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August 05, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
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I just started the new twitter feed AnoncoinNews

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinNews

If anyone has a good icon to use, let me know!

A rundown of what's out there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnonCoin / last post March 26, guy falkes logo, mostly seems about marijuana

Google search Anoncoin Twitter
First result is the page with endless " fix richtext detection hang issue on very old qt wallets" etc. pure poison.
Second result is mr Marijuana who hasn't posted since March 26.

I don't use twitter but my guess is it was a good idea to make this new account and the other new one a few weeks ago.

March 26 2012  : )

We have team, project and news
team is working, on project who is not shutdown, and news are coming

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August 05, 2014, 08:58:19 PM
Last edit: August 05, 2014, 09:08:39 PM by drAGon925
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Pablo, that was good post, why are you delete him? : )


WARNING:

do not use new deposit addresses on Cryptsy ,
if you need to deposit, use old addresses what you already used..

I sent to new, and nothing came..

that info I get from Cryptsy support

Thank you for contacting us about this issue.
ANC deposits have been delayed.
We are in process of upgrading our system and wallets.
We are in process of swapping out our ANC hot wallets for new wallets.
Deposits will continue to post for the old addresses, but until the process is complete, there may be some delays.
Please generate a new deposit address for faster processing.



and what go next is very stupid, or they think I am..

Your deposit transaction will be posted anytime soon.
Please bear with us its still in the process.

If you will make a new deposit transaction you can generate new deposit address to make the transaction faster.


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August 05, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
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I've been working on a new anoncoin.net.

The new site is an one page only with as little text as possible, referring to the wiki for details and social media or forums for news.

It's important to communicate to 2 groups - normal users and hard core tech people.
Since they want different information in different channels the page should be simple but informative enough for the normal user to get interested and started. The tech guy should be satisfied by the wiki easily found just around the corner and filled with detailed info.

So -  no detailed info or news feed, just links to it.

The style is supposed to be techy yet simple, old school in a modern way, underground but fresh.

Plain html/css, no php/sql/javascript/ajax/google/facebook.

http://image.bayimg.com/24527a19f17592d44c7d9eaab5b350b2f9d159ea.jpg

The texts have not been my priority and are "work in progress" together with lunokhod2.
But please give input on all levels.

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Hi n00n,

I really like the design of the web site. My comments here will only be related to the text and the choice of a "one page" format.

I realize that the text is not finished, nevertheless, I feel that there is not enough information on the one-page format to describe what anoncoin is, how it is different from other coins, and why a casual internet user should download the client after reading the page. I totally agree that we should keep the tech talk down to a minimum, but I feel that it might be a good idea to have a link to a second page that describes what the coin is all about. I personally would have created a second page that copies this text from the actual web site: https://anoncoin.net/index.php/the-coin In particular, I think that we need to address the question: Why does anonymity matter? And What is Zerocoin? I don't think that the text as written is too tech oriented (but I could be wrong...).

Second, I think that it would be very useful to have a third page that describes how to download the client, how to set it up, and to give some real basic security advice (such as encrypting the wallet and using I2P). I worry that if we burry this in the wiki (which is heavy on text) that the average user will have a hard time finding this (or simply will chose not to look). In general, the average user will probably not read the wiki, so all information should be in the graphical web site.

Finally, I think that the main web page should probably include a list of the developers, along with their expertise. This is useful so that the casual user will realize that there is a team of developers, and not just one person. This could probably be appended to one of the three pages.

In the end, I feel that a 3-page web site should be sufficient to address my concerns. With the given format, it should be trivial to add such pages, if that is what the consensus turns out to be. Of course, this is just my opinion... Smiley

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August 05, 2014, 10:40:27 PM
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That's why there should be videos about Anoncoin.

1x Video on a general explanation on what Anoncoin is
1x Video on how to set up he wallet for beginners, how to encrypt, how to deal with paper wallets, how to swap ANC to Zerocoin

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August 06, 2014, 02:13:39 AM
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I like the two pronged approach:

A straight-forward easily understood front for the casual user, and an in-depth tech heavy
explanation for the user more interested in the details.

Also, I agree that everybody needs a primer on why privacy is important, not just from the
prying eyes of the civil servant, but also as protection from the criminal, and in-laws.

Now, I think there is also merit in the video idea for those who prefer getting info and instruction
that way.

The three page approach ought to work, with video either up front or on another page.

What about an android compatible ANC wallet?  Has that been done yet?

Now, as far as mining goes, I haven't had much trouble with that, although I'm small scale.
It wouldn't be hard to explain in writing how I did it so that someone else could pull it off
with gpu or a gridseed unit, and the mining software I use.

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August 06, 2014, 03:58:29 AM
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Hello to all my ANC friends  Smiley

I just created and released the ANC Green Faucet to spread Anoncoin in ensuring an equitable distribution.

For more informations, please access to the link below:
https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/

I hope that all of us will like it and help the faucet to spread ANC with a donation.

I spend a lot of hours creating it from the scratch to avoid the abusive use of the faucet. More informations on the Faucet Specs:
https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/specifications.php

Through this project, I learned how to install and operate a full node to the ANC Network with a VPS hosted in France.
It therefore appeared to me many ideas for projects related to ANC or others cryptos that could indirectly promote ANC.

Thanks!

I just advertised it on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/496864813453438977

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August 06, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
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Does anoncoin have a youtube channel? I'm too lazy to check, easier to ask then see if someone answers here.

I didn't check,  but no.
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August 06, 2014, 08:18:50 AM
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whats up with this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoncoin

someone please make an article there based on wiki.anoncoin.net, and put links to anoncoin.net on there - good for SEO.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkcoin nice page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin nice page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertcoin niceish page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackCoin niceish page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddcoin niceish page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastercoin nice page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MazaCoin nice page!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroracoin nice page!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoncoin This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

    20:10, 3 April 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Anoncoin (Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G4)
    02:58, 15 December 2013 Mark Arsten (talk | contribs) deleted page Anoncoin (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anoncoin)

Wait. Speedy deletion criteria?

OK What the FUCK. I will personally make sure those are deleted if Anoncoin won't be there. We're fucking mentioned by NYTimes, The Economist, The Wired, Nasdaq(!!!).

Bounty: 100 ANC for either:
1) Make sure Anoncoin is back on Wikipedia for good. Arguments like WTF does those above do there without beeing mentioned by "small" companies like NYTimes, The Economist, The Wired and Nasdaq(!!!).
OR,
2) Remove all other coins and let them stay deleted because of same reasons as the Anoncoin page.

If you don't know what Nasdaq is, it' those who has a stock marked for BIG companies.. E.x Microsoft, Facebook and Google(AFAIK)?

Make it today or within 72hours starting now? Earn 15 ANC extra. EDIT: No fuck say 25 ANC, those fuckers above are all younger coins than Anoncoin, and should be seen more as copycat and shitcoins than Anoncoin which at least started BEFORE the fucking "I want my own coin" -hype.
(If mods are cooky and it's a public discussion ongoing, this will still be paid if the deadline runs out if the person actually give it all agains the mods.(If they want war, give them fucking war))

Tip; read the Anoncoin evaluation to see what we did wrong on first try.


References;
https://forum.anoncoin.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=454

Other places announced;
https://sigterm.no/blog/85/

About payment;
Payment will be done when we're sure the page won't be deleted. Either in form that we argue with WHY other shitcoins, or yea.. It must has been "ACCEPTED" by a moderator as a final, and no "sandbox" evualiation.

A great person here gave us some info;

Wikipedia is notorious for deleting new pages, however, although it may seem inconsistent with some pages that exist, and assuming no bias, there are specific requirements that they look for in allowing a page to exist there. A publicity or opinion page will be removed almost as soon as seen by mods, usually with an explanation and it being placed in a 'sandbox' area (I might be using wrong term here). What wikipedia likes for inclusion in their site are 'notable' references. This means links to articles or papers that differentiate it from other similar products (and there are loads of crapcoins out there probably doing the same thing). Attempts to do this prematurely can lead to bias. Best strategy for inclusion in wikipedia is to wait until the previously mentioned bounty article is published on a crypto news site. Links to this and technical articles on the wiki assist the wikipedia mods in establishing 'notability'.

Having some experience with wikipedia in the past with another coin, led me to bow out and leave it to someone else, as there is a lot of back and forth between the mods who sandbox it, and the individual who is trying to comply with their requests. It is a case of too many cooks spoil the broth. Getting an article on wikipedia is a task that requires some dedication, patience and catering to mods opinions, and quite a few hours over several days.

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August 06, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
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Sidenote/news;

I, as you, are tired of people exploits Gnosis's energy at dayjob resulting in slow progress. So I and him has talked a while and I will start the ZC integration on the points where I can help him, under his overview so I do it correctly according to his plans who has used most time on this case. Hopefully we can have a testnet soon. But this(first testnet version) won't be "trustless" since the RSA UFO generation is an ongoing progress and this would be a a first run test. Kind of like a PoC code. Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 08:55:19 AM
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I just started the new twitter feed AnoncoinNews

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinNews

If anyone has a good icon to use, let me know!

Just to say it, ^- Follow above. I'm more or less giving that account a official status just as the @AnoncoinProject.

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August 06, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
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Does anoncoin have a youtube channel? I'm too lazy to check, easier to ask then see if someone answers here.

No sorry. We don't have any movies AFAIK. Wanna create something? Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 09:03:44 AM
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Meeh: I think the article on Anoncoin was not well written and got deleted. Most importantly , What we have to do is , create more sites based on Anoncoin.  Write  more articles in different news sites.  We have to accept that , even though Anoncoin is older, It has received very less press coverage compared to the shitcoins.  

What we need is more content on ANC Wiki site and We have to get Other bloggers to write about Anoncoin.
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August 06, 2014, 09:04:02 AM
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I've been working on a new anoncoin.net.

The new site is an one page only with as little text as possible, referring to the wiki for details and social media or forums for news.

It's important to communicate to 2 groups - normal users and hard core tech people.
Since they want different information in different channels the page should be simple but informative enough for the normal user to get interested and started. The tech guy should be satisfied by the wiki easily found just around the corner and filled with detailed info.

So -  no detailed info or news feed, just links to it.

The style is supposed to be techy yet simple, old school in a modern way, underground but fresh.

Plain html/css, no php/sql/javascript/ajax/google/facebook.

http://image.bayimg.com/24527a19f17592d44c7d9eaab5b350b2f9d159ea.jpg

The texts have not been my priority and are "work in progress" together with lunokhod2.
But please give input on all levels.

Smiley

Actually I like it. As you say, plain html/css. (Which makes it great for the darknet guests who hate JS). + It gives impression about more like "old hacker" 80's theme or what I should say, hard to define it right now. But I think it's nice. Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 09:05:12 AM
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Meeh: I think the article on Anoncoin was not well written and got deleted. Most importantly , What we have to do is , create more sites based on Anoncoin.  Write  more articles in different news sites.  We have to accept that , even though Anoncoin is older, It has received very less press coverage compared to the shitcoins.  

What we need is more content on ANC Wiki site and We have to get Other bloggers to write about Anoncoin.

Yes, it's true. (But no, I don't think all those coins, maybe a few of them, but not all, has been mentioned more). But still, I'm holding the bounty open. Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
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I've been working on a new anoncoin.net.

The new site is an one page only with as little text as possible, referring to the wiki for details and social media or forums for news.

It's important to communicate to 2 groups - normal users and hard core tech people.
Since they want different information in different channels the page should be simple but informative enough for the normal user to get interested and started. The tech guy should be satisfied by the wiki easily found just around the corner and filled with detailed info.

So -  no detailed info or news feed, just links to it.

The style is supposed to be techy yet simple, old school in a modern way, underground but fresh.

Plain html/css, no php/sql/javascript/ajax/google/facebook.

http://image.bayimg.com/24527a19f17592d44c7d9eaab5b350b2f9d159ea.jpg

The texts have not been my priority and are "work in progress" together with lunokhod2.
But please give input on all levels.

Smiley
n00n , I will send you the design with little changes. But we are moving in the right direction. We will only have one html file for anoncoin.net and rest articles will go to wiki.
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August 06, 2014, 09:10:16 AM
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Finally updated the Block Explorer code ( http://ancblockchain.com ) . It is little faster.  You wont notice any change in the frontend though. But currently, it runs on nginx . Serves static files using nginx and apache for Abe Explorer.  I am still in touch with @Jtobey , and we may get a lot of performance improvement very soon.
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August 06, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
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Yes, it's true. (But no, I don't think all those coins, maybe a few of them, but not all, has been mentioned more). But still, I'm holding the bounty open. Smiley
Yeah. Keep the bounty open Smiley
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August 06, 2014, 09:14:45 AM
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Finally updated the Block Explorer code ( http://ancblockchain.com ) . It is little faster.  You wont notice any change in the frontend though. But currently, it runs on nginx . Serves static files using nginx and apache for Abe Explorer.  I am still in touch with @Jtobey , and we may get a lot of performance improvement very soon.

Geekz, backup config etc to make sure you got copies of <working settings> in case of shit/screwup. A snapshot of a VM if it's running in one is maybe the absolute best! Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 09:22:07 AM
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Meeh: I think the article on Anoncoin was not well written and got deleted. Most importantly , What we have to do is , create more sites based on Anoncoin.  Write  more articles in different news sites.  We have to accept that , even though Anoncoin is older, It has received very less press coverage compared to the shitcoins.  

What we need is more content on ANC Wiki site and We have to get Other bloggers to write about Anoncoin.
For info, the last wikipedia deletion had nothing to do with the quality of the article. It was deleted on the grounds that Anoncoin is not notable.  In particular, all facts need to be referenced by respectable sources: github, BCT, the anoncoin web site, twitter, and several of the crappy cryptocoin web sites don't count. The first version of the article was poorly written and not notable. The second version (which I wrote) was a speedy deletion, meaning that there was almost no deliberation as the article had been already deleted once before.

I'll combine Meeh's list of press coverage with those on the wiki here by the end of the day: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Articles_about_Anoncoin_and_Zerocoin

The trick will be referencing these in the main text (as opposed to just listing them as reading material at the end of the article).
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August 06, 2014, 09:36:51 AM
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Meeh: I think the article on Anoncoin was not well written and got deleted. Most importantly , What we have to do is , create more sites based on Anoncoin.  Write  more articles in different news sites.  We have to accept that , even though Anoncoin is older, It has received very less press coverage compared to the shitcoins.  

What we need is more content on ANC Wiki site and We have to get Other bloggers to write about Anoncoin.
For info, the last wikipedia deletion had nothing to do with the quality of the article. It was deleted on the grounds that Anoncoin is not notable.  In particular, all facts need to be referenced by respectable sources: github, BCT, the anoncoin web site, twitter, and several of the crappy cryptocoin web sites don't count. The first version of the article was poorly written and not notable. The second version (which I wrote) was a speedy deletion, meaning that there was almost no deliberation as the article had been already deleted once before.

I'll combine Meeh's list of press coverage with those on the wiki here by the end of the day: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Articles_about_Anoncoin_and_Zerocoin

The trick will be referencing these in the main text (as opposed to just listing them as reading material at the end of the article).

......And this is why I created a bounty on 1) Get it there , or 2) Get those other fucks out of there.

If wikipedia mods want war, they shall have it!

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