🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[Welsh]

I think he's getting better as a fighter though.

He's been curbing his antics recently. Not completely, still an absolute wild fighter, but to be honest I wouldn't want that to change. Like you said, one of the most exciting fighters, and to be honest the most unique fighter in the UFC. I want to see him do well, but for him to do really well, I think he would need to chuck the antics, which I don't think anyone who's a fan of him wants to see him doing. The thing is I actually think he's a top fighter, its just he gasses out from all the wild stuff he does, which at times can be annoying. He goes from doing wild stuff, absolutely destroying his opponent, then next minute he can barely hold himself up.

What I find with his style, his opponent's are actually very reluctant to throw due to the fact you just don't have a clue what's going to happen next. I mean even he himself, probably doesn't. I'm hoping for him to win though, probably my second most favourite current fighter.

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[YuginKadoya]

I thought fighters get weighed twice on weighing day? Didn't one of the fighters recently confirm that by saying they weigh backstage, even in front of the commission, and then come out, and weigh on the proper scales that we all get to watch. There might be a slight calibration error with those not being the exact same, but to be honest I'm not sure if I buy the whole thing. Could it just be he missed weight, and that's it? I know Justin claimed that the weighing scales was what he was expecting, and didn't differ, but I suppose you have to take that with a pinch of salt, since he's going to be trying to get in the head of Olivera at that point.

I'm not sure what to think about the whole situation, although I think it goes without saying that Joe Rogan has a ton of different theories on all sorts of things, and isn't afraid to voice his opinions, and take sides in conspiracy theories. While I do like him, he's not always credible.

I have come across that kind of theory and knowing Charles Oliveira he was confident enough to be sure he didn't miss his weight he was shocked when he knew the bad news about his weight, and he was surprised about it that expression got me thinking that Charles Oliveira really know his weight are before getting up that weighing scale, and that there must be some sort of technical issue about that scale, but surely if this is all Arranged so Oliveira could lose his belt that is one bad management the UFC is, but Oliveira just really needs to prove them how really good of a fighter he is,


I have read something that Ciryl Gane had played football and basketball in his youth and men if given the time he can surely excel in those sports until he decided to work in a furniture store, but was introduced by his former classmate on Muay Thai, and looking at his records on Muay Thai it was pretty much remarkable, 13 Wins 9 TKO/KO, and 4 Decision, 0 lost 0 Draw, that was a perfect record in my opinion, and I really want to see him in action again UFC gives him a fight please,

And Charles Oliveira VS Islam Makhachev fight might be on the horizon, but If Oliveira could beat Makhachev does this mean he can also beat Khabib Nurmagomedov, the answer I really think not even though both fighters have the same style, they have different approaches in my opinion while Khabib was great on ground and pound, while Makhachev is more on position and wants a submission kind of finish, and Islam had better defense on the stand up so comparing these fighters is not necessarily,

[Welsh]

Well put it this way, I'm definitely putting Ketlen Vieira on my accumulator. I think Holly Holm drops the ball here, and Ketlen dominates in the cage. Honestly, looking at the full card, as long as there's no other cancellations it's a pretty good card, which I suspect is getting slept on. Some decent match ups in the prelims, and the main card.

but surely if this is all Arranged so Oliveira could lose his belt that is one bad management the UFC is, but Oliveira just really needs to prove them how really good of a fighter he is,

I don't think it was. I don't think there's much of a conspiracy here, other than differences between the two weighing scales. I would assume that Oliveira will have the first opportunity to win his belt back, I don't know exactly who it'll be against, but I imagine he will. As long as it's not Conor getting the title shot, I'll be happy. Nah, I know Conor was talking about moving up, and looking at his recent pictures, I'd say that's the case.

[TopTort777]

I have come across that kind of theory and knowing Charles Oliveira he was confident enough to be sure he didn't miss his weight he was shocked when he knew the bad news about his weight, and he was surprised about it that expression got me thinking that Charles Oliveira really know his weight are before getting up that weighing scale, and that there must be some sort of technical issue about that scale, but surely if this is all Arranged so Oliveira could lose his belt that is one bad management the UFC is, but Oliveira just really needs to prove them how really good of a fighter he is,

There might be a theory, that Charles Oliveira did not make weight, because he knew about it (that it why he wasnt that much surprised, he just confused a little bit and looked on the right). He might even missed more than half pound (that is why he refused to cut it during given hour). He missed several pounds, and when the scaled showed only half of a pound, he looked a bit confused only). UFC announce missing only half of a pound, because they dont want Justin to go crazy and cancel the fight or purpose extra conditions (maybe more $).

Reason why this theory might be true - because Charles and his team did not make protests after the fight, that they want belt back, that they got robbed, bad scales and etc. Everyone is silent about it. No drama around. Nothing. When you are a champion, you lose belt due to half pound overweight, you stay silent after. I am sure there is something behind this whole story.

[Welsh]

Anyway, prediction time:

Ketlen Vieira
Michel Pereira
Duško Todorović
Polyana Viana
Jun Yong Park
Alen Amedovski
Jailton Almeida
Omar Morales
Jonathan Martinez
Chase Hooper
Sam Hughes

I'm going with Michel Pereira just because I'm a fan. Honestly, this is going to be a close fight, regardless if Michel looks after his gas tank. If he doesn't, I can probably see him getting knocked out in the second or third. Hopefully not.

I've gone for a few underdogs, especially in the women fights. Think there's a few there that will be close. Although, could go either way on pretty much all of the WMMA fights. I'm liking the look of Yong Park, Vieira, and Morales in particular. Also think Almeida gets a knock out or KO.

I'm probably having some time off now from betting, until the next big name event. I might put something on Michel, although I rarely do singles. Can't remember the last time I did a single bet. I'm not confident on the rest for an accumulator though.

[tokeweed]

^  I think I have just one underdog for the event.  Lol.  I'm not sure as I haven't checked the lines yet.  I could have another one in there.  I'll post my lottery tickets later after the weigh in.  That's prolly thebest way to go with this style of betting with 10 - 15 leg parlays, with 2 - 3 parlay pieces per ticket.  It's hard but it's fun tho...  and cheap.  It's more about the challenge of making the picks than winning the money.

Anyway here's jeremypwr's Multi Master.

UFC Vegas 55 Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399245.0

And official weigh ins will be live in a couple of hours from now.  Will post the vid asap.

[notblox1]

I am expecting a lot of surprises and underdogs winning bunch of fights in this fight card, but it's going to be hard predicting all the winners.
Weight-ins are starting soon so it's better to wait for confirmation before making any predictions, but here are my early bets if nothing changes:

Holly Holm
Santiago Ponzinibbio
Chidi Njokuani
Tabatha Ricci
Jun Yong Park
Joseph Holmes
Jailton Almeida
Uros Medic
Jonathan Martinez
Felipe Colares
Elise Reed

[tokeweed]

^  We have exactly the same picks before weigh ins.  But after weigh ins and face offs I have a couple of changes.  I'm back with Pereira and I could see it go Sam Hughes' way but ultra low confidence.  And the W could also go Anders'...  Dunno, another low confidence pick that'll go at the bottom of my lottery ticket.

I'll be putting them up at the Multi Master adter doing this post..  Weigh in and face off vids below.  Enjoy.

UFC Vegas 55:  Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCJfS5CB8Mk

UFC Vegas 55:  Face off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QcSEQfPvYc

Edit:  My lottery ticket

Holm - Njokuani at 1.96, 10 USD
Add:  Corales - Pereira at 5.13, 5 USD
Add:  Morales - Martinez - Anders at 34.07, 2 USD
Add:  Ricci - Holmes - Jailton at 104.31, 2 USD
Add:  Hughes at 237.83, 1 USD

[YuginKadoya]

I don't think it was. I don't think there's much of a conspiracy here, other than differences between the two weighing scales. I would assume that Oliveira will have the first opportunity to win his belt back, I don't know exactly who it'll be against, but I imagine he will. As long as it's not Conor getting the title shot, I'll be happy. Nah, I know Conor was talking about moving up, and looking at his recent pictures, I'd say that's the case.

Well, I think you are right, conspiracies are always not really good when someone believes it or someone digs, even more, deeper towards it, can become a wildfire, and nothing ut let it is all really just conspiracies, and it could be just a technical issue, and with Conor McGregor, it is all just talk and I think he will be having a hard time with the guys of top 6 starting with Beneil Dariush so the safest way for him is to just make money and take the money fights instead of aiming for a title shot because I think he is really out of the league, and I don't really want him for the title against Oliveira aswell, what I want is Islam Makhachev, that will be a great fight to watch,

There might be a theory, that Charles Oliveira did not make weight, because he knew about it (that it why he wasnt that much surprised, he just confused a little bit and looked on the right). He might even missed more than half pound (that is why he refused to cut it during given hour). He missed several pounds, and when the scaled showed only half of a pound, he looked a bit confused only). UFC announce missing only half of a pound, because they dont want Justin to go crazy and cancel the fight or purpose extra conditions (maybe more $).

Reason why this theory might be true - because Charles and his team did not make protests after the fight, that they want belt back, that they got robbed, bad scales and etc. Everyone is silent about it. No drama around. Nothing. When you are a champion, you lose belt due to half pound overweight, you stay silent after. I am sure there is something behind this whole story.

I think Charles Oliveira is confused because he really doesn't understand English well, and yeah Justin Gaethje will be furious if that was the case, but everyone is calm and collected and all have tried to seek out the problem very well so I think that is enough for me if we put more conspiracies and theory about what happened we will just add much oil on the fire,


Anyway here is my pick and sorry I will not put many details about it because I am kind of busy at the moment, highlighted in green are my picks,

Holly Holm VS Ketlen Vieira

Stake odds for this fight are 1.42 for Holm while 2.90 for Vieira,

Santiago Ponzinibbio VS Michel Pereira

Stake odds for this fight are 2.22 for Ponzinibbio while 1.67 for Pereira,

Polyana Viana VS Tabatha Ricci

Stake odds for this fight are 2.05 for Viana, while 1.78 for Ricci,

[hilariousetc]

I think he's getting better as a fighter though.

He's been curbing his antics recently. Not completely, still an absolute wild fighter, but to be honest I wouldn't want that to change. Like you said, one of the most exciting fighters, and to be honest the most unique fighter in the UFC. I want to see him do well, but for him to do really well, I think he would need to chuck the antics, which I don't think anyone who's a fan of him wants to see him doing. The thing is I actually think he's a top fighter, its just he gasses out from all the wild stuff he does, which at times can be annoying. He goes from doing wild stuff, absolutely destroying his opponent, then next minute he can barely hold himself up.

What I find with his style, his opponent's are actually very reluctant to throw due to the fact you just don't have a clue what's going to happen next. I mean even he himself, probably doesn't. I'm hoping for him to win though, probably my second most favourite current fighter.

He's said he's there to entertain and I think that's kind of become his USP. I wouldn't mind if he drops the shenanigans if it means he gets the wins and just puts up a good fight. You need a mix of characters in combat sports though so I hope he doesn't. It would be boring if everybody did the same thing and nobody did anything out of the ordinary. It's even more boring when fighters are too scared to take risks and just try coast it: see the recent Rose Namajunas v Carla Esparza fight. That one gave Ngannou v Derrick Lewis a run for the worst UFC fight ever. They should start giving out Shite Fight of the Night awards.

[TheNineClub]

The full results:



I haven't watched this event, there's not much that sparked my interest, but that's not to say that these fights haven't cleared up a couple of things. Pereira is tearing it up in a little bit of a stale division and, yeah...that's about it XD Still, two RNCs in one event, that's always nice to see.

[YuginKadoya]

And now that the UFC Fight Night: Holm VS Vieira here is the result of my pick, and it is not really looking good

Holly Holm VS Ketlen Vieira  Decision R5 - LOST

Now a lot of people disagree with the judge's Decision and if we will look at it and the scorecards 2 judges scored for Ketlen Vieira with 47-48 while the 1 was 48-47 for Holly Holm, now round 1 and 5 were really for Holly Holm while round 2 and 4 was for Vieira now many are saying that Round 3 was for Holly Holm and in my opinion, Holly Holm really has many volumes of strike on that round, and in my opinion, Ketlen Vieira really did less but those punches were stunning Holm, there really is an advantage on the number of punches Holly Holm does but the Quality and effectiveness of those strikes were for Ketlen Vieira, I may have pick Holm, but for me, it was a good fight and Vieira really did win that one,
 
Santiago Ponzinibbio VS Michel Pereira  Decision R3 - WIN

Pretty much a very good one for Pereira and the only pick that I won, but men Ponzinibbio thinks he won the fight but we all see that the advantage goes all to Pereira, he outscored him and had a huge strike output and pressured Ponzinibbio in the 1st and 2nd round, and if we look at the official scorecards 2 judges scored for Michel Pereira 28-29 and 27-30 while 1 judge scored for Ponzinibbio with 29-28 having the more scored and advantage on the fight the judges really scored correctly this time, in my opinion,


Polyana Viana VS Tabatha Ricci Decision R3 - LOST

Well at first I thought that Polyana Viana could win this for destroying a man that mugged her, but Tabatha Ricci has a striking advantage even though Viana has that Submission it was not really engaging so much and Tabatha was always aggressive with the takedowns I'd see Polyana Viana was always down thinking waiting for Ricci, the scorecards were unanimous for Tabatha Ricci 3 judges scored 28-29 all for Ricci, and that makes me feel frustrated for Viana,

[Welsh]

Happy for Michel, thought he did enough, but was a close fight. Wasn't too wild, but was still entertaining. I missed the main event so I can't comment on how close it was, I fell asleep after the Michel fight. I'll be looking at some highlights later, but they never really tell you the full story.

see the recent Rose Namajunas v Carla Esparza fight. That one gave Ngannou v Derrick Lewis a run for the worst UFC fight ever. They should start giving out Shite Fight of the Night awards.

That fight annoyed me even more when Rose thought she won, and did what she had too. I mean, honestly I would have scored two of the rounds 10-10 or 0-0 whichever way. It was absolutely shocking. I saw some comparing it to Izzy, and Romero, but for me wasn't anything like it. At least there was a little action, and some technique going on.

I kind of just wish that the UFC starts docking points for cage grabs, eye pokes, and punishing fighters that aren't there to fight, but to just do enough to win. I get it somewhat, you don't want to get in a fire fight as your odds of winning go down, however this is a sport, and therefore it needs entertainment. That's the reality of it.

[bittraffic]

And now that the UFC Fight Night: Holm VS Vieira here is the result of my pick, and it is not really looking good

Holly Holm VS Ketlen Vieira  Decision R5 - LOST

Now a lot of people disagree with the judge's Decision and if we will look at it and the scorecards 2 judges scored for Ketlen Vieira with 47-48 while the 1 was 48-47 for Holly Holm, now round 1 and 5 were really for Holly Holm while round 2 and 4 was for Vieira now many are saying that Round 3 was for Holly Holm and in my opinion, Holly Holm really has many volumes of strike on that round, and in my opinion, Ketlen Vieira really did less but those punches were stunning Holm, there really is an advantage on the number of punches Holly Holm does but the Quality and effectiveness of those strikes were for Ketlen Vieira, I may have pick Holm, but for me, it was a good fight and Vieira really did win that one,
 

They were saying that Ketlen did more damage than Holm but point difference is just 1 Point. If Ketlen did more damage compare to the volume of punches from Holm, how come there is just 1 point difference?  Its frustrating to see yourself lose with a questionable UD. I'd rather be seeing a TKO or submission.

Holly wins when you least expect like against Rousey or her with Raquel Pennington.

[tokeweed]

^  Vieira had more power behind her shots, that's why.  Holm mostly throws pitter patter shots coupled with tennis sounds.  And if you watched that match, optics from my own pov shows Vieira won..  And I'm saying it with having a ticket with Holm.  But it's just one of those match ups that could go either way.  It wasn't a total robbery.  It's the same with the other match up that also ended in a split decision...  I saw it with Anders winning but the judges went the other way.

Happy for Michel, thought he did enough, but was a close fight. Wasn't too wild, but was still entertaining. I missed the main event so I can't comment on how close it was, I fell asleep after the Michel fight. I'll be looking at some highlights later, but they never really tell you the full story.

He def did enough.  He was slowing down towards the end of the match tho and gave Ponz a chance to catch up.

[eaLiTy]

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They were saying that Ketlen did more damage than Holm but point difference is just 1 Point. If Ketlen did more damage compare to the volume of punches from Holm, how come there is just 1 point difference?  Its frustrating to see yourself lose with a questionable UD. I'd rather be seeing a TKO or submission.

Holly wins when you least expect like against Rousey or her with Raquel Pennington.

I was watching the fight live and i thought Holly Holm won the fight but after hearing the judges decision i was surprised and i am sure Ketlen Vieira was also surprised and so is the reason she was emotional after delivering the post fight speech. There was a good standing submission attempt from Ketlen Vieira but other than that Holly Holm won the striking battle and fight stats will prove that.

[Bttzed03]

^ Before the fifth round, her team also thought she was losing and was down by three rounds to one.

If it was under different set of judges, Holly could have won by unanimous decision. I wouldn't be surprised if it was scored 49-46 in her favor. She had octagon control and more (light) strikes but judges probably thought less of that. It's a tough loss for her but it's what you get when you leave the result of the fight to them.

If it was judged based on the entirety of the fight, picking Ketlen would be less controversial. She almost won by submission and landed heavier strikes doing more damage after all.

[TopTort777]

UFC Fight Night: Volkov vs. Rozenstruik



Date: Sat, Jun 4
Main Card: SAT, JUN 4 / 11:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Heavyweight: Alexander Volkov vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik            
Featherweight: Dan Ige vs. Movsar Evloev            
Featherweight: Michael Trizano vs. Lucas Almeida            
Women's Flyweight: Poliana Botelho vs. Karine Silva            
Light Heavyweight: Alonzo Menifield vs. Askar Mozharov            
Women's Strawweight: Felice Herrig vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz   
Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Alex da Silva Coelho vs. Joe Solecki            
Featherweight: Damon Jackson vs. Daniel Argueta            
Flyweight: Zarrukh Adashev vs. Ode' Osbourne            
Lightweight: Benoît Saint-Denis vs. Niklas Stolze            
Bantamweight: Tony Gravely vs. Johnny Munoz Jr.            
Flyweight: Zhalgas Zhumagulov vs. Jeff Molina            
Welterweight: Andreas Michailidis vs. Rinat Fakhretdinov            
Women's Flyweight: Erin Blanchfield vs. JJ Aldrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Volkov_vs._Rozenstruik

P.S. I will edit card, as soon as there will be more clear info about main event and prelims

[YuginKadoya]

-snip-
 

They were saying that Ketlen did more damage than Holm but point difference is just 1 Point. If Ketlen did more damage compare to the volume of punches from Holm, how come there is just 1 point difference?  Its frustrating to see yourself lose with a questionable UD. I'd rather be seeing a TKO or submission.

Holly wins when you least expect like against Rousey or her with Raquel Pennington.

If we look at the 3rd round that is the only round that is very questionable because even though Holly Holm has many points regarding strikes, and I think she got many light strikes, Ketlen Vieira got many medium and heavy strikes to Holly Holm if you would look at the 3rd round of the fight watch it on slow-mo and count all that strikes, and you can see that reaction of Holm to Vieira's punches, I really want Holly Holms to win this fight because I bet for her but looking at the fight Ketlen Vieira's strikes has good impact to Holm if they think that Holly Holm wins then protest what they have seen, and yes it is good to see a fight that is with a TKO or Submission finish than with decision on what the judges think,

^ Before the fifth round, her team also thought she was losing and was down by three rounds to one.

If it was under different set of judges, Holly could have won by unanimous decision. I wouldn't be surprised if it was scored 49-46 in her favor. She had octagon control and more (light) strikes but judges probably thought less of that. It's a tough loss for her but it's what you get when you leave the result of the fight to them.

If it was judged based on the entirety of the fight, picking Ketlen would be less controversial. She almost won by submission and landed heavier strikes doing more damage after all.

Holly Holm should have won with a Knockout or Submission if they really want to win, or bring her own judges that will give the favor to her, I have bet for Holly Holms, but after watching the fight Ketlen Vieira has the more impactful strikes than Holm's and I've only seen light strikes on Holm's side, while Vieira is really looking for a Knockout, that non-damaging strikes won't do any good to Vieira, I guess this is goodbye to Holly Holm's career if she can not make a KO/TKO win and not like the Holly Holm back on 2017, all fights end up with decisions,

UFC Fight Night: Volkov vs. Rozenstruik

Date: Sat, Jun 4
Main Card: SAT, JUN 4 / 11:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Heavyweight: Alexander Volkov vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik
Featherweight: Dan Ige vs Movsar Evloev
Featherweight: Michael Trizano vs Lucas Almeida
Flyweight: Ode Osbourne vs Zarrukh Adashev
Flyweight: Poliana Botelho vs Karine Silva
Light Heavyweight: Alonzo Menifield vs Askar Mozharov
Strawweight: Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs Felice Herrig
Lightweight: Joe Solecki vs Alex da Silva Coelho
Featherweight: Damon Jackson vs Darrick Minner
Welterweight: Niklas Stolze vs Benoit St. Denis
Bantamweight: Tony Gravely vs Johnny Munoz Jr.
Flyweight: Jeff Molina vs Zhalgas Zhumagulov
Welterweight: Andreas Michailidis vs Rinat Fakhretdinov
Flyweight: Erin Blanchfield vs J.J. Aldrich

https://www.sherdog.com/events/UFC-Fight-Night-207-Volkov-vs-Rozenstruik-92057

P.S. I will edit card, as soon as there will be more clear info about main event and prelims

Looking forward to the Main event Alexander Volkov and Jairzinho Rozenstruik two of the men that Ciryl Gane defeated, Dan Ige and Movsar Evloev, and the Poliana Botelho and Karine Silva and Erin Blanchfield and J.J. Aldrich,

@bbc.reporter look out for Poliana Botelho and Erin Blanchfield two fighting kitties that I think you will like,

[Welsh]

I'd be interested in hearing someone's input that isn't going for Alexander Volkov. Personally I don't see it going any other way, and without checking the odds I imagine they'll reflect that.

He def did enough.  He was slowing down towards the end of the match tho and gave Ponz a chance to catch up.

Quite proud of him really, seems to have got noticeably better cardio in recent fights, like I said toning down that wildness, while still being entertaining. I said it before, I don't want him to lose it completely since it does make it a unique fighter, and very fun to watch. However, if he keeps fighting like that I see him climbing the rankings. That gas tank if he can get under control, is one of the main contributors to that.