ibminer
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August 16, 2013, 08:27:55 PM |
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A little disappointed we haven't gotten any type of update from Yifu at this point. It's the end of the week, are the chips shipping... or just samples? Whatever - I've given up caring - and soon to follow is my care for bitcoins. There are too many elements against bitcoin as it is... At this point, I'd prefer seeing Yifu do the truffle shuffle before getting the chips shipped.  |
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rocks
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August 16, 2013, 08:34:59 PM |
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Sure, you can ask the government for help, but please realize that that is like asking the Mafia to fix your problem. It will get fixed, for sure, but in a way that will make all of us losers in the end. I suppose this is how the government grows in size indefinitely: by us inviting it to govern more and more of our affairs.
If the FEDs took down pirate there is no reason to think they will not pursue an $8M scam and get Yifu. In fact I think they will be highly motivated to so. |
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Newscastix
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August 16, 2013, 08:50:11 PM |
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Sure, you can ask the government for help, but please realize that that is like asking the Mafia to fix your problem. It will get fixed, for sure, but in a way that will make all of us losers in the end. I suppose this is how the government grows in size indefinitely: by us inviting it to govern more and more of our affairs.
If the FEDs took down pirate there is no reason to think they will not pursue an $8M scam and get Yifu. In fact I think they will be highly motivated to so. Pirate was a US citizien, or? Yifu is not.. so it wouldn't be as easy... |
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pajak666
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August 16, 2013, 08:54:05 PM |
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Sure, you can ask the government for help, but please realize that that is like asking the Mafia to fix your problem. It will get fixed, for sure, but in a way that will make all of us losers in the end. I suppose this is how the government grows in size indefinitely: by us inviting it to govern more and more of our affairs.
How come this can be bad? If we will never roi than it is better to get back bitcoins back than those outdated chips. I imagine that this can take some time, but we paid in bitcoins so we will get refund in bitcoins (ammount that we will never be able to mine). There were no price in other currency than btc, yifu shot himself in the foot with this one. Law enforced refund would have to be done in bitcoins. Group buyers please save our money and sue bitsyncom before it's too late. I believe community will be more than happy to cover the losses of assemblers, it shouldn't be a big fraction of 14 mil usd:) |
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BitSyncom (OP)
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August 16, 2013, 08:54:16 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
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Bitcoinorama
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August 16, 2013, 08:55:57 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
That's more like it. |
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Minor Miner
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August 16, 2013, 08:57:06 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
What of the pictures of either 1 or 2MM avalons chips from June 25? Want to clear that up Yifu? |
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zurg
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August 16, 2013, 08:59:25 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Gone to mafia payout? Lol j. K. |
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Xian01
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August 16, 2013, 09:00:22 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Yay ! Looking forward to the flood of K16's, BitBurners, and other community projects ! |
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spiccioli
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August 16, 2013, 09:00:28 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Yifu, what about refunds? spiccioli |
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bitcoiner49er
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August 16, 2013, 09:13:35 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Out from where? (Sorry, I can't accept anything but full disclosure at this point.) Out from TSMC/manufacturer? Out to customs (to wait for "X" number of weeks? Out to DHL? Out to group buyers? |
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MinermanNC
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August 16, 2013, 09:17:02 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Out from where? (Sorry, I can't accept anything but full disclosure at this point.) Out from TSMC/manufacturer? Out to customs (to wait for "X" number of weeks? Out to DHL? Out to group buyers? Ya, very vague at best... who was it that was calculating orders vs shipments? so out of 130k chips who can expect how much and when?  |
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ionstorm
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August 16, 2013, 09:17:33 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
jesus christ ^ we need more updates like these |
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ionstorm
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August 16, 2013, 09:18:09 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Out from where? (Sorry, I can't accept anything but full disclosure at this point.) Out from TSMC/manufacturer? Out to customs (to wait for "X" number of weeks? Out to DHL? Out to group buyers? Ya, very vague at best... who was it that was calculating orders vs shipments? so out of 130k chips who can expect how much and when? I wonder if steamboats is in one of them shipments? would love to see some shipping info |
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FlappySocks
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August 16, 2013, 09:18:24 PM |
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Yifu, please address the compensation issue. Talk to us. You can put things right, and put an end to the hate.
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bit_wizard
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August 16, 2013, 09:20:37 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
@BitSyncom - In my opinion, GO F*CK YOURSELF! And I hope you and your associates get whats coming to them; a slew of lawsuits! |
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SebastianJu
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August 16, 2013, 09:21:26 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Great. I hope you keep your promise to change billing address and phone number for my batches before shipping. I dont see a batch from us changed its status so its not too late yet. I took your word and stopped going you on the nerves by phone. |
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ionstorm
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August 16, 2013, 09:21:37 PM |
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Yifu, please address the compensation issue. Talk to us. You can put things right, and put an end to the hate.
^ THIS. Yifu, please consider rather than refund hooking us up with some free gen1/gen2 chips, if they are gen2 and I get some free chips to test a board, i'll surely consider ordering from Avalon again, if nothing is done, count me out as a future customer and count me in as being a spokesman against your company |
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Its About Sharing
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August 16, 2013, 09:25:33 PM |
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at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
That's more like it. With due respect, none of us should give a shit what is going out now. We should be asking if our chips were sold to the highest bidder. Yifu's silence is telling. |
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kano
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August 16, 2013, 09:26:50 PM |
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Sure, you can ask the government for help, but please realize that that is like asking the Mafia to fix your problem. It will get fixed, for sure, but in a way that will make all of us losers in the end. I suppose this is how the government grows in size indefinitely: by us inviting it to govern more and more of our affairs.
If the FEDs took down pirate there is no reason to think they will not pursue an $8M scam and get Yifu. In fact I think they will be highly motivated to so. Pirate was a US citizien, or? Yifu is not.. so it wouldn't be as easy... He lives in NY ... |
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