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September 22, 2018, 02:30:57 AM
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the new merit system will change all forum. Some members will find the way to buy merits. Some projects will decrease the requirement of bounty campains. I don't think it will make our forum better. I see some high rank members post bad comments. Their comments are low quality. They post for only posting purpose. You guys should build the automatic merit system. It can use AI to assess comments and projects.
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September 22, 2018, 02:40:54 AM
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The forum looks much cleaner when Newbies are unable to wear signatures, and forum users have to get 1 merit at least to be ranked up to Junior Member rank beside satisfying postcounts.
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September 22, 2018, 06:13:42 AM
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Quote from: cryptofarid10

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I like your thread but hate to see such aggorant higher ranks like your images shown.
However, I support the ideas of Theymos to require at least 1 merit to become a Junior member.
Furthermore, restricting ability to wear signature to only Junior rank and above is amazing, which is much helpful to stop spammers walking around the forum and showing their shits to earn money thinking they'll earn money.

I fixed your last sentence!  Wink
Managers who were accepting newbies either wouldn't ever pay or they'd pay in a 0-value altcoin. Probably the same is true for Jr. Members too.
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September 22, 2018, 07:54:27 AM
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September 22, 2018, 08:11:49 AM
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I wonder why i still have 0 spendable merits? It is showing 0 since 2 months back, don't we get merits with time to send it to good posters?
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September 22, 2018, 08:13:43 AM
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No only merit sources receive a new allocation after a given period of time.

Other members receive .5 sMerit for every merit they receive. So next time you get 2 merits you can award one yourself.

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September 22, 2018, 08:15:41 AM
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No only merit sources receive a new allocation after a given period of time.

Other members receive .5 sMerit for every merit they receive. So next time you get 2 merits you can award one yourself.
ahh that is a bad system. But how can some legendary members have 100+ spendable merits? they have only 1000 Merits and that too they got it automatically from activity as soon as we shifted to merit system.
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September 22, 2018, 10:21:53 AM
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Those user who have sMerit and don't send me.... How I upgrade my rank.!

Those, who have sMerit please come on....


Begging for merit sounds like:



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September 22, 2018, 11:28:57 AM
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ahh that is a bad system. But how can some legendary members have 100+ spendable merits? they have only 1000 Merits and that too they got it automatically from activity as soon as we shifted to merit system.

Not a bad system it has been fairly effective and was able to be used as a tool recently to combat spam. The real tell moving forward is not the total amount of merit but the amount of merit received.

Those legendary you speak of would likely still have their initial smerit received when the system started every rank member and above received some I think. Legendary accounts I think had 200 at the beginning.

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September 22, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
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1 Merit for Jr. Member is still not enough. We need at least 5.

An account created 20 mins ago is already writing about the merit, why don't you post with your main account.
Whatever, yes we need more merit required to rank up, or a decay every few weeks. Probably the 1st is better.


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September 22, 2018, 08:38:15 PM
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Those user who have sMerit and don't send me.... How I upgrade my rank.!

Those, who have sMerit please come on....


Begging for merit sounds like:




If begging for merit is begging for $$$ for weed then believe me follow weeders won't mind to spare some $$$ for them, For me I think begging for merit is like a little child without teeth begging for carrot or piece of dry meat.
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September 23, 2018, 09:15:04 AM
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I wonder why i still have 0 spendable merits? It is showing 0 since 2 months back, don't we get merits with time to send it to good posters?
You got merit when the merit system was automatic. You didn't get any merit from anyone on your posts. For this you got only 5 spendable merits. To get spendable merits try to make quality posts and if you're expert on something you can share your knowledge which will bring you merits. But you need to get minimum 2 merits. For every Merit you receive you will have 0.5 spendable merit to reward posts as you see fit. So when you get 2 merit you will get 1 spendable merit..

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September 23, 2018, 11:00:16 AM
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One of the good instant effects of new rank requirements which need 1 merit for Junior member rank is:
There are more Junior Members with 1 merit (earned recently) appeared in the forum than ever before.
The new requirements boosted the pace of merit exchange, and 1 merit won't solve any problem.

Of course, we all need real data to go to conclusion, but this one is what I imagine on short-term effects of new rank requirements.

For long-term aspect, as someone discussed above, 1 merit won't be able to stop spamming endemic in the forum.
It is extremely easy to get 1 merit and/ or buy it. I don't think anyone can go to any judgement on only 1 merit point, such as merit exchange, merit abusement. It does not enough to go to judgement.

Anyway, thanks @Theymos for launching it because in short-term, my eyeballs will not be annoyed with trashes from lower-ranked spammers.

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September 23, 2018, 11:31:08 AM
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Of course, we all need real data to go to conclusion, but this one is what I imagine on short-term effects of new rank requirements.

Here, real data by the data-master DdmrDdmr!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034149.0

More merits started to be given out thanks to new Merit Sources, as an example I got 30 merits just in September! 20 or 18 of them was after more merit sources were added, so at least this change seems to have helped to put some fuel on the engine! Previous data provided by DdmrDdmr showed that giving merit had slowed down dramatically.

The other change which you mentioned (Jr. Members needing 1 merit) was probably too low of an entry point and if you think of how many newbies started to beg (in a spam-y way) I'm not sure there was a big change, still it was on the right track I believe.
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September 23, 2018, 12:50:53 PM
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September 23, 2018, 10:40:54 PM
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The start of new ERA!

Wow, it doubled Smiley merit to tha moooon Cheesy
Seriously, it was a big change glad to see the impact now Smiley

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September 24, 2018, 08:51:34 AM
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Participate in discussions over the last time observed that the quality of messages from newcomers markedly increased.Many newcomers received their first merit smart and correct thoughts. which is definitely the benefit of innovation.
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September 24, 2018, 09:00:30 AM
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1 Merit for Jr. Member is still not enough. We need at least 5.

An account created 20 mins ago is already writing about the merit, why don't you post with your main account.
Whatever, yes we need more merit required to rank up, or a decay every few weeks. Probably the 1st is better.

1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

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September 24, 2018, 10:45:54 AM
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1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

Almost at 100 merit here! Grin It's possible that I'll be able to hit 100 after exactly one year, starting from 0.

I was never a shitposter but I remember that when I first found out about the Merit system (I was a newbie when it was introduced) for the first few months I was thinking how I'd make my posts better to earn merits. Later on I stopped thinking about the merits and just posted whenever I had some free time to surf the forums, but the principals had stayed... that way of posting got me merits slowly but thanks to the last changes I feel the speed of earning is higher.

My advice to legit members is to focus on threads with subjects they are familiar with and do their best to give constructive and clear answers to people who ask questions there.
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September 24, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
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Wow, it doubled Smiley merit to tha moooon Cheesy
Seriously, it was a big change glad to see the impact now Smiley

Sadly, in my opinion, this is a pumped result.
On this week a lot of accounts had 1 merit to rank up from sources, friends and abusers. Next week the number it will go down around 5k.



1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

It can be ok, but with 5 we have an easier task for finding abusers and sellers.


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