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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4381779 times)
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December 09, 2013, 03:05:33 AM
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GO SLUSH 200% LUCK!!! GO GO GO !!! (Cheerleaders needed, please apply here)

Whats the best bang for 1500 dollars ASIC wise at the moment?

Just a thought, ASIC Cubes don't look to be good value.


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Cubes? I have three jalepenos, basically mining dust at the moment. It's amazing to see what the damn things sell for on E-bay, if I was smart I'd put them on there. I'm not sure if mining is profitable unless you can afford a few tera-hashes. Don't quote me though, I'm certainly not an expert.

If you can't make a profit at 15 Gh/s, then you can't make a profit at 15,000 Gh/s either

Yeah... you can.. it depends on the cost of the hash

Really? you're going to argue this one? This is like the old joke, " i lose money on every sale, but i'll make it up in volume." What ever happens at 15 Gh/s will happen times 1000. If you lose money at the low rate, you lose at the high rate too, times 1000.

I pointed out it depends on the cost of the hash. If you can get fast hashing equipment for the right price, then yes, you will make profit on the high end than the low end. I'm not arguing in linear, because in reality it's not truly linear. If all costs were the same across the board, then what you're saying makes sense. But, that is not the case.

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December 09, 2013, 06:40:10 AM
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OK, another update: slush will follow theymos' instructions as soon as he gets online, I will send theymos another PM in case if there will be any more problems.
I bet he's not going to show up. If you could get in touch with admin and have him fix this problem this fast, Slush could have just created a new account to contact the admin months ago - if he was actually interested there are many ways to fix an account without relying on anyone else.

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December 09, 2013, 07:34:00 AM
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hopefully someone could look in to this as it's still not recalculated
21091    2013-12-07 22:35:54    0:59:51    349285622    172
I don't bother posting my payments as the miner i got only does around 1GHash/sec BTC mining.  the prob is with 3 USB ASIC they DO get alot higer shares per min than only 172 in almost an hour.

21090 and 21091 not fixed for me also. :-(
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December 09, 2013, 10:18:10 AM
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Block # 273951 is not ours  Angry
It belongs to Eligius
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December 09, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
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Block # 273951 is not ours  Angry
It belongs to Eligius
how do you know that? maybe our will be confirmed first?
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December 09, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
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21090 and 21091 not fixed for me also. :-(

Unfortunately these blocks get confirmed (and the reward has been distributed to miners) before we took the action. Pavel is trying to fix also these blocks, but it will take some. We're working on it!

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December 09, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
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Block # 273951 is not ours  Angry
It belongs to Eligius

Regards to blockchain.info this block has been mined by our pool and it valid (not orphaned)!

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December 09, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
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Hi all,

since the bitcointalk has been hacked few months ago I temporary lost the access to this forum. Now the access is recovered (thanks cosurgi!), but I'm not planning to continue with the pool support in this thread anymore, for more reasons. Mostly as newbies cannot post here, it cannot work as a full customer support; I've received many complains about this particularly. Then, it is spaghetti-style forum and it is very hard to follow the discussion.

Few days ago we started official pool support ticket system at http://support.bitcoin.cz. This support system is integrated also with support@bitcoin.cz, so writing an email to support@bitcoin.cz is the right place if you need authorized reply from one of pool admins anytime soon. Right now we're processing quite long backlog of emails there, but our target is to reply to all tickets in 24 hours. On http://support.bitcoin.cz is also knowledge base where we're filling more and more Q&A every day.

I would like to invite you also to IRC #mining.bitcoin.cz, where are many people online, ready to chat and provide basic help with all the stuff.

I'll leave this thread open for unofficial discussion, but it is out of my time possibilities to follow the discussion here :-(.

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December 09, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
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Hi all,

since the bitcointalk has been hacked few months ago I temporary lost the access to this forum. Now the access is recovered (thanks cosurgi!), but I'm not planning to continue with the pool support in this thread anymore, for more reasons. Mostly as newbies cannot post here, it cannot work as a full customer support; I've received many complains about this particularly. Then, it is spaghetti-style forum and it is very hard to follow the discussion.

Few days ago we started official pool support ticket system at http://support.bitcoin.cz. This support system is integrated also with support@bitcoin.cz, so writing an email to support@bitcoin.cz is the right place if you need authorized reply from one of pool admins anytime soon. Right now we're processing quite long backlog of emails there, but our target is to reply to all tickets in 24 hours. On http://support.bitcoin.cz is also knowledge base where we're filling more and more Q&A every day.

I would like to invite you also to IRC #mining.bitcoin.cz, where are many people online, ready to chat and provide basic help with all the stuff.

I'll leave this thread open for unofficial discussion, but it is out of my time possibilities to follow the discussion here :-(.

Welcome back Slush!
Keep the great work!
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December 09, 2013, 04:38:22 PM
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Hi all,

since the bitcointalk has been hacked few months ago I temporary lost the access to this forum. Now the access is recovered (thanks cosurgi!), but I'm not planning to continue with the pool support in this thread anymore, for more reasons. Mostly as newbies cannot post here, it cannot work as a full customer support; I've received many complains about this particularly. Then, it is spaghetti-style forum and it is very hard to follow the discussion.

Few days ago we started official pool support ticket system at http://support.bitcoin.cz. This support system is integrated also with support@bitcoin.cz, so writing an email to support@bitcoin.cz is the right place if you need authorized reply from one of pool admins anytime soon. Right now we're processing quite long backlog of emails there, but our target is to reply to all tickets in 24 hours. On http://support.bitcoin.cz is also knowledge base where we're filling more and more Q&A every day.

I would like to invite you also to IRC #mining.bitcoin.cz, where are many people online, ready to chat and provide basic help with all the stuff.

I'll leave this thread open for unofficial discussion, but it is out of my time possibilities to follow the discussion here :-(.

Welcome back Slush!
Keep the great work!

+1!

Also, has anyone elses estimated rewards dropped recently? I was seeing 0.00022 per round with 3GH/s before but yesterday and today it's dropped down to like 0.00014 per round and my hashrate hasn't fallen at all
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December 09, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
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Diff is shooting up Sad
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December 09, 2013, 04:44:23 PM
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The pool's hashrate jumped from 370Gh to 450Gh, which is the reason for the reward drop per round

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December 09, 2013, 05:58:32 PM
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Cluster performance going down
From 440 to 340, why?


Probably because many workers are no longer accounted...

Maybe there was a network problem?

Its now back up to 450

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Last edit: December 09, 2013, 06:30:24 PM by gourmet
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Cluster performance going down
From 440 to 340, why?


Probably because many workers are no longer accounted...

Maybe there was a network problem?

Its now back up to 450

Just a quarter of an hour after the OP (or just two posts thereafter, if you prefer):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg3876707#msg3876707
It's back for about 30 hours already... :-)
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December 09, 2013, 08:08:56 PM
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is there a threshold to the difficulty level or will it continue to rise until all have been given out via lottery? crazy that I would need about 60GHash/sec to get the return I was getting with 0.25-0.5GHash/sec just 6 months ago.. would take 16 months just to break even at a 1btc=1k USD rate. if the difficulty keeps rising at the rate it is now, would we need 120x more powerful hardware in 6 months again too?


conclusion: asics currently overpriced most likely due to the volatile btc value from retailers accepting btc
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December 09, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
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... would we need 120x more powerful hardware in 6 months ...
The hardware will be 10 times (not 120x but still quite an increase) more powerful, so if you want to keep your income steady, you will need a recent hardware ... do you still use your old 386 or even Pentium I (if you are old enough to ever had one of course)?

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December 09, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
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No but I do still like coding BASIC on my TRS-80 Smiley
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December 09, 2013, 08:21:44 PM
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No but I do still like coding BASIC on my TRS-80 Smiley

My Tandy 1000HX will totally outmine your TRS 80. Bring it! Wink

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December 09, 2013, 08:27:59 PM
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... would we need 120x more powerful hardware in 6 months ...
The hardware will be 10 times (not 120x but still quite an increase) more powerful, so if you want to keep your income steady, you will need a recent hardware ... do you still use your old 386 or even Pentium I (if you are old enough to ever had one of course)?


recycled/donated anything that old ages ago.. mostly Pentium4's and PentiumD's and the AthlonX2 (or whatever the equiv at the time was) lying around my garage.

hd 4870 in one of them pulling 70, a gtx480 in a cpl year old gaming rig pulling 130, and a gts250 pulling 30 in the few years-older rig addition to a cpu mining botnet I have running at night with some client computers. nothing crazy but it was getting me 0.01 per day last summer until I tried to deal with mtgox and lost my morale with btc's when I couldn't get my hands on any USD.. then tried another broker recently when the price spiked and wanted to get back into the game.


looks like you can get about 70GH/sec for about 3.5k if you buy 2 cubes full of blades chalked full of block erupter miners... at this point you need to drop long paper into a 1,200GH/sec miner or go home.
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December 09, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
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... would we need 120x more powerful hardware in 6 months ...
The hardware will be 10 times (not 120x but still quite an increase) more powerful, so if you want to keep your income steady, you will need a recent hardware ... do you still use your old 386 or even Pentium I (if you are old enough to ever had one of course)?


recycled/donated anything that old ages ago.. mostly Pentium4's and PentiumD's and the AthlonX2 (or whatever the equiv at the time was) lying around my garage.

hd 4870 in one of them pulling 70, a gtx480 in a cpl year old gaming rig pulling 130, and a gts250 pulling 30 in the few years-older rig addition to a cpu mining botnet I have running at night with some client computers. nothing crazy but it was getting me 0.01 per day last summer until I tried to deal with mtgox and lost my morale with btc's when I couldn't get my hands on any USD.. then tried another broker recently when the price spiked and wanted to get back into the game.


looks like you can get about 70GH/sec for about 3.5k if you buy 2 cubes full of blades chalked full of block erupter miners... at this point you need to drop long paper into a 1,200GH/sec miner or go home.

You can probably get a 14oGH/150GH KNC rig for that on ebay, I've seen a few go for that ballpark lately. Mine manages just under 1BTC a week after the latest diff increase, down from just over. So If I bought it today it would probably more than break even. It did that weeks ago though. All jam now until it costs more to power than it mines.
In 3-6 months the 20nm rigs will be out, hashing at roughly 3TH for 13k a pop, power required will be much more, 2kw range ...so it's getting industrial now.
The most important thing to consider isn't difficulty or power or speed though. It's delivery. IF you're paying that kind of money you'll get a rig with a pretty short sweet spot where it makes the lion's share of it's income, and if it's like BFL...you'll miss that boat. You won't be hashing until its not worth it. Buying a big ASIC is very risky. A month lost hashing while others have been delivered to drive the difficulty up is a killer. Lose you serious income.


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