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May 12, 2013, 05:21:12 AM

Hey everyone. Look out for round 17979. It maybe another round in which people get stilted on their earnings. I have a new theory about it. It started when I was watching my account page. I saw the estimated reward drop from a typical .003 or so to .00000001. Then over the course of 30 minutes it eked up to .00000007, then .00000015, .00000240, and get close to my usual. What was going on at the time, however, was the total score for the round had not reset in a good 15-20 blocks. I'm not sure yet how often the total score resets but it was a 14-digit number starting in 5 before the fever broke. Some people last time thought it was stratum backing up and not properly reporting shares but it's this danged "hop-proof" mechanic Slush employs! I've got a thing or two to say about that in general, but I think I may have found the bug.

It's happening again for me. Anyone else see their estimated earnings infinitesimally small? The total score as of this writing is 387804932986, a 12-digit integer. My combined total score is about 45600. Also the Mh/s calculation is WAY off (though it's never been very accurate). Yeah, Slush needs to review this.

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May 12, 2013, 05:31:42 AM

Hey everyone. Look out for round 17979. It maybe another round in which people get stilted on their earnings. I have a new theory about it. It started when I was watching my account page. I saw the estimated reward drop from a typical .003 or so to .00000001. Then over the course of 30 minutes it eked up to .00000007, then .00000015, .00000240, and get close to my usual. What was going on at the time, however, was the total score for the round had not reset in a good 15-20 blocks. I'm not sure yet how often the total score resets but it was a 14-digit number starting in 5 before the fever broke. Some people last time thought it was stratum backing up and not properly reporting shares but it's this danged "hop-proof" mechanic Slush employs! I've got a thing or two to say about that in general, but I think I may have found the bug.

It's happening again for me. Anyone else see their estimated earnings infinitesimally small? The total score as of this writing is 387804932986, a 12-digit integer. My combined total score is about 45600.

Yes my estimated payout is: 0.00085215 BTC  and it is normally around .17

I looked at the overall score - it is way high.. wondering if there is a bug somewhere in how the score is calculated?

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May 12, 2013, 05:37:26 AM

And the round ended... get out your tissues, folks.

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May 12, 2013, 05:41:08 AM

FFS...do we have to ddos the pool to get slushs attention? been over a week since he posted on the forums...i can understand he needs a break once in awhile but damn...this keeps up i'm gonna be sad Sad also took the advice on here and load balanced on cgminer so hopefully this doesn't happen again...if it does i guess i'll be even sadder Sad

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May 12, 2013, 05:55:47 AM

I was complaining about this kind of thing all last week, and I kept getting told to shut up, because other certain people's scores were just fine.  I was also having problems with missing shares...

There is SOMETHING WRONG with the way payouts are being scored and it's happening to me on at least 2 or 3 blocks every day .00000007 payouts where normally I would have .0044 instead.

I HAVE had less trouble with missing shares since I moved all my miners from stratum2.bitcoin.cz to stratum.bitcoin.cz and started only using my worker1 ID for all 4 of my miners, but still come up short on what my payout should be on some blocks.

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May 12, 2013, 06:06:40 AM

3:07:09   25945750   1808   0.00023135   

Urg

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May 12, 2013, 06:18:19 AM

17995    2013-05-12 05:35:52    3:07:09    25945750    21555    0.00110136    none    235787    25.49480000    98 confirmations left

Ok. Fuck this. Time to find a new pool until we get an answer on what is going on.
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May 12, 2013, 06:36:03 AM

lol I dont think I did too bad out of this one

17995   2013-05-12 05:35:52   3:07:09   25945750   2949   0.13635205   none   235787   25.49480000    98 confirmations left

still I reckon this will be recalculated in the next block we find.
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May 12, 2013, 07:16:16 AM

Eyes peeled: the total score is 1454851153451, a 13-digit number. Weird things happen when it gets over 900 billion.

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May 12, 2013, 07:24:59 AM

Anyone else with connection issues right now? My rigs have been off for 30mins, both by proxy and direct fallbacks get nothing.

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May 12, 2013, 07:27:12 AM

Slush - please look at 17995 and current block - there is an error
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May 12, 2013, 07:28:11 AM

17995    2013-05-12 05:35:52    3:07:09    25945750    21555    0.00110136    none    235787    25.49480000    98 confirmations left

Ok. Fuck this. Time to find a new pool until we get an answer on what is going on.

Exacty.  3rd time in last 3 days this has happened.  I can't see any reason to stay here any longer.  3 hours of mining to get the equivalent of $0.30.  Normally i get about 0.05, but 0.0026 come on.  It's not like I'm a slow miner (20GH/s x 2 and both got screwed).

17995    2013-05-12 05:35:52    3:07:09    25945750    49070    0.00266237    none    235787    25.49480000    92 confirmations left

Leaving until the next DDoS...

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May 12, 2013, 07:46:22 AM

Yes, fourd00rgtz, accounts page indicates my miners did not submit shares for 30mins too. Was on stratum3, now changed to stratum, seems ok now.
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May 12, 2013, 07:54:20 AM

I had problems with missing shares on Slush for days and reporting on forum about that. I lost out on about 12 rounds. When I got noting for 4 rounds in a role I moved to Bitparking since it have merged mining on stratum and I must say extra income is great. The only problem is that the pool only have 1 to 1,5 gh and luck is a bigger factor... But there are no Slush problems so you don't need to monitor miners all the time. Even if you loose a connection at the end of the round you get about the same... I must say I like it.
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May 12, 2013, 08:04:32 AM

I got it again myself.  It seems like a regular occurrence lately.

17995    2013-05-12 05:35:52    3:07:09    25945750    4341    0.00024640

Drum roll for the inevitable "stop complaining/whining" diatribe.
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May 12, 2013, 08:08:35 AM

lol I dont think I did too bad out of this one

17995   2013-05-12 05:35:52   3:07:09   25945750   2949   0.13635205   none   235787   25.49480000    98 confirmations left

still I reckon this will be recalculated in the next block we find.

This is why I am leaving this pool.  Look at your numbers.  Then look at mine.  FUCK THIS.

17995   2013-05-12 05:35:52   3:07:09   25945750   3860   0.00000145    235787   25.49480000    87 confirmations left


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May 12, 2013, 08:12:53 AM

I think i know what's wrong, it is the score of individual miners not resetted to zero after a new block is found...

One of my miners has 6 digit score while another miner with same hash rate has score of less than 100

That means if someone has a huge score that has not resetted, they will get a monster share and the rest of us will get next to nothing. But this only happens when we found a new block right after a new block is found by some other pool, cos as time goes, the huge lead that miner has will be caught up by our newly submitted shares.

This is only a guess, I could be wrong...
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May 12, 2013, 08:21:40 AM

I think i know what's wrong, it is the score of individual miners not resetted to zero after a new block is found...

One of my miners has 6 digit figure score while another miner with same hash rate has score of less than 100


It's not after a new block is found.  At certain intervals the pool resets all miners back to 0 as baseline.  If you mine for the first 4 hours on a 5 hour block you will make essentially 0 since there will be a reset sometime between when you quit mining and the when the block is found on the 5th hour in this example.

I too noticed some of my scores were a 6 magnitudes higher than other miners with the exact same setup.  2 1250MH/s rigs, one had a score of about 4k, the other was in the millions or billions.  Whoever gets lucky enough to get those messed up scores gets paid extra and everybody else is having their rewards "stolen".

So in essence the pool is making you play a lottery.  If somebody could figure out how to trick the pool into keeping the score up then they could basically steal the 25 reward of the block.

So whoever chooses to stay here after seeing this consistently is asking to be a victim.  I PMed Slush after the first occurrence 3 nights ago, no reply.  He is a standup guy.  His pool right now is behaving otherwise....

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May 12, 2013, 08:27:22 AM

Just within a minute ago, I have a total "Current shares" of around 3525 yet this is the corresponding data for it: "Estimated reward: 0.00000094 BTC".  Now, why is that?

Edit:  Not only that, one of my miners has 555 shares yet the score reads 0.0048.  This is nuts!
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May 12, 2013, 08:39:38 AM

I haven't mined for that long, but the short time before the ddos, things were diffrent.
There are so many weird things happening with the stats so something must be wrong.

And with Slush being silent, I'm afraid something bad has happend.

This pool is like a runaway train.

I have moved to BitMinter.
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