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September 23, 2018, 09:15:04 AM
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I wonder why i still have 0 spendable merits? It is showing 0 since 2 months back, don't we get merits with time to send it to good posters?
You got merit when the merit system was automatic. You didn't get any merit from anyone on your posts. For this you got only 5 spendable merits. To get spendable merits try to make quality posts and if you're expert on something you can share your knowledge which will bring you merits. But you need to get minimum 2 merits. For every Merit you receive you will have 0.5 spendable merit to reward posts as you see fit. So when you get 2 merit you will get 1 spendable merit..

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September 23, 2018, 11:00:16 AM
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One of the good instant effects of new rank requirements which need 1 merit for Junior member rank is:
There are more Junior Members with 1 merit (earned recently) appeared in the forum than ever before.
The new requirements boosted the pace of merit exchange, and 1 merit won't solve any problem.

Of course, we all need real data to go to conclusion, but this one is what I imagine on short-term effects of new rank requirements.

For long-term aspect, as someone discussed above, 1 merit won't be able to stop spamming endemic in the forum.
It is extremely easy to get 1 merit and/ or buy it. I don't think anyone can go to any judgement on only 1 merit point, such as merit exchange, merit abusement. It does not enough to go to judgement.

Anyway, thanks @Theymos for launching it because in short-term, my eyeballs will not be annoyed with trashes from lower-ranked spammers.

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September 23, 2018, 11:31:08 AM
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Of course, we all need real data to go to conclusion, but this one is what I imagine on short-term effects of new rank requirements.

Here, real data by the data-master DdmrDdmr!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034149.0

More merits started to be given out thanks to new Merit Sources, as an example I got 30 merits just in September! 20 or 18 of them was after more merit sources were added, so at least this change seems to have helped to put some fuel on the engine! Previous data provided by DdmrDdmr showed that giving merit had slowed down dramatically.

The other change which you mentioned (Jr. Members needing 1 merit) was probably too low of an entry point and if you think of how many newbies started to beg (in a spam-y way) I'm not sure there was a big change, still it was on the right track I believe.

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September 23, 2018, 12:50:53 PM
Merited by dbshck (1)
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September 23, 2018, 10:40:54 PM
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The start of new ERA!

Wow, it doubled Smiley merit to tha moooon Cheesy
Seriously, it was a big change glad to see the impact now Smiley

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September 24, 2018, 08:51:34 AM
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Participate in discussions over the last time observed that the quality of messages from newcomers markedly increased.Many newcomers received their first merit smart and correct thoughts. which is definitely the benefit of innovation.
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September 24, 2018, 09:00:30 AM
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1 Merit for Jr. Member is still not enough. We need at least 5.

An account created 20 mins ago is already writing about the merit, why don't you post with your main account.
Whatever, yes we need more merit required to rank up, or a decay every few weeks. Probably the 1st is better.

1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

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September 24, 2018, 10:45:54 AM
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1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

Almost at 100 merit here! Grin It's possible that I'll be able to hit 100 after exactly one year, starting from 0.

I was never a shitposter but I remember that when I first found out about the Merit system (I was a newbie when it was introduced) for the first few months I was thinking how I'd make my posts better to earn merits. Later on I stopped thinking about the merits and just posted whenever I had some free time to surf the forums, but the principals had stayed... that way of posting got me merits slowly but thanks to the last changes I feel the speed of earning is higher.

My advice to legit members is to focus on threads with subjects they are familiar with and do their best to give constructive and clear answers to people who ask questions there.

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September 24, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
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Wow, it doubled Smiley merit to tha moooon Cheesy
Seriously, it was a big change glad to see the impact now Smiley

Sadly, in my opinion, this is a pumped result.
On this week a lot of accounts had 1 merit to rank up from sources, friends and abusers. Next week the number it will go down around 5k.



1 merit is fine for Junior. A small ask for the reward of moving up a rank, but it's not sufficient to get a signature and start earning here. We should try ten merit and becoming a Member before you get a sign and see how that goes. I think it would help enormously, but we could keep upping the requirement over time if it's not helping much. I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff and the shitposters from the great posters. Only those who have contributed something significant here would be able to earn then and the forum would be a much better place for it.

It can be ok, but with 5 we have an easier task for finding abusers and sellers.

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September 24, 2018, 11:00:26 AM
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<...> I'd really like to see how many users could get 100 merit before they can start earning here though. <...>
Currently, there are 358 forum members who have earned >= 100 sMerits, with @theymos and @satoshi at the top ...

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September 24, 2018, 11:25:15 AM
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits

Another interesting thing would be to verify when was the last time merits were sent from anybody who sent merit to the newly de-ranked jr. members.
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September 24, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits
I'll see what I can do, starting with "my" Full Merit history for all users (big file!).

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Another interesting thing would be to verify when was the last time merits were sent from anybody who sent merit to the newly de-ranked jr. members.
That's too much for me to do right now Tongue

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September 24, 2018, 04:00:48 PM
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits<...>
I posted the list yesterday (Analysis - Ranked up Newbies in the new Era). The complete list with some additional data is located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KmBvi21XZn6Oxh8c6Vsuax6wxSAhsQWsAzDYfsYOU2E/edit?usp=sharing.

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September 24, 2018, 04:35:10 PM
Merited by Foxpup (3)
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits<...>
I posted the list yesterday (Analysis - Ranked up Newbies in the new Era). The complete list with some additional data is located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KmBvi21XZn6Oxh8c6Vsuax6wxSAhsQWsAzDYfsYOU2E/edit?usp=sharing.

nice, i see there are people which received even 100 of merits  Grin

About accounts that suddenly woke up to help these people in need:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909195


Received by 909195Total Merits 100

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909166

Sent by 909166Total Merits 50

Received by 909166Total Merits 100


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=907810

Received by 907810Total Merits 100
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September 24, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
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<...>
Yes, there are a few 50 TXs that have been awarded on the list. Every time I see one of those now days, it reminds me of the 500 € bank notes: you never really get to see them on street level, and they are often used for dodgy reasons … follow the money trail ...

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September 24, 2018, 06:34:35 PM
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Has this recently been updated? I am pretty sure I needed 10 for jr. Rank if I am correct, did they decrease the merit requirements?

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September 24, 2018, 06:36:26 PM
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I welcome this new merit and rank requirements. It will improve quality posts but abuse will be in the same line. Many Newbies will try to beg 1 merit even with purchasing merit.

I find people like you more irritating than newbies. You earned 0 and you spent 0. Fully involved in facebook-twitter-shitposting  and welcoming the system with 0 contribution.

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September 24, 2018, 09:31:45 PM
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits
I'll see what I can do, starting with "my" Full Merit history for all users (big file!).
Follow up: List of demoted Jr. Members who were ranked up again.

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September 24, 2018, 10:39:29 PM
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im not sure if anybody pulled out details data about who sent to who in regard of the magic merit to pass from newbie to jr. member, but this may account for a significant part of those 6922 merits<...>
I posted the list yesterday (Analysis - Ranked up Newbies in the new Era). The complete list with some additional data is located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KmBvi21XZn6Oxh8c6Vsuax6wxSAhsQWsAzDYfsYOU2E/edit?usp=sharing.

nice, i see there are people which received even 100 of merits  Grin

<...>

wow! so I still have some hope to reach Sr. Member this year!
got work on my ideas for good posts and contributions for the forum!

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September 26, 2018, 12:25:44 AM
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Hey guys,

I will go straight, I was Jr. Member and after update I become newbie. I need Jr.Member status to continue promote 0xUniverse.com. Members who like blockchain-based games take a look at that project and if you like the idea and the way this project is going than give 1 merit. I am not promoting anything here, just showing my work on this forum and I want to continue it. When I get 1 merit I will delete this post for sure.

Cheers,
Just buy the Copper Member upgrade to be able to post images (it's only ~$15): Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

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