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February 23, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
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Players must be taken as players but in India too much light is thrown on cricketers as if they are some super human. If kohli speaks against Indian festivals then its entirely fault of India that they have given him so much importance as cricketer that he is now lecturing them on matters other then cricket.
What he say or do apart from cricket is secondary thing Prime thing is he is consistently not performing in all formats of cricket and BCCI has no objection on his current form then he will continue to play like that.

South Asian countries are crazy about cricket and cricketers. This situation of too much light thrown on cricketers is not only concentrated in India but its neighbouring countries too. In my opinion, Kohli should have been given another chance he did perform well in the second T20 match. If he had played in the third T20 match then it would have helped him to regain his lost form. It would have helped him in the upcoming test cricket. 

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February 23, 2022, 09:53:48 AM
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Players must be taken as players but in India too much light is thrown on cricketers as if they are some super human. If kohli speaks against Indian festivals then its entirely fault of India that they have given him so much importance as cricketer that he is now lecturing them on matters other then cricket.
What he say or do apart from cricket is secondary thing Prime thing is he is consistently not performing in all formats of cricket and BCCI has no objection on his current form then he will continue to play like that.

South Asian countries are crazy about cricket and cricketers. This situation of too much light thrown on cricketers is not only concentrated in India but its neighbouring countries too. In my opinion, Kohli should have been given another chance he did perform well in the second T20 match. If he had played in the third T20 match then it would have helped him to regain his lost form. It would have helped him in the upcoming test cricket. 

I believe that Kohli will be shown the exit door if he continues to flop, and I say this because the selectors and the coach have taken the bold call to drop Rahane and Pujara, and Wriddhiman Saha has been openly told the doors for him are shut. Furthermore the importance from Kohli has shifted to Rohit Sharma, and Kohli now no longer will get special treatment, hence if he doesn’t improve his game quickly then he’ll be shown the exit door too.
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February 23, 2022, 03:53:22 PM
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At present, I am not very satisfied with the performance of Test cricket in India. Because they play very well at home but can't perform very well abroad.
Consideration needs to be given to Indian players performing outside the country. I think there are a lot of young talented players in India right now, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So we who are fans of India, we have to expect good performance from them. Of course, now they are moving slowly in this regard which is a good thing.
It's very strange for me as you are not satisfied with Indian test cricket performance just after losing one series against South Africa even they won back to back two series in Australia, and recently they are winning a series against England.
Right now, they are very well-prepared and having all material for future it is very good time for them because they have enough funds, and they are doing all required things which can give them very good result in long term basis, and I am feeling currently after Australia they are very organized sports body in cricket because mostly others are struggling or having many issues specially finances are the biggest issue for many countries, but they are very well-prepared and have good talented players as well with recently win U19CWC is also very good and showing how they are good in their planning for future.

I think that India has been quite well in the test cricket but the problem is people are concentrating more on the problems that were on the cricket board. But in my opinion, I think that India has been doing quite well in test cricket. Probably the problem is no one expected India to lose their recent test series and they did not live up to that expectation.

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February 23, 2022, 03:57:30 PM
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South Asian countries are crazy about cricket and cricketers. This situation of too much light thrown on cricketers is not only concentrated in India but its neighbouring countries too. In my opinion, Kohli should have been given another chance he did perform well in the second T20 match. If he had played in the third T20 match then it would have helped him to regain his lost form. It would have helped him in the upcoming test cricket. 

In southeast Asia countries, a lot of people are living below the poverty line and they think that someone getting paid just for playing cricket is some type of luxury. So, they expect the cricketers to be the best at their job. And if a player does below par for a short period of time people expect them to be removed from the team and get someone better. But, I didn't think that something like that will happen with Kohli as he is literally one of the best players to ever play cricket.



I believe that Kohli will be shown the exit door if he continues to flop, and I say this because the selectors and the coach have taken the bold call to drop Rahane and Pujara, and Wriddhiman Saha has been openly told the doors for him are shut. Furthermore the importance from Kohli has shifted to Rohit Sharma, and Kohli now no longer will get special treatment, hence if he doesn’t improve his game quickly then he’ll be shown the exit door too.

I really don't believe that this is going to happen at least in the case of Virat Kohli because he can really come back strongly. He also have served the Indian team really well and should be given more time to get his form back.

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February 23, 2022, 08:05:22 PM
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I think that India has been quite well in the test cricket but the problem is people are concentrating more on the problems that were on the cricket board. But in my opinion, I think that India has been doing quite well in test cricket. Probably the problem is no one expected India to lose their recent test series and they did not live up to that expectation.
Right now biggest issue is now after launching of IPL Indian cricket board is having good luxury and very good amount in their wallet so every one looking for perfection from them in all formats which is not possible because money is never been having any impact on player's performance it's completely another thing so currently too many expectations from Team India is also creating some good feud around them and after losing test series against struggling South Africa it's a lesson for them, and they are taking some good and right decisions but many not looking in this way.

Now it's good time for them to do some revolutionary changes in their domestic system and not relay all on just IPL because these changes can bring good results in long run for them.
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February 24, 2022, 12:02:22 AM
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At present, I am not very satisfied with the performance of Test cricket in India. Because they play very well at home but can't perform very well abroad.

Consideration needs to be given to Indian players performing outside the country. I think there are a lot of young talented players in India right now, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So we who are fans of India, we have to expect good performance from them. Of course, now they are moving slowly in this regard which is a good thing.
It's very strange for me as you are not satisfied with Indian test cricket performance just after losing one series against South Africa even they won back to back two series in Australia, and recently they are winning a series against England.
People tend to forget the performance from India as they were dominating Australia in Australia with a second string team and then followed that up with a win over England in England and in the first Test against South Africa they won and then lost the next two matches and the series, but overall they are a much different team than they used to and i do not see any real competition if they play their best players in any condition.
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February 24, 2022, 02:32:59 AM
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People tend to forget the performance from India as they were dominating Australia in Australia with a second string team and then followed that up with a win over England in England and in the first Test against South Africa they won and then lost the next two matches and the series, but overall they are a much different team than they used to and i do not see any real competition if they play their best players in any condition.

Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.

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February 24, 2022, 03:24:23 AM
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People tend to forget the performance from India as they were dominating Australia in Australia with a second string team and then followed that up with a win over England in England and in the first Test against South Africa they won and then lost the next two matches and the series, but overall they are a much different team than they used to and i do not see any real competition if they play their best players in any condition.

Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.
Sounds weird argument considering WTC is 2 years affair.

Btw India has played  14 test match after BG Trophy and Won 7, lost 5 with 2 draw.

Why would you want to replace red ball specialists with the white ball players? If specialist players are performing bad then they should be replace with only red ball players, not the other way around. I don't remember Hardik playing any test match in last 3-4 so don't know what are you talking about by mentioning his name. BTW Siraj is young guy in test cricket, unless you only consider 19 yo as young.
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February 24, 2022, 04:33:56 AM
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Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.

Muhammad Siraj is still in squad for test series against SL. Muhammad Siraj must take this opportunity seriously else he will be dropped like Pandya, Rahane and Pujara. Once you are dropped from squad and asked to play in domestic to prove your fitness and form it becomes difficult to find your place in squad.
Kohli is in squad for SL test series but not for T20 series. Kohli will be very soon a history if he stayed in his current form for few more series.
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Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.

Muhammad Siraj is still in squad for test series against SL. Muhammad Siraj must take this opportunity seriously else he will be dropped like Pandya, Rahane and Pujara. Once you are dropped from squad and asked to play in domestic to prove your fitness and form it becomes difficult to find your place in squad.
Kohli is in squad for SL test series but not for T20 series. Kohli will be very soon a history if he stayed in his current form for few more series.
Suraj has only played 12 test matches till now and has taken 36 wicket. As a bowler his performance in test is good and he might be the replacement of Ishant sharma or bhuvnesh kumar in the future. If he performs well in the upcoming test series with SL then he might become a permanent bowler for India. Kohli is going through a rough patch now. I am sure he will regain his form soon

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February 24, 2022, 08:11:09 AM
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Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.
Sounds weird argument considering WTC is 2 years affair.

Btw India has played  14 test match after BG Trophy and Won 7, lost 5 with 2 draw.

Why would you want to replace red ball specialists with the white ball players? If specialist players are performing bad then they should be replace with only red ball players, not the other way around. I don't remember Hardik playing any test match in last 3-4 so don't know what are you talking about by mentioning his name. BTW Siraj is young guy in test cricket, unless you only consider 19 yo as young.
This is average performance from them, and now it is good time to change this because with these changes and having new captain surely going to give some positive impact with Kohli is now out with is personal ego and personal likes and dislikes in team selection is also ended for many players.

With the entry of few youngsters and help of other senior players surely going to change all momentum against Sri Lanka in test matches after this they have very tight schedule which involved South Africa England and then twenty/20 world cup mean again no rest for this money making human machines. Look like now they are not going to have any fair chance in second WTC championship after losing first final against New Zealand at Lords, with some good number of white ball events waiting for them.
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February 24, 2022, 04:56:31 PM
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New Zealand vs South Africa second test match will be starting in a while. New Zealand won there first test match against South Africa at Christchurch (17 to 21 Feb 2022) and they have not won any test series against New Zealand rather have lost 13 out of last 16 series. Its a historic moment for New Zealand to win there first test series against South Africa.

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February 24, 2022, 05:10:16 PM
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Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.
Sounds weird argument considering WTC is 2 years affair.
Btw India has played  14 test match after BG Trophy and Won 7, lost 5 with 2 draw.
Why would you want to replace red ball specialists with the white ball players? If specialist players are performing bad then they should be replace with only red ball players, not the other way around. I don't remember Hardik playing any test match in last 3-4 so don't know what are you talking about by mentioning his name. BTW Siraj is young guy in test cricket, unless you only consider 19 yo as young.
This is average performance from them, and now it is good time to change this because with these changes and having new captain surely going to give some positive impact with Kohli is now out with is personal ego and personal likes and dislikes in team selection is also ended for many players.
With the entry of few youngsters and help of other senior players surely going to change all momentum against Sri Lanka in test matches after this they have very tight schedule which involved South Africa England and then twenty/20 world cup mean again no rest for this money making human machines. Look like now they are not going to have any fair chance in second WTC championship after losing first final against New Zealand at Lords, with some good number of white ball events waiting for them.

I think that makes more sense because we have seen a lot of teams making this mistake of playing players of the shorter format in test cricket, and that Idea failed really miserably, and then when the player lost their form we blamed the selector board for their mistake. And shit talked about a lot of players.

That type of over-eagerness should not be appreciated and I think the player who played test cricket better should be prioritized for test cricket than any other better player who plays one day or t20 good.

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February 24, 2022, 05:37:33 PM
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Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked.
Muhammad Siraj is still in squad for test series against SL. Muhammad Siraj must take this opportunity seriously else he will be dropped like Pandya, Rahane and Pujara. Once you are dropped from squad and asked to play in domestic to prove your fitness and form it becomes difficult to find your place in squad.
Kohli is in squad for SL test series but not for T20 series. Kohli will be very soon a history if he stayed in his current form for few more series.
Suraj has only played 12 test matches till now and has taken 36 wicket. As a bowler his performance in test is good and he might be the replacement of Ishant sharma or bhuvnesh kumar in the future. If he performs well in the upcoming test series with SL then he might become a permanent bowler for India. Kohli is going through a rough patch now. I am sure he will regain his form soon

For me, I am always going to prefer experience over talent in test cricket. I know this is not the most popular belief but it is what it is. The reason why I think this is because test cricket takes a lot more skills than shorter formats of cricket.

In test cricket, bowlers bowl the same ball for 3-4 overs to set up the batsmen for a certain ball. But that doesn't exist in ODI or T20. And quite frankly I don't think the young players have the composure of doing that. I would rather trust my experienced bowlers in tests. But in the case of Suraj , I think he has some experience of the test even though it's quite minimal compared to a lot of others. But in the matches, he played he did quite well. So worth a shot I guess.

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This is average performance from them, and now it is good time to change this because with these changes and having new captain surely going to give some positive impact with Kohli is now out with is personal ego and personal likes and dislikes in team selection is also ended for many players.
With the entry of few youngsters and help of other senior players surely going to change all momentum against Sri Lanka in test matches after this they have very tight schedule which involved South Africa England and then twenty/20 world cup mean again no rest for this money making human machines. Look like now they are not going to have any fair chance in second WTC championship after losing first final against New Zealand at Lords, with some good number of white ball events waiting for them.

Seems like it. They honestly have a really tight schedule and it seems like fatigue will have a big role to play here. I am really interested to see how the youngsters play against Sri Lanka, to be honest.

Because today I have already seen Ishan Kishan play really well in the T20 matches against Sri Lanka. I believe India has some great young prospects and they could prove to be really useful in the coming matches that they have on the schedule.

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Suraj has only played 12 test matches till now and has taken 36 wicket. As a bowler his performance in test is good and he might be the replacement of Ishant sharma or bhuvnesh kumar in the future. If he performs well in the upcoming test series with SL then he might become a permanent bowler for India. Kohli is going through a rough patch now. I am sure he will regain his form soon


23 innings and 36 wickets, he is still roaming in border line area where he can be replaced anytime if he failed to give some outstanding performance since there are many talented bowlers in the Queue. Kohli case is getting complicated day by day, he is dropped from matches because of different reasons but it looks like bcci is looking for his replacement.
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Second test match between South Africa and New Zealand is underway. South Africa made a good start after facing a big defeat in first test match. Two sessions of the first day are almost complete and South Africa are nicely placed at 163 and just one wicket lost. Openers made a good start of 111 runs partnership, Sarel Erwee is not out on 100. No one is expecting such performance from South Africa.
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Second test match between South Africa and New Zealand is underway. South Africa made a good start after facing a big defeat in first test match. Two sessions of the first day are almost complete and South Africa are nicely placed at 163 and just one wicket lost. Openers made a good start of 111 runs partnership, Sarel Erwee is not out on 100. No one is expecting such performance from South Africa.

Yes, it is a good stat for South Africa thanks to the top 3 batters they have scored 238 for the lost of 3 wickets. Van de dussen and Bhavuma are batting at the moment. If these guys lose their wicket then it will be a struggle for the South African batters. I am expecting a score of more than 300 runs by the end of day one.

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February 25, 2022, 05:19:10 AM
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Yes, it is a good stat for South Africa thanks to the top 3 batters they have scored 238 for the lost of 3 wickets. Van de dussen and Bhavuma are batting at the moment. If these guys lose their wicket then it will be a struggle for the South African batters. I am expecting a score of more than 300 runs by the end of day one.

On day 1 stump, South Africa are 238 for loss of 3 wickets. So far all batsmen have scored runs not just one men i.e. Sarel Erwee who scored century. South Africa recently have beaten India team during there home test series but lost miserably in the first game and they have made promising start of this game. South Africa must try to score over 350 runs as NZ have strong batting line up.
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February 25, 2022, 05:54:55 AM
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Yes, it is a good stat for South Africa thanks to the top 3 batters they have scored 238 for the lost of 3 wickets. Van de dussen and Bhavuma are batting at the moment. If these guys lose their wicket then it will be a struggle for the South African batters. I am expecting a score of more than 300 runs by the end of day one.
On day 1 stump, South Africa are 238 for loss of 3 wickets. So far all batsmen have scored runs not just one men i.e. Sarel Erwee who scored century. South Africa recently have beaten India team during there home test series but lost miserably in the first game and they have made promising start of this game. South Africa must try to score over 350 runs as NZ have strong batting line up.

After a humiliating defeat in the first Test, an innings and 276 runs, South Africa's return today was truly remarkable. With just 3 wickets in hand, they are able to score 238 runs. If they are able to collect 150-200 runs tomorrow, it will be difficult for New Zealand to win this match, despite their strong batting lineup. However, I do not think that New Zealand will lose this match, maybe New Zealand will win or the match will be a draw.

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