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October 11, 2014, 07:15:13 PM |
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No worries ... do what you have to do! Impressive farm you have out there ..... but you can reduce your investment by steering clear of OFF-THE-SHELF psu's and opting for server psu's if you are not afraid to get your hands dirty. (just my 2 cents)
Agreed... I'm a stickler for good equipment! Thought I could sell them on eBay and get some of my investment back if worse came to worse. Fair enough for being a stickler for good (looking?) equipment, and yes, you can recoup some of the outlay by flogging the PSU's on ebay. My approach to bitcoin mining is that the golden egg is the ASIC rig and not the PSU (though technically a rig has to include the PSU!), but seeing how quickly the ASIC rigs depreciate, I target the fastest route to ROI on the complete rig, and for that, a server PSU does the trick. For my S3+'s, I use a Dell server PSU that I can get running for no more than 20 GBP (approx 30 USD), that including the PSU itself, all the wiring and the required 6 pin PCIe sockets. But then again, the PSU's I use may not work for you if you are not on a 230V supply. But that means that I treat the PSU as disposable and do not look to recoping anything from them (should the worst happen!), but in terms of good equipment, they sure are designed better than normal PC PSU's.
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October 11, 2014, 07:17:52 PM |
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No worries ... do what you have to do! Impressive farm you have out there ..... but you can reduce your investment by steering clear of OFF-THE-SHELF psu's and opting for server psu's if you are not afraid to get your hands dirty. (just my 2 cents)
Agreed... I'm a stickler for good equipment! Thought I could sell them on eBay and get some of my investment back if worse came to worse. Fair enough for being a stickler for good (looking?) equipment, and yes, you can recoup some of the outlay by flogging the PSU's on ebay. My approach to bitcoin mining is that the golden egg is the ASIC rig and not the PSU (though technically a rig has to include the PSU!), but seeing how quickly the ASIC rigs depreciate, I target the fastest route to ROI on the complete rig, and for that, a server PSU does the trick. For my S3+'s, I use a Dell server PSU that I can get running for no more than 20 GBP (approx 30 USD), that including the PSU itself, all the wiring and the required 6 pin PCIe sockets. But then again, the PSU's I use may not work for you if you are not on a 230V supply. But that means that I treat the PSU as disposable, but in terms of good equipment, they sure are designed better than normal PC PSU's. No, 120 volt. I suppose I could set up a 230V receptacle. However, I have already invested all I will invest in S3's with the PSU's I already have. All I'm getting now are S4's from here on out. I just finished eating. Gotta go get gas for my mower now. I keep my computer up all the time. So, even though it says i'm online, it doesn't mean I'm at the computer. Later guys. Gotta do some work.
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October 11, 2014, 09:48:17 PM Last edit: October 11, 2014, 10:04:54 PM by dmwardjr |
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Finished mowing the yard. Back inside and straightened up [just a little bit] after hooking up the 13th S3. I am so looking forward to those other 3 S3's getting here Monday. I'm chilling the rest of the day. I'll work on the sub panel this evening [maybe] but most certainly tomorrow. I've been remodeling the downstairs. That is new tile on the floor. That's also why you do not see base molding yet [remodeling]. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5Fi0GiB.jpg&t=665&c=TuIhOGRNKz42vA) 48-Port Gigabit Rackmount Switch by TP-LINK TL-SG1048 Highlights: 48 10/100/1000Mbps RJ45 ports Innovative energy-efficient technology saves power up to 70% Supports MAC address self-learning and auto MDI/MDIX Standard 19-inch rack-mountable steel case The 48-Port Gigabit Switch TL-SG1048 is designed to meet the needs of the most demanding workgroup and departmental connectivity requirements. A reliable, easy-to-use switch without the complexity of management, the TL-SG1048 provides 48 10/100/1000Mbps ports. The TL-SG1048 combines ease of use with unsurpassed performance resulting in an exceptional value for any cost-conscious network administrator who wants the best possible solution at the best possible price. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fhjb9iqJ.jpg&t=665&c=KCOjyGSBGc4Dlg)
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October 11, 2014, 10:16:57 PM Last edit: October 11, 2014, 10:41:14 PM by Billbags |
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I love new miner porn ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 11, 2014, 10:17:44 PM |
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I love new miner porn ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) LOL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) never heard it spoken that way before. lol
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October 11, 2014, 10:43:34 PM |
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Finished mowing the yard.
Back inside and straightened up [just a little bit] after hooking up the 13th S3. I am so looking forward to those other 3 S3's getting here Monday.
I'm chilling the rest of the day. I'll work on the sub panel this evening [maybe] but most certainly tomorrow.
I've been remodeling the downstairs. That is new tile on the floor. That's also why you do not see base molding yet [remodeling].
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I think your next step will be to manage that exhaust efficiently, including that from the PSU's. With your setup, I'd be tempted to simply muzzle each exhaust fan and redirect either outside or to heating, but you have the PSU hest to contend with. I keep my rig in the garden (I built a fairly water-tight cubicle for them from scavenged kitchen cabinets) and simply exhaust it out, and the ambient is never that high (even in the just ended HOT summer here!).
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October 11, 2014, 10:44:32 PM |
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i have no clue WHY they are keeping me at "activity 28." and a "newbie." NO IDEA?
Somebody doesn't like me.
That's cool...
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October 11, 2014, 10:54:42 PM |
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Finished mowing the yard.
Back inside and straightened up [just a little bit] after hooking up the 13th S3. I am so looking forward to those other 3 S3's getting here Monday.
I'm chilling the rest of the day. I'll work on the sub panel this evening [maybe] but most certainly tomorrow.
I've been remodeling the downstairs. That is new tile on the floor. That's also why you do not see base molding yet [remodeling].
EDIT: >>> redacted image <<<
I think your next step will be to manage that exhaust efficiently, including that from the PSU's. With your setup, I'd be tempted to simply muzzle each exhaust fan and redirect either outside or to heating, but you have the PSU hest to contend with. I keep my rig in the garden (I built a fairly water-tight cubicle for them from scavenged kitchen cabinets) and simply exhaust it out, and the ambient is never that high (even in the just ended HOT summer here!). My plans are to build a cubical out of 2x4 framing and plywood walls with hinged doors for access RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW. I want to have 3 exhaust fans. 1st for exhaust to suck heat out of the window during the summer with switch to turn off or on. 2nd to suck air into the cubical with switch to turn of or on. 3rd built up high in the cubical facing into the recreation room downstairs to turn on during the winter to heat the house. The room is downstairs. Heat rises and these things put out LOTS of heat. It is a double hung window. I'm taking the windows out and putting plywood in their place with holes cut into it for the exhaust fans. I will put siding on the plywood from the outside to keep the plywood safe from water so it doesn't warp or mildew.
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October 11, 2014, 11:12:35 PM |
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My plans are to build a cubical out of 2x4 framing and plywood walls with hinged doors for access RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
I want to have 3 exhaust fans.
1st for exhaust to suck heat out of the window during the summer with switch to turn off or on. 2nd to suck air into the cubical with switch to turn of or on. 3rd built up high in the cubical facing into the recreation room downstairs to turn on during the winter to heat the house. The room is downstairs. Heat rises and these things put out LOTS of heat.
It is a double hung window. I'm taking the windows out and putting plywood in their place with holes cut into it for the exhaust fans. I will put siding on the plywood from the outside to keep the plywood safe from water so it doesn't warp or mildew.
You know I mentioned how fast ASIC rigs depreciate? If I were you, I'd desist from making major structural changes to your house to cater for a particular ASIC rig. And like you said, your next rigs are S4's and they may require a different setup to the S3's and in any case both of which may turn out to be obsolete within the year! But yeah, using the heat exhausted for this winter's heating is definitely one I have on the radar too.
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October 11, 2014, 11:17:22 PM |
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My plans are to build a cubical out of 2x4 framing and plywood walls with hinged doors for access RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
I want to have 3 exhaust fans.
1st for exhaust to suck heat out of the window during the summer with switch to turn off or on. 2nd to suck air into the cubical with switch to turn of or on. 3rd built up high in the cubical facing into the recreation room downstairs to turn on during the winter to heat the house. The room is downstairs. Heat rises and these things put out LOTS of heat.
It is a double hung window. I'm taking the windows out and putting plywood in their place with holes cut into it for the exhaust fans. I will put siding on the plywood from the outside to keep the plywood safe from water so it doesn't warp or mildew.
You know I mentioned how fast ASIC rigs depreciate? If I were you, I'd desist from making major structural changes to your house to cater for a particular ASIC rig. And like you said, your next rigs are S4's and they may require a different setup to the S3's and in any case both of which may turn out to be obsolete within the year! But yeah, using the heat exhausted for this winter's heating is definitely one I have on the radar too. It will be just this one set up. I have 2 more empty shelves on top [that you do not see in the pic] and 1 empty on the bottom to hold my S4's. Their is room for adjustment on the racks to make plenty of room for approximately 36 S4's turned on their sides IF I got rid of the S3's. However, I don't have the AMPS in this house for 36 S4's. 17,000 to 18,000 watts is the max I will go.
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October 11, 2014, 11:19:02 PM |
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That is impressive! You sure are putting some outlay on your rigs! I wonder what hashing power for a set period you'd need to ROI with that installed? Saying that, is your best option mining in a pool rather than running your own P2Pool node? I've promised myself a couple of S4's (if I can get them in the next month) and I will then revert to my own node. I live near an exchange so latency "should" not be an issue.
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October 11, 2014, 11:25:08 PM |
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That is impressive! You sure are putting some outlay on your rigs! I wonder what hashing power for a set period you'd need to ROI with that installed? Saying that, is your best option mining in a pool rather than running your own P2Pool node? I've promised myself a couple of S4's (if I can get them in the next month) and I will then revert to my own node. I live near an exchange so latency "should" not be an issue. LOL I was actually looking into the same thing on P2Pool last night. However, it is something else I have to look up on youtube and google to educate myself. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoG0dMzB.jpg&t=665&c=W0YsP7EnZbe_Mw) You see how much more room I have? Don't forget the bottom shelf not in the picture. I know there is room for at least 30 S4's
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October 11, 2014, 11:32:53 PM |
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^^^^ No doubt, you have enough space! And neither am I so conversant with the merits of either, nevertheless, despite being in a different league than you are in terms of hashing power, I'll be running a node when I get my puny S4's on board! BTW, you also may be ripe for mining through a proxy, but again not much guidance from this end! EDIT: -Did you just see that? We won a 4 second block! EDIT2: - Nooooo! Same block number! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fsotqeaakj%2F2secblock.png&t=665&c=1AxKJqXredXcuA)
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October 11, 2014, 11:36:23 PM Last edit: October 12, 2014, 01:49:47 AM by dmwardjr |
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This is with 23.7 Th/s [8 S4's and 16 S3's and other accessories; such as air conditioner unit.] $17,480.00 with 3 month time frame and BTC @ $400.00
Difficulty 35,002,482,026.00 Mining Factor 100 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s as in these charts Average generation time for a block (solo) 73 days, 10 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) Hardware break even 262 days Net profit first time frame -10689.21 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.3405 BTC Power cost per 24h 59.40 USD Revenue per day 136.43 USD Less power costs 77.03 USD System efficiency 1436.36 MH/s/W Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s Average Mining Factor 100 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s Power cost per time frame 5423.96 USD Revenue per time frame (3 months) 11718.75 USD Less power costs 6294.79 USD
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October 11, 2014, 11:39:05 PM |
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sucks 4 second block is an orphan to our 8 hr block lol ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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BTC ADDY just in case you are my rich uncle lol 1KCQ4fXa3mWBvBsYRLmWY4QHqBa4ZYFdh6
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October 11, 2014, 11:39:17 PM |
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^^^^ No doubt, you have enough space! And neither am I so conversant with the merits of either, nevertheless, despite being in a different league than you are in terms of hashing power, I'll be running a node when I get my puny S4's on board! BTW, you also may be ripe for mining through a proxy, but again not much guidance from this end!
EDIT: -Did you just see that? We won a 4 second block!
wow No didn't see it
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October 11, 2014, 11:41:04 PM |
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sucks 4 second block is an orphan to our 8 hr block lol ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) DAMN
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October 11, 2014, 11:42:02 PM |
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sucks 4 second block is an orphan to our 8 hr block lol ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Bummer! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fsotqeaakj%2F2secblock.png&t=665&c=1AxKJqXredXcuA)
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October 11, 2014, 11:47:29 PM |
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This is with 23.7 Th/s [8 S4's and 16 S3's and other accessories; such as air conditioner unit.] $17,480.00
Difficulty 35,002,482,026.00 Mining Factor 100 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s as in these charts Average generation time for a block (solo) 73 days, 10 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) Hardware break even 262 days Net profit first time frame -10689.21 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.3405 BTC Power cost per 24h 59.40 USD Revenue per day 136.43 USD Less power costs 77.03 USD System efficiency 1436.36 MH/s/W Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s Average Mining Factor 100 0.00 USD/24h@100MHash/s Power cost per time frame 5423.96 USD Revenue per time frame 11718.75 USD Less power costs 6294.79 USD
With that hashing power, I'd have my own solo pool (using the ckpool code) and a P2Pool node. Would definitely mine solo every other fortnight for at least a week depending on fortnight's earnings. FORGOT TO ADD: - At current difficulty (different animal next year!)
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