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Author Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff]  (Read 775809 times)
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December 13, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
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Doc, have you considered adding pps?

No time right now. Just trying to keep things running smooth at the moment.

Can anyone comment on what the addition of PPS would do to other miners who stay on PPLNS?  From my understanding, I tend to prefer PPLNS - it seems more sustainable and less risk to the pool.  I'm not quite sure I understand how pools work when both payout systems are present as an option.
I don't even know what PPS is let alone fully understand PPLNS other than it's supposed to make pay more fair since it's supposed to be based on he amount of work you do for the server.

PPS, pay per share. For people who don't mine constantly, and for a few hours at a time it is better.


So both mean fair pay...

PPS: Fair pay for say 12hr a day miners
PPLNS: Fair pay for always plugged in and running miners

Here's the thing though, how would adding PPS affect PPLNS ?

Shouldn't, right now there is only one pool that offers both pps & pplns. It would be nice to see another one too.

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December 13, 2013, 08:46:59 PM
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Doc, have you considered adding pps?

No time right now. Just trying to keep things running smooth at the moment.

Can anyone comment on what the addition of PPS would do to other miners who stay on PPLNS?  From my understanding, I tend to prefer PPLNS - it seems more sustainable and less risk to the pool.  I'm not quite sure I understand how pools work when both payout systems are present as an option.
I don't even know what PPS is let alone fully understand PPLNS other than it's supposed to make pay more fair since it's supposed to be based on he amount of work you do for the server.

PPS, pay per share. For people who don't mine constantly, and for a few hours at a time it is better.


So both mean fair pay...

PPS: Fair pay for say 12hr a day miners
PPLNS: Fair pay for always plugged in and running miners

Here's the thing though, how would adding PPS affect PPLNS ?

Shouldn't, right now there is only one pool that offers both pps & pplns. It would be nice to see another one too.
I guess what I'm more curious about is if both were added, does a user choose the scale they want or the server just kinda sense what the user is doing and applies either or.

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December 13, 2013, 08:50:24 PM
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Doc, have you considered adding pps?

No time right now. Just trying to keep things running smooth at the moment.

Can anyone comment on what the addition of PPS would do to other miners who stay on PPLNS?  From my understanding, I tend to prefer PPLNS - it seems more sustainable and less risk to the pool.  I'm not quite sure I understand how pools work when both payout systems are present as an option.
I don't even know what PPS is let alone fully understand PPLNS other than it's supposed to make pay more fair since it's supposed to be based on he amount of work you do for the server.

PPS, pay per share. For people who don't mine constantly, and for a few hours at a time it is better.


So both mean fair pay...

PPS: Fair pay for say 12hr a day miners
PPLNS: Fair pay for always plugged in and running miners

Here's the thing though, how would adding PPS affect PPLNS ?

Shouldn't, right now there is only one pool that offers both pps & pplns. It would be nice to see another one too.
I guess what I'm more curious about is if both were added, does a user choose the scale they want or the server just kinda sense what the user is doing and applies either or.

You would choose whether you want pplns or pps, at least that is how it is on the other pool.

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December 13, 2013, 11:15:51 PM
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Doc Haribo, has anyone else mentioned about some Bitminter blocks found on Blockchain not crediting/showing up on Stats page over the last few days?  I noticed several yesterday and just now noticed https://blockchain.info/block-index/447319/0000000000000004905185711720b267a133d5b2ed9b0e0e0d35ca1e5e4f429b {274733 (Main Chain)}didn't show up or credit but like 5 minutes later block 274737 was found and showed up just fine.

What's going on here as these are all showing up as being found by "Bitminter" on Blockchain but only some are showing up on the Bitminter Stats.  Hopefully just something simple i'm overlooking.  Thanks.

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December 14, 2013, 12:10:38 AM
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Doc Haribo, has anyone else mentioned about some Bitminter blocks found on Blockchain not crediting/showing up on Stats page over the last few days?  I noticed several yesterday and just now noticed https://blockchain.info/block-index/447319/0000000000000004905185711720b267a133d5b2ed9b0e0e0d35ca1e5e4f429b {274733 (Main Chain)}didn't show up or credit but like 5 minutes later block 274737 was found and showed up just fine.

What's going on here as these are all showing up as being found by "Bitminter" on Blockchain but only some are showing up on the Bitminter Stats.  Hopefully just something simple i'm overlooking.  Thanks.

This has been touched on a few times earlier in the thread.

Long story short:  Blockchain is making a guess and getting it wrong.  It is not authoritative.  I think they clarified this by changing it to "Relayed By".  So it's not actually saying it was found by Bitminter.
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December 14, 2013, 02:35:49 AM
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Doc Haribo, has anyone else mentioned about some Bitminter blocks found on Blockchain not crediting/showing up on Stats page over the last few days?  I noticed several yesterday and just now noticed https://blockchain.info/block-index/447319/0000000000000004905185711720b267a133d5b2ed9b0e0e0d35ca1e5e4f429b {274733 (Main Chain)}didn't show up or credit but like 5 minutes later block 274737 was found and showed up just fine.

What's going on here as these are all showing up as being found by "Bitminter" on Blockchain but only some are showing up on the Bitminter Stats.  Hopefully just something simple i'm overlooking.  Thanks.

This has been touched on a few times earlier in the thread.

Long story short:  Blockchain is making a guess and getting it wrong.  It is not authoritative.  I think they clarified this by changing it to "Relayed By".  So it's not actually saying it was found by Bitminter.

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December 14, 2013, 01:53:25 PM
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Could someone explain why I'm seeing around 1.24% rejected proofs of work on the live stats page?  What causes this and what can I do to reduce this number?

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December 14, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
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Could someone explain why I'm seeing around 1.24% rejected proofs of work on the live stats page?  What causes this and what can I do to reduce this number?

The reject ratio is always high just after we find a block. It starts at 100% rejects the instant after the block is found, but quickly drops after that.

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December 14, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
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Mine seems to be going up, not down. I'm showing 1.86% now. Up from 1.24% about an hour ago.

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December 14, 2013, 09:49:50 PM
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Is it me or is Bitminter getting more stale blocks than other pools? Lately about 2-4% of all blocks found on Bitminter are stales. I checked Eligius and I see no stales at all there in the past couple of weeks. Maybe I should switch pools but I like Bitminter more and its payout system. Undecided

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December 14, 2013, 10:16:39 PM
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This is someone elses image.



Would you consider adding a decimal point and the comma number_format() ?

So as of now WTFATF has a rate of 22762... what I'm asking is to change the display so it might look like this: 22,762.8

Only thing would be needing to widen the images about 10 - 15px or so.

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December 14, 2013, 10:32:26 PM
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Is it me or is Bitminter getting more stale blocks than other pools?

It's because other pools don't show stale blocks, only orphaned blocks.

Would you consider adding a decimal point and the comma number_format() ?

So as of now WTFATF has a rate of 22762... what I'm asking is to change the display so it might look like this: 22,762.8

Yeah, or maybe display TH/s or GH/s depending on your speed, like with Bitminter client.

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December 15, 2013, 01:19:17 AM
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Would you consider adding a decimal point and the comma number_format() ?

So as of now WTFATF has a rate of 22762... what I'm asking is to change the display so it might look like this: 22,762.8

Yeah, or maybe display TH/s or GH/s depending on your speed, like with Bitminter client.

I think it's fine the way it is now in the sense of th/gh.

I mean using WFATF again, from what your talkin about if I'm guessing right would either be:

22.76 TH/s or 762 GH/s.

I kinda like the way it is now displaying the whole number, with the exception to my suggestion of adding the comma and single decimal point so it would be 22,762.8... assumin his decimal point would be an 8.

Edit: Actually, thinking more on your idea would be kind of neat... would keep images the same size they are now, the text in the image would need to change accordingly though.

Since right now it's hardcoded to Ghps.

So if your at or above 1,000 it would be Thps, hell, just for shits n giggles you could even factore in Phps.

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December 16, 2013, 01:37:55 AM
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I have .004 in my BTC balance, and 0 in NMC. How can I request a manual payout of the balance as I don't see myself using bitminter in the foreseeable future right now.

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December 16, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
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I have .004 in my BTC balance, and 0 in NMC. How can I request a manual payout of the balance as I don't see myself using bitminter in the foreseeable future right now.

Manual cash is out coming soon.

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December 16, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
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Manual cash is out coming soon.
Great as I encounter the same problem. Two weeks ago mining support for my CPU was halted. Now only left with a relatively old GeForce card (still 20 times the speed of the old 2-core CPU).
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December 17, 2013, 05:29:21 AM
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Doc,

I have one client machine that runs constantly between 125-135ghs and another machine that runs between 4-5ghs yet I never see anything above 125ghs combined through the web site. I usually see 110-115 and sometimes in the 90s.  Is there any explanation for this or am I missing something?

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December 17, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
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I have one client machine that runs constantly between 125-135ghs and another machine that runs between 4-5ghs yet I never see anything above 125ghs combined through the web site. I usually see 110-115 and sometimes in the 90s.  Is there any explanation for this or am I missing something?

Look at your average hashrates per shift. Those are more accurate since they are estimated for a whole shift, not just a couple minutes of mining.

https://bitminter.com/shifts

These hashrate estimates you see on the website only count accepted work. If you have a lot of rejected work and/or hardware errors (miscalculations) then that will affect the results.

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December 17, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
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Someone brought it up before and said that blockchain.info could be wrong, however, what's the official response from Doc when they report a block being found by Bitminter, but it doesn't get reported?  Block 275399 isn't showing in the block stats. https://blockchain.info/blocks/BitMinter

How does blockchain determine which pool solves the block?

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December 17, 2013, 06:33:18 PM
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I have .004 in my BTC balance, and 0 in NMC. How can I request a manual payout of the balance as I don't see myself using bitminter in the foreseeable future right now.

Manual cash is out coming soon.

I appriciate this also very much. So there is hope again for the payout of my balance.

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