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May 09, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
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Slush pool steals award from miners


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May 09, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
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There's nothing to sort out.  All these complaints about rewards are either a result of variance on slow miners, or bad luck with the designed score reset.  There are no real problems.  Everything is working the way it's designed.

Which is why nothing is getting sorted out.

When there is a real problem, slush will make an appearance.
If that would be the only glitch I saw last days OK. But this is not a case. I'm seeing missing shares(log from cgminer), jumping from stratum to stratum2, stratum3, api, backup pool(log and shares on backup pool)... And I don't see it fixed. Because of some random errors I got less on about 7 to 9 blocks now. Others have problem connecting... I think that Slush took a holiday without internet or something happened to him and pool is degrading without maintenance. So yes it is a problem... Slush didn't make a appearance over a week. This is not normal for him.

EDIT: and even if you are right that this is how it should work, why did Slush fixed this in a past?
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May 09, 2013, 07:37:05 PM
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Nope, you're wrong.

"Stealing" is when you take something for your own benefit. It would've been the case if Slush took those BTC for himself.

He didn't.

Those BTC got paid to a number of random people.

There was some (programming/internet/database/you name it) error that happened.

If there is anything wrong it would be that Slush isn't monitoring his pool on a daily basis to spot and correct issues like that. On the other hand though, he has never promised such thing either.

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May 09, 2013, 08:03:16 PM
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bit harsh init...

according to google translate:

"это в какой интересно узнать"

means

"it is interesting to know what"

I thought that was quite philosophical...

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May 09, 2013, 08:16:15 PM
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For a different perspective: Slush has a pool fee of 2%. At 9Thps that's the equivalent of 180Ghps which, at today's exchange rate, works out to Slush getting $1000/day from pool fees. For $1000/day it is not unreasonable for users to expect a certain level of service.

Now, if users feel they are getting value for their pool fee, they stay; if they feel they are not, they find a better pool and leave. It really is no more complex than that. One needs to look no further than Deepbit for a recent example of this; once the largest of all the pools, it is now just a mere shadow of its former self.

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May 09, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
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For a different perspective: Slush has a pool fee of 2%. At 9Thps that's the equivalent of 180Ghps which, at today's exchange rate, works out to Slush getting $1000/day from pool fees. For $1000/day it is not unreasonable for users to expect a certain level of service.

Now, if users feel they are getting value for their pool fee, they stay; if they feel they are not getting adequate value, they find a better pool and leave. It really is no more complex than that. One needs to look no further than Deepbit for a recent example of this; once the largest of all the pools, it is now just a mere shadow of its former self.

Thank you!  Simple enough, stay or go!

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May 09, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
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For a different perspective: Slush has a pool fee of 2%. At 9Thps that's the equivalent of 180Ghps which, at today's exchange rate, works out to Slush getting $1000/day from pool fees. For $1000/day it is not unreasonable for users to expect a certain level of service.

Now, if users feel they are getting value for their pool fee, they stay; if they feel they are not, they find a better pool and leave. It really is no more complex than that. One needs to look no further than Deepbit for a recent example of this; once the largest of all the pools, it is now just a mere shadow of its former self.



Given his prompt response to the hack And putting in the hours at some ungodly time of day/night for more than 1 day AND making sure people didn't lose out because of it is what i would call Quality of service. Im new here, but that response has convinced me to stay put. 
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May 09, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
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From what I have seen in my (nearly) 2 years here Slush has always provided great service.

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May 09, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
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I see that Slushs keeps in 9.5 Ghps from a lot of time. Others pools (as bitminter where i´m moving due razonable fees on getwork), are growing fast. In fact, the named pool grows from 7.5Ghps to 13Ghps in 15 days or less.

This means that some miners are in disagree with slushs services, due some strange calculations, or punisher reward system, and don´t keep here, or move his fast miners to more fairly reward system.

It's mi opinion.

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May 09, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
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I see that Slushs keeps in 9.5 Ghps from a lot of time. Others pools (as bitminter where i´m moving due razonable fees on getwork), are growing fast. In fact, the named pool grows from 7.5Ghps to 13Ghps in 15 days or less.

This means that some miners are in disagree with slushs services, due some strange calculations, or punisher reward system, and don´t keep here, or move his fast miners to more fairly reward system.

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Your observations about bitminter are correct; your conclusions are not.

Bitminter went from 7thps to 13tphs over the past 2 weeks because of 1 thing: ASICMiner has moved miners from BTCGuild (can you guess the reason?) to bitminter. ASICminer is running under a single user and has 6thps on bitminter right now; almost half the total pool hashrate.

That 6thps from ASICMiner is what brought bitminter up from 7 to 13 now; it has nothing to do with people migrating from slush.

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May 09, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
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I just moved to bitminter, because i feel like i am missing out on profit from nmc, if slush adds nmc, ill be back.
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May 09, 2013, 10:37:47 PM
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I just moved to bitminter, because i feel like i am missing out on profit from nmc, if slush adds nmc, ill be back.

Traitor Smiley - I would be interested to know how you get on mining in the nether regions - please keep us slushies up to date with the differences you find laughingbear...

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May 09, 2013, 11:18:09 PM
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I just moved to bitminter, because i feel like i am missing out on profit from nmc, if slush adds nmc, ill be back.

Didn't two NMC blocks just go through?
20464   2013-05-09 22:15:12   5:53:05   109902   N/A    91 confirmations left
20463   2013-05-09 16:22:05   8:10:48   109858   N/A    47 confirmations left

What's with all the NMC beef? I've been getting my NMC payouts?
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May 10, 2013, 01:29:49 AM
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he is also working on http://bitcointrezor.com/  ,  (reason why I stayed with him) 
fwiw , i don't think anything fishy is going on, except maybe uncomfortable silence, they say, silence is golden  Roll Eyes
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May 10, 2013, 01:38:45 AM
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I just moved to bitminter, because i feel like i am missing out on profit from nmc, if slush adds nmc, ill be back.

Lol - good riddance to you and any others. You wouldn't know a good pool if you drowned in it!  I defy any miner on slush pool to post a graph showing a daily decrease in their earnings.

Yea sure a couple blocks had funky payouts - I don't give a crap if it's variance or even a bug, because there is no detectable decrease in my earnings.

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May 10, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
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are we still talking about one block ? , really peoples, i haven't read everything, but come on, it could also have been an orphan, or an 8 hour long block, maybe i missed something but i guess it is still about the same block, ... just chill
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May 10, 2013, 02:03:55 AM
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Daily average still went up though I see.


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May 10, 2013, 04:40:43 AM
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That is it. I have enough:

17958   2013-05-10 03:43:00   0:21:37   2903271   none   none   none   235414   25.34175529    92 confirmations left
17957   2013-05-10 03:21:23   0:28:05   3748547   none   none   none   235410   25.05420000    88 confirmations left
17956   2013-05-10 02:53:18   0:04:42   626625   none   none   none   235407   25.19220000    85 confirmations left
17955   2013-05-10 02:48:36   3:50:26   30661122   493   0.00000000   none   235405   

Looking at log noting was wrong...

EDIT:
Block 17958 missing 633 shares
Block 17957 missing 893 shares
Block 17956 missing 112 shares
Block 17955 missing 4782 shares
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May 10, 2013, 05:26:49 AM
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You must be joking...

17959   2013-05-10 05:06:25   1:23:25   11146660   1501   0.00000005   none   235428   25.09340000    99 confirmations left

EDIT: Missing 1100+ shares according to log... Switching to backup bye Slush...
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May 10, 2013, 05:29:37 AM
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Nevermind.  Looks like it took forever to update the payment for that last block.

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