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October 07, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
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If I can have them [merit distribution over boards per week], I can plot more meaningful box plots.
I can scrape the data if you want, but I'd need to know exactly what format you want to use. So please show me an example of (made up) input data that would work for you.

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October 08, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
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Thank you for your help. I will give you a snapshot of dataset format days later.
I can scrape the data if you want, but I'd need to know exactly what format you want to use. So please show me an example of (made up) input data that would work for you.
I can give you that sort of plot like this one:
Plots of Merit distribution over boards, days of week, ranks, etc.
Those plots will help us have clearer overview about the means/ medians (mostly medians due to un-normal distributions) of merit distributed over boards,  days of week, ranks, months of year, etc.

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October 08, 2018, 02:18:36 PM
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But everytime it is more difficult to go up. May be a newbie has done the same amount of post and merit as a Full Member, but the full member become his degree when it was much easier to get a member. I am here since one year now and still a newbie, because I need a merit, and when I started the merit was not necessary to become a Junior. It is not logical.
You should look at your post history at first.
I spend a couple of secs to look at it, which mainly contains bounty reports and one-line threads.
Which sort of qualitied your threads are? Are your threads merit-deserved?
I think that you can easily answer the question by yourself, then recognise your issues.
Let's get started by stop complaining, starting to learn and be more constructive; only writing and publishing threads when you really have something meaningful to contribute.

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October 09, 2018, 11:24:30 AM
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@cryptofarid10
Why are you posting irrelevant image here? Is it something to do with merit system? Please stop posting off-topic.
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October 11, 2018, 02:29:24 AM
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This is so hard! I was following an old guide i guess. damn, But I guess it does mean it'll push people to post with quality... I'm just trying to get jr member to make my posts look better with images, proving to be a pain to get the 1 merit required, I thought it was 30 posts so trying to be as active as possible on my thread lol

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October 11, 2018, 03:53:38 AM
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This is so hard! I was following an old guide i guess. damn, But I guess it does mean it'll push people to post with quality... I'm just trying to get jr member to make my posts look better with images, proving to be a pain to get the 1 merit required, I thought it was 30 posts so trying to be as active as possible on my thread lol

I granted you a mercy merit. However, if you should create another altcoin in the future, you can purchase a Copper Membership. It's only a little over .002 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104
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October 11, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
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This is so hard! I was following an old guide i guess. damn, But I guess it does mean it'll push people to post with quality... I'm just trying to get jr member to make my posts look better with images, proving to be a pain to get the 1 merit required, I thought it was 30 posts so trying to be as active as possible on my thread lol

I granted you a mercy merit. However, if you should create another altcoin in the future, you can purchase a Copper Membership. It's only a little over .002 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104
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Appreciated Bones thank you!!

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October 12, 2018, 03:41:49 AM
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the majority of active contributors haven't received any merit. it like me.
Nice joke.
I have checked your post history and all without this one are bounty reports. You are helping lots of scammer to scam people.
It's really true that contributor like you haven't received any merits yet and will not get in future too.
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October 12, 2018, 08:59:46 AM
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Merit is related rather much to contributing to the forum and it’s community. Your posting history shows that you are focused solely on contributing to yourself, which is your prerogative, but goes in the opposite direction of merit. As you say, the vast majority of people are meritless, and they will stay that way for good unless they change their mind-set.

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October 12, 2018, 09:39:52 AM
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I think the vast majority of people are going to have a lot of trouble getting any merit. Thus far, the majority of active contributors haven't received any merit. it like me.

Jeez, what a dumbass - I suspected plagiarism and, yep... turns out this post is a direct copy of one that was made earlier in this thread:

I think the vast majority of people are going to have a lot of trouble getting any merit. Thus far, the majority of active contributors haven't received any merit.

buh-bye.
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October 12, 2018, 11:35:59 AM
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I think the vast majority of people are going to have a lot of trouble getting any merit. Thus far, the majority of active contributors haven't received any merit. it like me.

Jeez, what a dumbass - I suspected plagiarism and, yep... turns out this post is a direct copy of one that was made earlier in this thread:

I think the vast majority of people are going to have a lot of trouble getting any merit. Thus far, the majority of active contributors haven't received any merit.

buh-bye.

What gave him/her away? The fact that the first part of the sentence was in good English and the second part made no sense? Cheesy

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October 12, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
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Jeez, what a dumbass ~
buh-bye.
I wasn't sure if you reported him, so I did it just to be sure.

It kinda makes me want to Merit him, just to add to the disappointment when he gets banned Cheesy

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October 12, 2018, 12:03:18 PM
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After ~10 months I can say merit system (imho) is working fine, the level of spam lowered and more & more users are getting banned everyday (autoban at https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php).

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October 12, 2018, 12:21:20 PM
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What gave him/her away? The fact that the first part of the sentence was in good English and the second part made no sense? Cheesy

Oddly enough, the initial trigger was that the post seemed out of context with the current discussion - merit has been around for nearly 9 months so "predicting" that most people are going to have trouble getting merit is no prediction at all. It was only after I had already decided to see if the post was plagiarized that I noticed the disparity in grammar between the first two sentences and that barely literate phrase tacked on the end.



I wasn't sure if you reported him, so I did it just to be sure.

It kinda makes me want to Merit him, just to add to the disappointment when he gets banned Cheesy

Have no fear, I *always* report plagiarism when I find it! But more reports are always better, as I have recently learned.

I want the current rumor among the spamming-class that "meta is the place to get dem maritz" to turn into "meta is the place to get yourself banned."
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October 12, 2018, 04:31:26 PM
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It kinda makes me want to Merit him, just to add to the disappointment when he gets banned Cheesy

If I had a ton of sMerit to give away, I would absolutely do this. I also thought of this as I was scrolling through his/her comments. Maybe I should waste a sMerit on him/her anyways? Cheesy

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October 14, 2018, 06:26:58 AM
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In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member301
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.
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October 14, 2018, 06:41:12 AM
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how can i become a copper member
Find it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.msg45810047#msg45810047

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October 14, 2018, 10:54:17 PM
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Going down again!


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October 14, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
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Going down again!



I suspect many of the merit sources are going to start getting their smerit coffers filling up again on the 17th. The rewarded smerits should be on the rise, soon.
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October 15, 2018, 06:01:15 AM
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I suspect many of the merit sources are going to start getting their smerit coffers filling up again on the 17th. The rewarded smerits should be on the rise, soon.
I don't think the spike in Merit distribution came from merit sources, I think it largely came from merit abusers sending to their alt accounts (or buyers). So going down to normal is a good thing.
Also, source Merit is refilled 30 days after sending, not once per month only. I sent Merit 27 times on September 15, so I expect 27 (small) refills today.

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