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May 01, 2013, 10:06:31 PM
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@Mikko8: I'm only a slow miner like I said earlier (50mhash/s) - sent 10 shares so far, are they registering?

EDIT: new round, I'll stay on a little longer; hopefully you'll get a quick round.

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May 01, 2013, 10:07:53 PM
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hey guys this would be my 1st post here. Smiley

Based on my experience here at slush pool having just 85 mh/s average The reward here is great! For example 24 shares on 26 mins block my reward is arround 0.0003.(this figure for me is great with just 85 mh/s). The only thing i notice is that if ever there is a connection issue or outage you will likely see a lot of zeros even if you have shares.

 Waiting for my 2 sapphire 5850 gpu (low on budget) which will arrive next week. Imagine getting 600-700 mh/s. I think it would be fantastic.



That's more than I earn daily Cheesy Good luck with your new GPUs.

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May 01, 2013, 10:08:51 PM
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@Mikko8: I'm only a slow miner like I said earlier (50mhash/s) - sent 10 shares so far, are they registering?

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Thanks. It was 9 a minute ago + 1 on the new block.

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May 01, 2013, 10:08:56 PM
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mining seems to be a choice of pour money at it and get big rigs/asic or sift little and often and try to chip away at the mess of 0s to get some im only a tiny player myself and now after almost 1 month have .4 btc
unless your on a laptop you might look into getting a cheap gpu even a 57xx will give you about 100-150mhash


I am on a laptop, and that's a huge offset. Nevertheless, I've learned a lot. I've also managed to worsen my browser display output setting up ATI drivers but that's another story Cheesy

Cheap desktop with PCIx16 about 50€ and 5750 or 5770 is about 50€ and you will getitng about 150 180 without overclocking and up to 220 with overclocking... But use cgminer you get about 10% more out... When ASIC takes over BTC switch to LTC...
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May 01, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
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Waiting for my 2 sapphire 5850 gpu (low on budget) which will arrive next week. Imagine getting 600-700 mh/s. I think it would be fantastic.
No. Set up correctly you should be getting 700+. About 780 if heat isn't a problem...
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May 01, 2013, 10:12:40 PM
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mining seems to be a choice of pour money at it and get big rigs/asic or sift little and often and try to chip away at the mess of 0s to get some im only a tiny player myself and now after almost 1 month have .4 btc
unless your on a laptop you might look into getting a cheap gpu even a 57xx will give you about 100-150mhash


I am on a laptop, and that's a huge offset. Nevertheless, I've learned a lot. I've also managed to worsen my browser display output setting up ATI drivers but that's another story Cheesy

Cheap desktop with PCIx16 about 50€ and 5750 or 5770 is about 50€ and you will getitng about 150 180 without overclocking and up to 220 with overclocking... But use cgminer you get about 10% more out... When ASIC takes over BTC switch to LTC...

Thanks for the advice. I'll take a look on these possibilities and exact prices tomorrow.

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May 01, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I'll take a look on these possibilities and exact prices tomorrow.
Well it is a cheep option but not cost effective one. EDIT: Be sure that PSU is strong enough

I missed start of a block for 3 minutes but now I'm mining for you...

EDIT: since it was a short one you will get one more...
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May 01, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
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@Mikko8: Ok, I've done 1 and a bit rounds and I'm signing off. (Hope it helped some).

I may help again soon (depending on the response from other community members).

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May 01, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
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Just got an email from BFL saying they are starting to ship & that you need to confirm your order or they will cancel it.

Gave them a call and was told you only need to confirm if you ordered the "older" ASICs with higher power requirements (4.5/30/60 models), but do not need to confirm 5/25/50 model orders.
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May 01, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
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Slush's pool is relatively popular. I'm a small miner, two 16 Mhash workers and one 6 Mhash worker, so i contemplate what being small means, how i am impacted. There are 5Ghash miners coming into existance now. there will be a time where they will reap huge shares until the difficulty adjusts to compensate for them. we had a 32 sec block? either great luck or a fast hasher.

once the difficulty adjusts, Mhashers will obviously become the slow guys, equivalent to the current CPU miners. But, considering the slow deliverys on the Ghash machines it will be sometime before the difficulty adjusts totally in their favor, probably 3-6 months.

The point is that with the fast machines coming into being we are going to see more and more blocks where we've been excluded from the payout or got a really small portion. But, the alternative is not mining. sure you could go to another pool where there is less competion for the share. But, small pools will have less of a chance of finding a block in the first place.

Maybe Slush needs to add more zeroes to the right of the decimal so we feel like we aren't mining for nothing. Or, we just accept that there will be some 0BTC blocks for us little guys. Personally, I like Slush's pool will hang in there. Someday there will be reasonable delivery times on Ghash machines and i'll be able to get some and claw my way back up to the level of the playing field. In the mean time anything that i get is better than not mining. I'm enjoying mining as a hobby, hobbies are rarely profitable.

What are you mining with? My i5 laptop can get 10+MHash! For a while I had a cluster of dual-core desktops I have access to (I don't pay the leckie and the ToU didn't prohibit it. Stopped when I got a "Theres some strange activity on your account" email from the admin) getting me 100+MHash and there can only have been 25 of them running at most!

heh, I built the little 6Mhash machine specifially to mine with. it has cost me $180 to build. it is using about 40watts. the two bigger Hashers are my desktop with two Nvidea  graphics cards. that was built for gaming and not mining. I only started on the desktop machine because i was having trouble getting the little machine running and wanted to see some progress.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DDI0IE/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H0BA24/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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May 01, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
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BTC0.0002 on #17792
BTC0.0014 on #17793
and 202 shares and counting for this round

I am signing off, too. It's too late here in Latvia. Thanks Kruncha! Thanks Lucko, you can stop today. Wouldn't be nice to ask others work while I sleep.
I am now at BTC0.0054. Thanks again! Will be back tomorrow with some screenshots and advising what not to do Cheesy

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May 01, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
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Regarding BFL: I saw this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.0 claiming thay are a scam. So, are they not?

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May 01, 2013, 10:50:27 PM
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BTC0.0002 on #17792
BTC0.0014 on #17793
and 202 shares and counting for this round

I am signing off, too. It's too late here in Latvia. Thanks Kruncha! Thanks Lucko, you can stop today. Wouldn't be nice to ask others work while I sleep.
I am now at BTC0.0054. Thanks again! Will be back tomorrow with some screenshots and advising what not to do Cheesy

Your welcome, It was Lucko much more than me.

Regarding BFL: I saw this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.0 claiming thay are a scam. So, are they not?

They are well overdue and have poor customer info skills, the rest is speculation. (I'm still unsure, being a bit paranoid with bitcoin will serve you well)

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May 01, 2013, 10:51:05 PM
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Regarding BFL: I saw this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.0 claiming thay are a scam. So, are they not?
Nope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6mmTRheUzg
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May 01, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
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BTC0.0002 on #17792
BTC0.0014 on #17793
and 202 shares and counting for this round

I am signing off, too. It's too late here in Latvia. Thanks Kruncha! Thanks Lucko, you can stop today. Wouldn't be nice to ask others work while I sleep.
I am now at BTC0.0054. Thanks again! Will be back tomorrow with some screenshots and advising what not to do Cheesy
OK blocks 17793 and 17794 were my donation... I hope you wake up to nice surprise I got you to 0.007 and someone else get you to 0.01...
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May 01, 2013, 11:17:05 PM
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Ok, I am surprised that the scoring system works that way....

It means even if I am an ASIC miner if I have an outage of 90minutes due to a storm then I lose all my shares value. Everyone else profited from my shares. So down time is my enemy.

How does the score system work? (I am sorry for my ignorance!)
There are some resets of the scores also so after a reset you don't get any... 90 minutes is more then enough for reset to accrue... Probably more then once. So even 1000 ASIC wouldn't help... That way I was asking for pool to have a maintenance mode and that way I'm using backup PPS pool in time of maintenance... And also why backup pool is PPS. So I get something out... If the backup pool would use Slush method for short outage I would get close to 0. But then again I could be lucky... For some time I used PPLNS method but I got out about 10% of what I lost so PPS is probably much better... But then again I might be wrong...

Not how the "reset" works. It's more of a "renormalisation".
OK then way my scores goes to 0? If it was renormalisation it would be some small number... And since I have a lot of problems with my miner right now I see score 0 toooooo many times right now...

If you are having problems with your miner, you should probably get those resolved first before complaining about what slush is doing.  Seriously, when my miners are stable, which is almost all the time, my payouts are constant and regular.  I've never had to worry about the score normalizing.

About the score resets I just can't see how can they help. So lets suppose the resets are happening at each 90 minutes and I am constantly mining a block for 3 hours now. For this time I got two score resets which I would normally say it is OK. However the block is found after 3 hours and 10 minutes. Now I have been mining totally 190 minutes but I get the same score as those who joined just 5-10 minutes before the block is found. What is the point of using score when it resets on given period of time?

I do not mean to offend anyone and I am actually still a noob but am I missing something here or the score reset is faulted?

PS Off-topic after the OVH hack I would like to change my e-mail associated with the account but I just do not see such option. I am probably just blind  Smiley but is it possible to change the e-mail and from which menu?
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May 01, 2013, 11:24:12 PM
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PS Off-topic after the OVH hack I would like to change my e-mail associated with the account but I just do not see such option. I am probably just blind  Smiley but is it possible to change the e-mail and from which menu?

Go to 'my account', and at the top of the page go to 'account settings'.

EDIT: I like the scoring as it is, no one can plan to come in late, as some rounds are only a few minutes long. It balances out in the end.

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May 01, 2013, 11:33:13 PM
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About the score resets I just can't see how can they help. So lets suppose the resets are happening at each 90 minutes and I am constantly mining a block for 3 hours now. For this time I got two score resets which I would normally say it is OK. However the block is found after 3 hours and 10 minutes. Now I have been mining totally 190 minutes but I get the same score as those who joined just 5-10 minutes before the block is found. What is the point of using score when it resets on given period of time?

I do not mean to offend anyone and I am actually still a noob but am I missing something here or the score reset is faulted?

PS Off-topic after the OVH hack I would like to change my e-mail associated with the account but I just do not see such option. I am probably just blind  Smiley but is it possible to change the e-mail and from which menu?
Basely this is done so that pool hoppers get less on a longer runes since they take away from you on a shorter runs... So you loose only 2% of income not 20%... It is all explained in Slush annucment of implementation of the method. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002
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May 01, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
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Go to 'my account', and at the top of the page go to 'account settings'.

EDIT: I like the scoring as it is, no one can plan to come in late, as some rounds are only a few minutes long. It balances out in the end.

K.

Thank you Kruncha but at My Account I see just "Change the password" which I already did after the hack and "Delete my account". Don't have any menu for e-mail change.

About the score resets I just can't see how can they help. So lets suppose the resets are happening at each 90 minutes and I am constantly mining a block for 3 hours now. For this time I got two score resets which I would normally say it is OK. However the block is found after 3 hours and 10 minutes. Now I have been mining totally 190 minutes but I get the same score as those who joined just 5-10 minutes before the block is found. What is the point of using score when it resets on given period of time?

I do not mean to offend anyone and I am actually still a noob but am I missing something here or the score reset is faulted?

PS Off-topic after the OVH hack I would like to change my e-mail associated with the account but I just do not see such option. I am probably just blind  Smiley but is it possible to change the e-mail and from which menu?
Basely this is done so that pool hoppers get less on a longer runes since they take away from you on a shorter runs... So you loose only 2% of income not 20%... It is all explained in Slush annucment of implementation of the method. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002


Lucko, its 2:40 AM here and I am probably missing something but let me try to explain what I see...

Pool hoppers get more on shorter runs and I understand that but what is the point of score reset? On shorter runs, there won't be enough time for the score to reset and the pool hoppers will screw me again. However on longer runs they will screw me again because the score resets on each xx minutes and even though I mined for several hours, a person that is switching pools each 5-15 minutes will get just the same score as mine after 3 hours of mining?

I do not want to offend anyone here and I personally think that Slush is a great guy (impressed me quite a lot during the hack outrages) but nevertheless I just can't get this resets...

Edit: Yes, before I started these score reset posts I already had read Slush's explanation on the topic, still the resets are not making any point to me.
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May 01, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
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Thank you Kruncha but at My Account I see just "Change the password" which I already did after the hack and "Delete my account". Don't have any menu for e-mail change.

Your right, sorry, I hadn't noticed. I've looked everywhere, and that option doesn't seem to be available Huh.

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