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May 08, 2013, 04:11:21 AM
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I'm wondering if combined mining is actually a waste of computational effort -

Bitminter has 11.5TH and got 17 BTC blocks today so far + 79 NMC blocks
Slush got just 9.7TH but got 25 BTC blocks today so far + 1 NMC block

So, if that's the case - I'd rather have BTC than MNC.

we can have both, nmc wont take anything at all away from btc.  It just needs to be set up.

I don't think that's the case, Slush created the stratum protocol and has said merged mining doesn't work (yet or at all I'm not sure).

That's not true. Both BitMinter and Bitparking offer merged mining over the stratum protocol.

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May 08, 2013, 04:52:56 AM
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So no one else is having cgminer reject shares from the proxy? All of my pc's keep doing it at randomly every couple days. I didn't have any issues before that DDOS issue with the pool a few weeks ago. The proxy reports that share was above target.. It doesn't effect all my pc's at once though, and if I restart cgminer on the effected pc it starts accepting shares again.
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May 08, 2013, 06:20:22 AM
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So no one else is having cgminer reject shares from the proxy? All of my pc's keep doing it at randomly every couple days. I didn't have any issues before that DDOS issue with the pool a few weeks ago. The proxy reports that share was above target.. It doesn't effect all my pc's at once though, and if I restart cgminer on the effected pc it starts accepting shares again.
I have cgminer jumping from stratum.bitcoin.cz to stratum2.bitcoin.cz, stratum3.bitcoin.cz, api.bitcoin.cz and off the pool to a backup pool now for about 2 days... Before that there were missing shares. Now I'm not sure if this is related...

And since I don't see any posts from Slush I really don't see any reason to report since it took me a lot of posts explaining how I know that shares are missing and nothing changed since no one could look into that.
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May 08, 2013, 06:37:43 AM
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This is a copy paste from Bitparking:

NMC is 0.00915001 BTC per NMC at Vircurex, we earn 221.383927344 NMC per bitcoin block = 2.02566514904 BTC or 8.1% additional BTC per block
IXC is 0.000189 BTC per IXC at Vircurex, we earn 7036.7594417 IXC per bitcoin block = 1.32994753448 BTC or 5.32% additional BTC per block
DVC is 2.08e-06 BTC per DVC at Vircurex, we earn 366497.887589 DVC per bitcoin block = 0.762315606184 BTC or 3.05% additional BTC per block
Total extra BTC per block is 4.1179282897 or 16.47% extra income

Now tell me that this isn't something you would like to have...
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May 08, 2013, 07:52:29 AM
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This is a copy paste from Bitparking:

NMC is 0.00915001 BTC per NMC at Vircurex, we earn 221.383927344 NMC per bitcoin block = 2.02566514904 BTC or 8.1% additional BTC per block
IXC is 0.000189 BTC per IXC at Vircurex, we earn 7036.7594417 IXC per bitcoin block = 1.32994753448 BTC or 5.32% additional BTC per block
DVC is 2.08e-06 BTC per DVC at Vircurex, we earn 366497.887589 DVC per bitcoin block = 0.762315606184 BTC or 3.05% additional BTC per block
Total extra BTC per block is 4.1179282897 or 16.47% extra income

Now tell me that this isn't something you would like to have...

So, using numbers from my previous example - 17BTC + 16% bonus (~3BTC) = 20BTC equivalent for Bitminter vs 25BTC + no bonus for Slush ...

Given that tough choice ... I think I'd rather stay with Slush and skip the "bonus".

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May 08, 2013, 07:57:08 AM
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On a couple of my miners, I got "Failed to subscribe."

I'm using Stratum.

Is this the beginning of another DDOS? I hope not!

Some miners are fine, but at least one can't reconnect to save itself.
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May 08, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
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So, using numbers from my previous example - 17BTC + 16% bonus (~3BTC) = 20BTC equivalent for Bitminter vs 25BTC + no bonus for Slush ...

Given that tough choice ... I think I'd rather stay with Slush and skip the "bonus".
Look at luck. It was over 150% so that explain everything... So you were getting 50% extra because of luck. No idea about luck on Bitminter since I can't find this data. So remove about 8 BTC from slush total and I have no idea how much you have to add or remove from Bitminter to compensate for luck.
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May 08, 2013, 08:53:33 AM
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On a couple of my miners, I got "Failed to subscribe."

I'm using Stratum.

Is this the beginning of another DDOS? I hope not!

Some miners are fine, but at least one can't reconnect to save itself.


I have cgminer jumping from stratum.bitcoin.cz to stratum2.bitcoin.cz, stratum3.bitcoin.cz, api.bitcoin.cz and off the pool to a backup pool now for about 2 days... Before that there were missing shares. Now I'm not sure if this is related...

And since I don't see any posts from Slush I really don't see any reason to report since it took me a lot of posts explaining how I know that shares are missing and nothing changed since no one could look into that.

JP something is off

EDIT: To get such big differenced in shares per minute on such long blocks is also a sign that we have a problem... Slush please look what is going on with stratum...
17920   2013-05-08 09:41:52   0:58:30   7744110   1610   0.00480640   235130   25.06880000    94 confirmations left
17919   2013-05-08 08:43:22   2:46:21   21253005   5057   0.00600559   235121   25.11913275    85 confirmations left

17920 was 27,75 shares per minute
17919 was 30,46 shares per minute
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May 08, 2013, 10:39:21 AM
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Yeah luck yesterday was insane we found a good 30 blocks.

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May 08, 2013, 10:55:15 AM
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Yeah luck yesterday was insane we found a good 30 blocks.

But today a 10 hours only 5.
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May 08, 2013, 01:15:20 PM
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This is a copy paste from Bitparking:

NMC is 0.00915001 BTC per NMC at Vircurex, we earn 221.383927344 NMC per bitcoin block = 2.02566514904 BTC or 8.1% additional BTC per block
IXC is 0.000189 BTC per IXC at Vircurex, we earn 7036.7594417 IXC per bitcoin block = 1.32994753448 BTC or 5.32% additional BTC per block
DVC is 2.08e-06 BTC per DVC at Vircurex, we earn 366497.887589 DVC per bitcoin block = 0.762315606184 BTC or 3.05% additional BTC per block
Total extra BTC per block is 4.1179282897 or 16.47% extra income

Now tell me that this isn't something you would like to have...

So, using numbers from my previous example - 17BTC + 16% bonus (~3BTC) = 20BTC equivalent for Bitminter vs 25BTC + no bonus for Slush ...

Given that tough choice ... I think I'd rather stay with Slush and skip the "bonus".

Your previous example is flawed.  As I said after your previous example, the math isn't correct.  You are showing an example of luck.  If Slush woul have had merged mining, his btc count would have been the same.  In fact any currency he would have been mining would have been just as lucky.  

When you are mining on a pool that does merged mining, and you submit 1 share, that share gets counted toward all currencies being mined.  ALL WORK GETS COUNTED TOWARD ALL CURRENCIES.

So, based on the above example, the math shows that Bitminter would have 17btc + a 16% bonus = 20btc.  Then Slush would also have 25btc + a 16% bonus (if he was doing all the same currencies) = 29 btc.  The luck that got him more btc, would also get him more of the other currencies.

And it can work just the opposite, if Slush has bad luck an bitminter has good luck.

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May 08, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
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Seems to be an issue here.  From my calculations, 1784 / 11634278 * 25.21733124 = 0.003866825163724, not .00000048

What's the deal?
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May 08, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
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Seems to be an issue here.  From my calculations, 1784 / 11634278 * 25.21733124 = 0.003866825163724, not .00000048

What's the deal?

Give it time....

Wait at least a half hour after a block before complaining about your reward please.

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May 08, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
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Seems to be an issue here.  From my calculations, 1784 / 11634278 * 25.21733124 = 0.003866825163724, not .00000048

What's the deal?

Give it time....

Wait at least a half hour after a block before complaining about your reward please.

I see.  I thought it stayed in "Processing" until it was done, and then what you saw is what you got.  I don't mind being patient, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.  I saw an invalid block earlier, thought maybe this was some kind of adjustment.

Thanks for the quick response.
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May 08, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
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I have problem with last block as well:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    1046    0.00000024    235160    25.21733124    99 confirmations left

I should have about 0.002  Huh

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May 08, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
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The rewards get calculated at certain intervals throughout an hour.  If backend processing is still working when the rewards are calculated then they may not be correct until they get around to the next interval.

I've seen the rewards change a couple times throughout an hour...

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May 08, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
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Seems to be an issue here.  From my calculations, 1784 / 11634278 * 25.21733124 = 0.003866825163724, not .00000048

What's the deal?

Give it time....

Wait at least a half hour after a block before complaining about your reward please.

I see.  I thought it stayed in "Processing" until it was done, and then what you saw is what you got.  I don't mind being patient, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.  I saw an invalid block earlier, thought maybe this was some kind of adjustment.

Thanks for the quick response.

Many of us face the same situation with this block. This has happen quite a few times, most of the cases when the score reset is immediately before / very close to the end of the round. Slush has taken care of this, so on one side I agree - give it time, however, a timely notice will allow our pool master to take action in time, meaning before the block gets confirmed. He told that it is much harder to issue adjustments once the block is confirmed.

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May 08, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
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I have problem with last block as well:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    1046    0.00000024    235160    25.21733124    99 confirmations left

I should have about 0.002  Huh

Me too:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    1231    0.00000028    235160    25.21733124    97 confirmations left

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May 08, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
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Yeah, looks like something is up.  It should have righted itself by now if it was going to...

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May 08, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
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Ditto here.  This performance has usually been good for around .0007 BTC in a block this long, but there are an extra 4 decimals this time making it  1/10,000 of expected.

17925   2013-05-08 14:13:44   1:27:14   11634278   299   0.00000007

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