Merit & new rank requirements

[LoyceMobile]

but since the history gets wiped from recent I don't tend to do that

See http://loyce.club/Merit/history/124876.html for your full Merit history.

[tranthidung]

Update:

ABSTRACT
Intra-day merits
- Median of intra-day merits over the period is 624;
- Minimum and maximum of intra-day merits (full dataset) are 295, and 13018, on 03/8/2019 and 24/1/2018, respectively.

Intra-week merits
- Median of intra-week merits is 4491;
- Minimum and maximum of intra-week merits are 3072 and 30960, in 2018w35, and 2018w4, respectively.

Outliers
- Intra-day merits: beyond 213 or 1053; and there are 34 outliers in total, only six of them occured in 2019.
- Intra-week merits: beyond 2435 or 6483. 12 weeks are outliers, in total; and there is only one outlier week occured in 2019, in 2019w2 at 6632.

Time series plots:

(1) Intra-day merits:
Full dataset:

Truncated dataset:

(2) Merits over days of week:
Outliers displayed as red circles.

Outliers non-displayed.

(3) Intra-week merits:

(4) Time series plot of median and interquartile range

(5) Weekly earned merits of top 100 merited profiles over 4 groups

(6) One year anniversary of enhanced merit system

For more details, please get them there:
Time Series Analysis on Distributed Merits in the forum (daily, weekly, monthly)
Interquartile range of intra-day merits with time series plot
One year anniversary of merit system
Weekly earned merits (median) of top 100 merited users (newest)
One year anniversary of enhanced merit system

[100bitcoin]

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

[suchmoon]

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

No. Why?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

Just have to assume you're asking a genuine question without any bad intentions. There isn't an officially list but  unofficially you can identify them through this thread; [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits. Merit sources are highlighted in bold letters. There could be few mistake as some merit source are yet to be identify while other smerit generous givers could be mistaken for merit sources nevertheless, the list is 99% accurate.

[100bitcoin]

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

No. Why?

Because, we have default trust list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust.

But, no such merit source list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Hence, I thought, if I am missing something.

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

Just have to assume you're asking a genuine question without any bad intentions. There isn't an officially list but  unofficially you can identify them through this thread; [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits. Merit sources are highlighted in bold letters. There could be few mistake as some merit source are yet to be identify while other smerit generous givers could be mistaken for merit sources nevertheless, the list is 99% accurate.

Thanks. Was aware of suchmoon, LoyceV, DarkStar_, OgNasty and a few others. But did not know that so many of them are unofficially identified.

[suchmoon]

Because, we have default trust list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust.

But, no such merit source list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Hence, I thought, if I am missing something.

I mean - why do you need it? What would you use it for?

[100bitcoin]

Because, we have default trust list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust.

But, no such merit source list here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Hence, I thought, if I am missing something.

I mean - why do you need it? What would you use it for?

Have not thought of any specific usage. But, so far, I have seen if theymos chose a group of users for whatever purpose, it is public. Forum moderators, the erstwhile default trust, users holding forum fund... all are public. This is probably the first time, there is no official list of people chosen by him. Hence, I was a bit surprised and wanted to confirm.

[fillippone]

There is an obvious reason why board administrators are public.
Trust lists are inherently public.
There is a good reason why forum funds custodian are public.
There are no reason why merit source list should be made public.

[Timelord2067]

Is there any way yet to know the list of merit sources?

No. Why?

Some identify themselves, others are identified by others. You could work out who some of them are if you applied yourself.

There are no reason why merit source list should be made public.

There is *one* reason - waste.

e.g. When said merit sources go on sprees splashing large numbers of merits to high ranking members such as in threads specifically designed to trash others.

[malevolent]

There are no reason why merit source list should be made public.

This is the reasoning:

I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Another reason I can think of against making the list public is it would make it easier to buy merits by contacting every one on the list and hoping at least one of them is willing to profit from their position.

[fillippone]

I said there are no reason why such a list would need to made public.

Of course there are reasons why this list need to be kept private! (Theymos argument and your one are two correct examples, but there might be others too).

Those are two different statements.
Sorry for nitpicking the logic.

[DdmrDdmr]

I haven’t posted on recent weekly merits per board for two months now, so here’s an update:

 

What I’m showing is merit distribution over the last 10 weeks (weeks 36 to 45), with all previous data aggregated (2018 and 2019 "compress"), in order to reduce the number of columns. Week 45 is still partial (lacking the weekend’s data).

I’ve highlighted in yellow some (not all) of the most significant changes over between the last few complete weeks:

-   Announcements (Altcoins) had an atypical peak on week 41.
-   Bitcoin boards picked-up on weeks 41 and 42 quite a bit, but have fallen back to previous week’s numbers (and even lower on week 44).
-   German Local board has dropped by around 60% over the last 4 weeks (compared to previous 4 weeks).
-   Turkish Local board has improved, more than doubling over the past 4 weeks in comparison to prior weeks.
-   By art of magic, Meta has improved nearly threefold over the past weeks (and may have drawn some attention away from Bitcoin boards).

[phillymogul]

This merit system seems out of balance with Member to Full Member. 
Why 10 to be Member but 100 to be Full Member, a 10X increase?

If this is true, Full Member to Sr Member should be 2400 merit, and similarly 4800 to Hero etc.

A more in line Merit from Member to Full would be around 20 - 25 IMO

[LoyceV]

A more in line Merit from Member to Full would be around 20 - 25 IMO

The Merit required for Full Member and higher is close to the required Activity. If anything is out of balance, is that Jr. Members and Members require less Merit.

[JayJuanGee]

A more in line Merit from Member to Full would be around 20 - 25 IMO

The Merit required for Full Member and higher is close the the required Activity. If anything is out of balance, is that Jr. Members and Members require less Merit.

Hahahaaha...

You are correct Loyce, and the whole point about striving to achieve "in line" merit system is ludicrous at best, at least in terms of considering the trajectory in terms of percentages.

Currently, there seems to be a decently low threshold for members to get started in achieving some kind of rank by having low thresholds to get started.  They get some skin in the game by achieving some rank relatively quickly, as long as someone finds enough value in their post(s) to send some smerit love in their direction, but yeah as a percentage those values are pretty great between member and full member, even while there should seem to be no real desire to line up the percentages because then, as you imply either the earlier ranking would have to become more difficult, even while phillymogul seems to be suggesting that upper ranking could be made easier.

In other words, even though percentage thinking might make sense in terms of how you allocate the value of your bitcoins versus shitcoins versus other investments, and in might make sense in terms of considering BTC price movements, it makes a lot less sense in terms of ranking up, so in that regard the current ranking up system does seem to strike a decently aligned balance to allow contributory members to rank up to regular member status fairly quickly but then necessitate the garnering of a lot more merits, in substantive terms (even though not really in percentages) in order to achieve the higher ranks.

[hd49728]

A more in line Merit from Member to Full would be around 20 - 25 IMO

I don't offend our opinion but if the merit requirements for the Full member rank is 20 or 25, full members are not too different than Members.
Non-difference in their post quality compared to closest lower rank (the Member rank) and there are more Full member users.

I assume with 100-required merits for Full member rank, there are 1000 self-made Full members.
Then, if the requirement reduces to 25 merits (as you wanted), there are likely 4000 self-made Full members.
Those figures above are only assumed, not real ones but from the assumption and results you can see your odds to be accepted in campaigns (4000 applicants rather than only 1000 applicants) will be decreased roughly four times with 25-required merits for the Full member rank. Do you want it?

[tranthidung]

Lots of spikes in daily and weekly merits (due to the Art contest's effects), so I come back to this thread.

What an impressive last week!

The last week (2019w46) is the third highest week since the merit system released. It stays only behind the first two weeks when the forum saw the merit system.

Code:

. list merit week if merit >= 6373 | merit <= 2645

     +-----------------+
     | merit      week |
     |-----------------|
  1. | 30960    2018w4 |
  2. | 19979    2018w5 |
  3. | 14251   2019w46 |
  4. | 13313    2018w6 |
  5. | 11745    2018w7 |
     |-----------------|
  6. |  8833    2018w9 |
  7. |  8767    2018w8 |
  8. |  7837   2018w38 |
  9. |  7317   2018w11 |
 10. |  7261   2018w10 |
     |-----------------|
 11. |  6952   2018w12 |
 12. |  6744   2018w13 |
 13. |  6632    2019w2 |
 14. |  6423   2018w14 |
     +-----------------+

Intra-day merits:
Full and truncated datasets, respectively:

Merits over days of week:
As you can see, most of the outliers (especially very extreme ones) over days come from the last week.
Outliers displayed (in red circles) and non-displayed, respectively.

Interquartile range of intra-day merits

Intra-week merits:

The Art contest's effects:

For details, please see: tranthidung's statistical threads on bitcointalk

[fillippone]

Well actually there are three factors that weighed in the last couple of weeks.

I would say we can list them in decreasing order of importance:

• The art thread. One-off event, with theymos creating merits out of the thin air (sort of QE in the merit economy) to reward participants.
• New merit sources, promoted and replacing inactive merit sources
• 175% increase in the monthly allowance of the old merit sources, compared to the average held in the past 6 months

So perhaps the increase may not be so temporary (although not at these levels, of course).

[tranthidung]

Most of last distributed merits come from theymos. This figure is for the last 30 days.

9886: theymos

You scanned it too but those figures are not final ones.

Merit Spree I: 3399
Merit Spree II: 3813
Merit Spree III: 1236
Total merits in the art contest: 9029
78 forum pages scanned.

Weekly rank is below. So, most of 14251 merits distributed last 7 days come from theymos.

Code:

. list weeklyrank merit week, abb(30)

     +------------------------------+
     | weeklyrank   merit      week |
     |------------------------------|
  1. |          1   30960    2018w4 |
  2. |          2   19979    2018w5 |
  3. |          3   14251   2019w46 |
  4. |          4   13313    2018w6 |
  5. |          5   11745    2018w7 |
     |------------------------------|
  6. |          6    8833    2018w9 |
  7. |          7    8767    2018w8 |
  8. |          8    7837   2018w38 |
  9. |          9    7317   2018w11 |
 10. |         10    7261   2018w10 |
     |------------------------------|
 11. |         11    6952   2018w12 |
 12. |         12    6744   2018w13 |
 13. |         13    6632    2019w2 |
 14. |         14    6423   2018w14 |
 15. |         15    6130   2019w13 |
     |------------------------------|
 16. |         16    5644   2018w37 |
 17. |         17    5542   2019w42 |
 18. |         18    5494   2018w15 |
 19. |         19    5454   2019w19 |
 20. |         20    5354   2019w24 |
     |------------------------------|
 21. |         21    5317    2019w3 |
 22. |         22    5271   2019w15 |
 23. |         23    5214   2019w20 |
 24. |         24    4975   2019w43 |
 25. |         25    4965   2018w18 |
     |------------------------------|
 26. |         26    4929   2018w25 |
 27. |         27    4913   2019w10 |
 28. |         28    4829   2018w42 |
 29. |         29    4803    2019w1 |
 30. |         30    4766   2018w19 |
     |------------------------------|
 31. |         31    4764   2019w18 |
 32. |         32    4742   2018w16 |
 33. |         33    4735   2019w45 |
 34. |         34    4730   2019w44 |
 35. |         35    4726   2019w25 |
     |------------------------------|
 36. |         36    4688   2019w16 |
 37. |         37    4687   2019w23 |
 38. |         38    4667    2019w4 |
 39. |         39    4638    2019w9 |
 40. |         40    4612   2018w17 |
     |------------------------------|
 41. |         41    4609   2019w12 |
 42. |         42    4580   2019w21 |
 43. |         43    4575   2018w47 |
 44. |         44    4565   2019w41 |
 45. |         45    4538   2018w23 |
     |------------------------------|
 46. |         46    4526   2019w14 |
 47. |         47    4525   2018w45 |
 48. |         48    4521    2019w8 |
 49. |         49    4520   2019w38 |
 50. |         50    4491    2019w5 |
     |------------------------------|
 51. |         51    4465   2018w26 |
 52. |         52    4448   2019w17 |
 53. |         53    4445   2019w22 |
 54. |         54    4395   2018w39 |
 55. |         55    4367   2019w26 |
     |------------------------------|
 56. |         56    4357   2019w40 |
 57. |         57    4353   2018w20 |
 58. |         58    4332    2019w6 |
 59. |         59    4326   2019w11 |
 60. |         60    4318   2019w39 |
     |------------------------------|
 61. |         61    4310   2018w40 |
 62. |         62    4278   2018w27 |
 63. |         63    4277   2019w29 |
 64. |         64    4247   2018w28 |
 65. |         65    4236   2019w33 |
     |------------------------------|
 66. |         66    4225   2019w27 |
 67. |         67    4221    2019w7 |
 68. |         68    4194   2018w22 |
 69. |         69    4176   2019w30 |
 70. |         70    4167   2018w29 |
     |------------------------------|
 71. |         71    4119   2019w28 |
 72. |         72    4043   2019w37 |
 73. |         73    4011   2018w32 |
 74. |         74    3953   2018w43 |
 75. |         75    3864   2018w21 |
     |------------------------------|
 76. |         76    3863   2018w31 |
 77. |         77    3839   2018w24 |
 78. |         78    3816   2018w41 |
 79. |         79    3809   2019w36 |
 80. |         80    3805   2018w50 |
     |------------------------------|
 81. |         81    3805   2018w34 |
 82. |         82    3769   2018w51 |
 83. |         83    3765   2018w48 |
 84. |         84    3747   2018w46 |
 85. |         85    3661   2018w30 |
     |------------------------------|
 86. |         86    3631   2018w33 |
 87. |         87    3622   2019w34 |
 88. |         88    3590   2018w36 |
 89. |         89    3571   2018w49 |
 90. |         90    3549   2019w31 |
     |------------------------------|
 91. |         91    3540   2019w35 |
 92. |         92    3347   2018w44 |
 93. |         93    3338   2018w52 |
 94. |         94    3207   2019w32 |
 95. |         95    3072   2018w35 |
     +------------------------------+

Oops! I was wrong with above prediction.

The truth is here:

To sum up:

In 2019w46

• Total distributed merits: 14251
• Total merits sent by theymos: 1071
• Median of weekly merits before the last week: 4521

A raw caculation from merits (with all possible effects from Art contest - excludes theymos' sent-merits, new merit sources, newly increased sMerits allocation, and the others), we have:

Code:

. di 14251-1071-4521
8659

Unbelievable!

Update:

• The forum users distributed 8659 merits more what they usually did in most of half previous weeks at 4521 (the median of weekly merits).
• There is nearly 292% increase in the total merits last week, compares to median of weekly merits (before 2019w46) at 4521.