date software instead of phoenix which has no development for months :-). I recommend you GUIminer (poclbm backend) or cgminer, both works perfectly with Stratum.

Stratum protocol supports more workers without problems. But latest miners can manage more gpus at once and they unfortunately don't allow entering worker name per gpu...

Edit: Still, as I said, if you prefer phoenix, use Stratum proxy and everything will be the same as previously. You can use own worker names for every miner instance as well...

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December 03, 2012, 02:12:39 AM
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tealover, honestly, there's no reason to repost everything to more threads. I already answered this to cgminer's thread.

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December 03, 2012, 02:31:08 AM
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I'm getting the no stratum notice too, even though I'm running the latest cgminer and have been on stratum for quite a while.

Now I don't understand your problem. cgminer looks ok ("Switching pool 0 ... to stratum+tcp ...").


Yeah, I have been running on stratum for a while, but I was getting a notice on the website that claimed I wasn't. It seems to have stopped now.

Btw no need to run backup pools for api, api2 and api3 - all three IPs are using the same stratum backend...

I'll change my startup script then Smiley
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December 03, 2012, 06:19:50 AM
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No matter if I enter the info manually with a blank config, or copy the config over, it doesn't connect.

Please be sure you typed worker credentials correctly. Everything is case sensitive. If it still fails, can you report it to cgminer thread?
Ah, Before it worked due to non-case on GPU, had it .Gpu instead of .GPU. Getting the latest version and changing that worked.

So will I receive any back-transaction fees or just continuing from here?
Also will the stats page show block reward share vs transaction fee share?
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December 03, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
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You just start receiving tx fees from now.

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December 03, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
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Slush, I'm getting the no-Stratum notice also. My situation is a bit unusual. I have two core-i7 machines in your pool, each using nVidia cards and therefore cuda (it's a long story).

I use GUIminer and switched both machines to the 2012-11-18 version when it came out. GUIminer shows a path "\Program Files (x86)\guiminer\miners\puddinpop\rpcminer-cuda.exe"

On one machine, a message flashes by on GUIminer startup to the effect that it IS using Stratum, starting a week or two ago. Unfortunately, my router has failed and I can't get Net access on that machine any more until the replacement router arrives from Newegg in a few days. Your site shows "Stratum -" in the Workers section of "My Account" for that worker - neither yes nor no because it has not been active since the router failed a day or so ago, I think.

The other machine is now connected directly to my ISP line (no router involved). I have never seen the GUIminer Stratum startup message on it, and your site shows a definite "Stratum no" for it in the Workers section of "My Account".

The software and settings for the two machines are identical, as far as I know. When I download a new version of GUIminer or bitcoin onto one machine, I carry it by sneakernet SD card to the other machine, for example.

Bottom line: two apparently identical machines, each updated a while ago to GUIminer 11-18, one apparently did start to use Stratum and one apparently did not. Due to bad router luck, I can't do much testing/confirmation with the "good" machine for a few days.

I hope this is useful, and I realize my setup is not a common one. I'll be double-checking my file paths in case I am somehow using an out-of-date component somewhere, but the GUIminer heading definitely says v2012-11-18 on both machines.

Thanks!
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December 03, 2012, 04:26:59 PM
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algeezer - only poclbm backend (OpenCL) in GUIminer supports Stratum. So if you're using rpcminer-cuda, you still need to use Stratum proxy...

"-" indicates that worker is not active, so pool don't know if it uses stratum or getwork
"yes/no" indicates stratum or getwork connection for active workers.

Edit: I also added information about OpenCL-only support in GUIminer to that profile message...

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December 03, 2012, 07:19:21 PM
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So awhile ago you were talking about changing the payment method to something non-hoppable (DGM IIRC).  What ever happened with that?

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December 03, 2012, 08:20:35 PM
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algeezer - only poclbm backend (OpenCL) in GUIminer supports Stratum. So if you're using rpcminer-cuda, you still need to use Stratum proxy...

Thanks, slush. I was expecting something like that but I was still puzzled as to why I saw a Stratum startup message flash past quickly on one machine but not the other in the one-line GUIMiner display where it says things like "allocating cuda resources". I was sure both were rpcminer-cuda.

The error is mine. Sorry! I had somehow generated an OCL miner on the one machine and labeled its GUIMiner tab as a CUDA miner. It is of course the one that was showing the Stratum startup message. I'll relabel it.

I've just switched the other machine from CUDA to an OCL miner. It seems to work fine (and gives a Stratum startup message).

Thanks again. Sorry for the hassle.

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December 04, 2012, 06:09:16 PM
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tealover, it is still pretty simple, you only need use up-to-date software instead of phoenix which has no development for months :-). I recommend you GUIminer (poclbm backend) or cgminer, both works perfectly with Stratum.

Stratum protocol supports more workers without problems. But latest miners can manage more gpus at once and they unfortunately don't allow entering worker name per gpu...

Edit: Still, as I said, if you prefer phoenix, use Stratum proxy and everything will be the same as previously. You can use own worker names for every miner instance as well...

Slush my Friend.... Can you please give us more Graphs?

Maybe on the statistics page that allows us to see the Per Worker like hash/earning it would be nice to see the differant profitability of each miner i run Tongue

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December 05, 2012, 03:01:26 AM
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Slush.. or anyone

I am having a difficult time getting my head around the stratum stuff. I am trying to figure out if I will still be able to mine as I have been.
One of my mining locations requires that I mine Via SSH tunnels. So I setup my home router to be an SSH end-point and I run Putty on my miner and open SSH tunnels back to my home router.

So with Phoenix I mine with http://127.0.0.1:8332 which redirects via Putty to http://api.bitcoin.cz:8332 via my home router.
When running CGMiner it first connects via the above, but then gets new info and tries to connect to api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333.

I need to get that last connection to go out my SSH tunnel. So I setup a new tunnel http://127.0.0.1:3333 to http://api-stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 and changed the miner address to http://127.0.0.1:3333 but that does not seem to connect.

Is stratum not connecting via http?

Any ideas how to get what I had before to work with CGMiner and Stratum?

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December 05, 2012, 03:10:04 AM
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Is it possible to change the login/email address of an account? I am about to delete a domain I don't really use...

Thanks Slush!

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December 05, 2012, 08:17:38 AM
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Is stratum not connecting via http?

No, it is plain TCP socket.

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Any ideas how to get what I had before to work with CGMiner and Stratum?

Make tunnel from localhost:3333 to stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 (yes, this one, really) and point cgminer to "stratum+tcp://localhost:3333".

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December 05, 2012, 03:33:52 PM
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Slush,

Is there a reasonable way to figure out BTC per share or BTC per Mhash/s or Khash/s

Just trying to figure out how i want my set up to be with for my 400 Mhash/s stuff :*(

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December 05, 2012, 03:47:56 PM
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Is there a reasonable way to figure out BTC per share or BTC per Mhash/s or Khash/s

Try the handy calculator here: https://bitclockers.com/calc

In a no-fee pay-per-share scheme today, you can expect approximately 0.00000727 BTC/share.

For reference, consider this example of a slightly overclocked 5870 GPU:

hashrate: 400Mhps
power: 180W
daily earnings: 0.05849695 BTC ($0.77)
power cost ($0.15/kWH): $0.65
net profit: $0.77 - $0.65 = $0.12

In other words, if you are running a 5870 today you are earning only $0.12/day with it (assuming your electricy cost is $0.15/kWh). And that doesn't include the cost of running the host PC ... if you include that, you are actually losing money by mining. If your electricity is free, your 5870 is bringing in $0.77/day (edit: 0.0585 BTC/day; thanks for catching that, deeplink).

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December 05, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
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Is there a reasonable way to figure out BTC per share or BTC per Mhash/s or Khash/s

Try the handy calculator here: https://bitclockers.com/calc

In a no-fee pay-per-share scheme today, you can expect approximately 0.00000727 BTC/share.

For reference, consider this example of a slightly overclocked 5870 GPU:

hashrate: 400Mhps
power: 180W
daily earnings: 0.05849695 BTC ($0.77)
power cost ($0.15/kWH): $0.65
net profit: $0.77 - $0.65 = $0.12

In other words, if you are running a 5870 today you are earning only $0.12/day with it (assuming your electricy cost is $0.15/kWh). And that doesn't include the cost of running the host PC ... if you include that, you are actually losing money by mining. If your electricity is free, your 5870 is bringing in $0.77/day (0.585 BTC/day).


...your 5870 is bringing in $0.77/day (0.0585 BTC/day).

FTFY
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December 05, 2012, 05:09:33 PM
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Is stratum not connecting via http?

No, it is plain TCP socket.

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Any ideas how to get what I had before to work with CGMiner and Stratum?

Make tunnel from localhost:3333 to stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 (yes, this one, really) and point cgminer to "stratum+tcp://localhost:3333".

Thanks Slush, up and running!

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December 05, 2012, 05:29:18 PM
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Is it possible to change the login/email address of an account? I am about to delete a domain I don't really use...

Just send email request to info@bitcoin.cz from OLD mailbox and I'll do the change manually.

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December 06, 2012, 04:13:26 AM
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Is it possible to change the login/email address of an account? I am about to delete a domain I don't really use...

Just send email request to info@bitcoin.cz from OLD mailbox and I'll do the change manually.
Thanks! I sent the email.

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December 07, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
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Hi Slush

many thanks for the support and stratum proxy

may be you can modify https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/ to show shares per worker per round

for example, last round you gave the data

#   Block found at   Duration   Total shares   Your BTC reward   Block #   Block value   Validity
15104   2012-12-07 17:36:25   0:43:42   1655459   0.04892136   211270   25.28510000    89 confirmations left

modify like below

#   Block found at   Duration   Total shares  Pool Ghash/s   Block #   Block value   Validity
15104   2012-12-07 17:36:25   0:43:42   1655459   2700.550 211270   25.28510000    89 confirmations left

Worker shares Worker Mhash/s Worker BTC reward
32684 5238.4 0.04892136


the question is because i can't find/understand i loosing about 25% shares sent to the stratum proxy ( calculate worker shares sent to stratum proxy and compare to account data Average hashrate in last 10 rounds: 5341 Mhash/s )

many thanks

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