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September 14, 2018, 12:12:30 PM
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such proposal seems that it would be a bit of a programming nightmare.  I am NOT a programer

No this won't be a nightmare at all, It's about just adding a few new variables and some if-else statements. Shouldn't take more than a week to develop this. But since theymos is busy this may take a while to build. Sigh! Only if community development was allowed.

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September 16, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
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There was a whole thread about that topic. Local subforums are, indeed, the sub-sections where most merit points are awarded. However, I think you'll only get some there if you speak the language well (or if you engage in illegal actions like merit trading).

Altcoin subforums are the second section regarding merit points, but the merit distribution there is very concentrated on what you already found out - original postings in ICO ANNs (which may be "unofficial" parts of bounty campaigns and thus, in reality, "illegal").

The reason that other altcoin posts are not likely to be awarded is simple: There is much spam there. I tried for some weeks to merit posters in the Altcoin Discussion forum that brought up some good contents, but it was so difficult to find good posts that I got bored and gave up. I think merit sources are also not likely to search the few pearls in the amount of trash there.

<…>Just out of curiosity: are there sub forums that usually there’s more merit exchange? I’m more often on the announcements for altcoins and usually only OPs get merit there.

Maybe I should explore more the other places of bitcointalk. Including local language communities. I barely gonto the portuguese and spanish sections.
As @d5000 mentioned above, Local Boards on aggregate constitute the most merited area, but we should consider that we’re aggregating 21 Local Boards here... That’s a large mass we’re aggregating (half of the subsections on all Bitcointalk). There are some local boards which from the overall perspective may seem really merited (Russian, Turkish and Indonesian are amongst the most), but this should be seen as relative to the number of posts on these boards, since the number of total merits on these boards does not reflect this and may be misleading.

Take a look at a post I created not too long ago: Bitcointalk – Posts per Day - evolution during past six months. Specifically checkout a section called "4. Merits per post Ratio". There you will see a column called "Merit/post" which tell us just that. The ratio of each individual local boards is not that great, and certainly does not standout.

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definitely will start explore more the other sides of bitcointalk and contribute.
as DdmrDdmr stated on the linked article: maybe local forums won't be the best place if I'm aiming to earn more merits

according to this image posted

most merits per point are given on the following subjects (ordered):

Serious Discussion
Development and technical discussion
Meta
Bitcoin Technical support

(on the month of june, but with simmilar data to the last 6 months before it (first semester of 2018)

Is there a way to have a useful article for the community? I always try to use my knowledge to create value for the community but I have not been praised and granted a certificate of merit

definitely there is, just try to share valuable information.
for example:
this is my first post that got merited EVER, even though I made quality posts before.

Good Bitcoin Articles (more than 350 articles organized by topics)

it's a gathering of several usefull bitcointalk articles and can definitely be usefull for begginers

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50 sMerits which can be distributed to only Newbies
50 sMerits which can be distributed to only Jr.Members and so on.

This should stop the people who are 'crying' over not receiving enough merit and pointing fingers towards bias distribution. I haven't gone through this thread, This may have been suggested before if it is I will delete this post right away.

definitely a good idea and probably would spread the merits in a more fair way!
totally agree with it

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September 17, 2018, 06:13:27 AM
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Within the past day or so, the number of merit sources increased from 84 to 120, and the number of smerits per 30 days is 23,045
 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Is that about 3,000 per month increase in smerits that are possible to be distributed per 30 days?  I cannot find the old number, but wasn't the old 30 day smerit amount around 20k per 30 days?

We cannot see which merit sources were added or what changes were made to the previously designated 84 merit sources, but we might see whether the most recent addition of smerits (and merit sources - around 36 new members serving as merit sources) make any difference to the amount of smerits that get spent on a monthly basis.

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

Put BTC here: 35EVP8EePt8dyvKHaB7bXaRmKLm22YgRCA

How much alt coin diversification is necessary? if you are investing in Bitcoin, then perhaps 0%?
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Within the past day or so, the number of merit sources increased from 84 to 120, and the number of smerits per 30 days is 23,045
 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Is that about 3,000 per month increase in smerits that are possible to be distributed per 30 days?  I cannot find the old number, but wasn't the old 30 day smerit amount around 20k per 30 days?

We cannot see which merit sources were added or what changes were made to the previously designated 84 merit sources, but we might see whether the most recent addition of smerits (and merit sources - around 36 new members serving as merit sources) make any difference to the amount of smerits that get spent on a monthly basis.


A fast search in google seems to confirm it was 19500:
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There are 84 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 19500 sMerit per 30 days  

https://www.google.com/search?ei=skmfW97iB4OorgSJ8J3ADg&q=%2284+merit+sources+with+a+total+merit+generation+of+up+to%22&oq=%2284+merit+sources+with+a+total+merit+generation+of+up+to%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2396.2396.0.2942.1.1.0.0.0.0.67.67.1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.ZF4gQ6sbI8o



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September 17, 2018, 06:52:22 AM
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Is that about 3,000 per month increase in smerits that are possible to be distributed per 30 days?
Yes (3,545 to be exact).

On average, merit sources(now) have less sMerit compared to what the average was prior to the upgrade/additions:

19,500/84 sources= 232.14 sMerits
23,045/120 sources= 192.04 sMerits

Based on the following comment, it's safe to say that "recently added merit sources(36), have less sMerits compared to those 84 sources":

One thing that wasn't mentioned is that some existing merit sources seem to have gotten a source size increase as well, so there should be much more merit flowing.

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September 17, 2018, 06:56:14 AM
Last edit: September 17, 2018, 07:12:29 AM by Jrashid
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I yesterday was Jr.Newbie

There is no rank named Jr.Newbie  Grin

today became a Newbie


Jr Member is now required to have 1 merit.
Learn more- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0

You can only rank up to Jr member if you get 1 merit. Also, newbies are restricted to wear signature and personal text now.
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September 17, 2018, 07:16:50 AM
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tell me please what happened I yesterday was Jr.Newbie and today became a Newbie


Jr Member is now required to have 1 merit.
Learn more- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0

You can only rank up to Jr member if you get 1 merit. Also, newbies are restricted to wear signature and personal text now.

there is no such possibility it is not necessary to lie

(( Due to excessive garbage-posting, you now need 1 merit to be a Jr Member. All existing Jr Members who didn't meet the requirement were demoted. Also, newbies can no longer set any signature or personal text. ))


First, why do you believe it is necessary for you to make your points with bold and Red text? 

Second, you seem to be attempting to address points that theymos made in the thread that Jrashid quoted.  Why not raise those points there, and perhaps make them in a bit more reasonable and substantiated way?  If you yell with bold and red, then it is not likely that anyone is going ot want to merit your posts or to give you any credibility, and perhaps just label you as the kind of scammer and spammer that does not deserve to rank up.

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

Put BTC here: 35EVP8EePt8dyvKHaB7bXaRmKLm22YgRCA

How much alt coin diversification is necessary? if you are investing in Bitcoin, then perhaps 0%?
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September 17, 2018, 07:51:35 AM
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Glad to see this merit requirement for Jr. Members has finally been put in place. Good job, theymos! Smiley

I'm curious to see if this will kill the spam in the infested Bitcoin & Altcoin Discussion forum sections since Newbies cannot display any signatures thus rendering their posts useless to bounty campaigns.
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September 17, 2018, 08:19:29 AM
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On average, merit sources(now) have less sMerit compared to what the average was prior to the upgrade/additions:

19,500/84 sources= 232.14 sMerits
23,045/120 sources= 192.04 sMerits
That makes sense: some of the old sources have very high amounts, but most send much less than the average. In the last 30 days:
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    485: chimk
    399: Foxpup
    301: dbshck
    244: Vod
    234: hilariousetc
    231: qwk
    198: Micio
    196: LoyceV
    180: TMAN
    162: Welsh
    152: DarkStar_
    140: EFS
    131: Halab
    127: Jet Cash
    115: JayJuanGee
    113: BobLawblaw
    110: MaRSe
    97: LFC_Bitcoin
    95: DdmrDdmr
    92: bones261
    92: frodocooper
    90: OgNasty
    88: theymos
    87: paxmao
    83: hilariousandco
    75: Moloch
    71: teramit
    68: theymos_away
    67: iCEBREAKER
    63: nizamcc
    63: _javi_
    60: micgoossens
    56: Vlad2Vlad
    55: esmanthra
    54: Piggy
    54: vapourminer
    53: TrollCoins
    52: ETFbitcoin
    51: Gyrsur
    51: xtraelv
    51: o_e_l_e_o
    51: Matthias9515
    51: BitNow
    50: RegulusHr
    50: tomsmith26
    50: SebastianJu
    50: Jasad
    50: bumbacoin
    50: Johnny00

If my counting is correct, my source Merit went up twice until now. It makes sense to start with a relatively low amount, and increase if if the Merit source proves to distribute them properly.

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September 17, 2018, 09:05:56 AM
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As you may know, most of us are newbie in this field.
So we don't have too much experience to create some quality posts. We will try to contribute to the forum in our capacity. Wish you simphethise!

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As you may know, most of us are newbie in this field.
So we don't have too much experience to create some quality posts. We will try to contribute to the forum in our capacity. Wish you simphethise!
Try to grow. Because people can all.Nothing can be done, without not effort.LoyceV, JayJuanGee, SFR10, they also had a small member one day.But they are trying hard. So they got bigger members today.You also try it,I hope you get Merit too.

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Just noticed the new system, I've demoted to the newbie account too but I think this rule was much needed to countermeasure the excessive spams happening around.
I don't spam post and anyone can check that out.  😭
Feeling kind of sad but hey sacrifices are also needed for greater good and purification of this forum ❤️
Another thing I would like to add, you didn't take any measure to stop people from selling higher ranked accounts.
Don't you think there should be a rule for that too.?
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September 17, 2018, 11:08:01 AM
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Just noticed the new system, I've demoted to the newbie account too but I think this rule was much needed to countermeasure the excessive spams happening around.
I don't spam post and anyone can check that out.  😭
Feeling kind of sad but hey sacrifices are also needed for greater good and purification of this forum ❤️
Your posts are as bad as the average spammer in this forum. Your whole post history consists of redundant posts (which are basically just a rephrasing of things that already have been said multiple times in the 30+ pages before yours) that don’t add anything to the discussion. I would never merit any of your last posts.

You are not making any sacrifices... You are part of the problem we are trying to solve.

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Just noticed the new system, I've demoted to the newbie account too but I think this rule was much needed to countermeasure the excessive spams happening around.
I don't spam post and anyone can check that out.  😭
Feeling kind of sad but hey sacrifices are also needed for greater good and purification of this forum ❤️
Your posts are as bad as the average spammer in this forum. Your whole post history consists of redundant posts (which are basically just a rephrasing of things that already have been said multiple times in the 30+ pages before yours) that don’t add anything to the discussion. I would never merit any of your last posts.

You are not making any sacrifices... You are part of the problem we are trying to solve.


I'm not bothered that I've been demoted, and I hope I'll make my way to some rank someday. And the point is I'm not begging for any merits anyway, you can keep your precious merits.

What  bothers me that some of the higher ranked members like you who got into the game early when there was no restrictions and now selling their accounts for money.( I'm not saying you're selling though.)
 I hope they'll implement something to stop this too.
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I'm not bothered that I've been demoted, and I hope I'll make my way to some rank someday.

What  bothers me that some of the higher ranked members like you who got into the game early when there was no restrictions and now selling their accounts for money.( I'm not saying you're selling though.)
 I hope they'll implement something to stop this too.
Why are you bothered about this? How does this make you more or less of a spammer? Start worrying about making real useful posts instead of disguised shitposts and not about other people trying to bypass the merit limitations.

I may have “gotten to the game early”, but that’s because I joined this forum cuz of Bitcoin and not to join bounties and make money. Actually, I’ve already received more than 250 merits since the system was introduced, which doesn’t make me better than anyone, but someone who actually has a brain and tries to do something instead of complaining all day while writing a lot of bs.

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What  bothers me that some of the higher ranked members like you who got into the game early when there was no restrictions and now selling their accounts for money.( I'm not saying you're selling though.)
 I hope they'll implement something to stop this too.

So you are accusing TryNinja and all the other high ranked members of selling their accounts? Well, you certainly know how to win friends and influence people (Dale Carnegie).

Oh, and there is something in place to discourage account sales: it's called getting painted red by default trust (DT) members. Once that happens hardly any bounty/sig campaign managers will accept you.

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September 17, 2018, 11:30:54 AM
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What  bothers me that some of the higher ranked members like you who got into the game early when there was no restrictions and now selling their accounts for money.( I'm not saying you're selling though.)
 I hope they'll implement something to stop this too.

So you are accusing TryNinja and all the other high ranked members of selling their accounts? Well, you certainly know how to win friends and influence people (Dale Carnegie).

Oh, and there is something in place to discourage account sales: it's called getting painted red by default trust (DT) members. Once that happens hardly any bounty/sig campaign managers will accept you.



Excuse me if I'm wrong, and you can see I didn't accuse him for selling, I've mentioned '' some ''.
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I'm not bothered that I've been demoted, and I hope I'll make my way to some rank someday.

What  bothers me that some of the higher ranked members like you who got into the game early when there was no restrictions and now selling their accounts for money.( I'm not saying you're selling though.)
 I hope they'll implement something to stop this too.
Why are you bothered about this? How does this make you more or less of a spammer? Start worrying about making real useful posts instead of disguised shitposts and not about other people trying to bypass the merit limitations.

I may have “gotten to the game early”, but that’s because I joined this forum cuz of Bitcoin and not to join bounties and make money. Actually, I’ve already received more than 250 merits since the system was introduced, which doesn’t make me better than anyone, but someone who actually has a brain and tries to do anything instead of complaining all day while writing a lot of bs.


So I can't voice my concern! Is that what you're trying to tell me? you're more concerned about how disguised shit post mine are but not a bit about the people selling accounts and scamming people.

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September 17, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
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I yesterday was Jr.Newbie

There is no rank named Jr.Newbie  Grin

today became a Newbie


Jr Member is now required to have 1 merit.
Learn more- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0

You can only rank up to Jr member if you get 1 merit. Also, newbies are restricted to wear signature and personal text now.

First of all I have always known this would happen and secondly I am not against the idea but my advice would be that each time a new account is created the account should be given access to a certain number of public thread where they can freely earn merit based on their post. The reason why I feel this would really be of assistance is because most newbies like me find it very defficult to identify a thread where merit can be rewarded for quality post. Once again I really think the merit system is a great idea

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