Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[barbara44]

There is an opportunity to make Test cricket enjoyable. For this, the ICC has to take some difficult steps. The batting-friendly pitch must be stopped completely. As a result, the match became boring. But what the pitch will look like depends entirely on the home team. Notice, the match between England and West Indies is quite exciting. Only the team that plays well will win.

Now things are very difficult to make Test Cricket as enjoyable, sitting in front of television or in cricket ground for five day match is very hard job specially in Third World countries even now Indians fans are also not coming for test cricket matches just because of this looking to ICC for bringing some changes in not good as they can't do anything with this current system we can expect test cricket will survive for some long time because still we have something in this in few countries.

Fast pitches can bring some better results but still not fair for having some good interest and increase in fans base life is going to be difficult so every one looking for something better which need some good time and with this all it's not possible to watch these matches and have enjoyment.

T10 and T20 is better replacement but still many having no time for them as well, mostly peoples checking just scorecard on apps and having their required updates.

[JohnBitCo]

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.  

Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

[blatchcorn]

Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

I don't think it's an upset. England already lost ODI series here in West Indies while the first two matches ended in a draw. If you go a bit back, England just manage to survive 5-0 in Ashes. England still have two wickets left, they need some megical stuff like Joshua Da Silva did lower down the order.

[CryptoBuds]

Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

I don't think it's an upset. England already lost ODI series here in West Indies while the first two matches ended in a draw. If you go a bit back, England just manage to survive 5-0 in Ashes. England still have two wickets left, they need some megical stuff like Joshua Da Silva did lower down the order.

We have been watching the irregular performances of the England team since the World Cup. The players of the team are not able to play well. No player is able to play good innings on a regular basis. Top-order players in particular have become more vulnerable to survival at the crease. If the top order of the team does not play well, it is very difficult to win. I think players need peace of mind. They have lost confidence.

[coinism]

We have been watching the irregular performances of the England team since the World Cup. The players of the team are not able to play well. No player is able to play good innings on a regular basis. Top-order players in particular have become more vulnerable to survival at the crease. If the top order of the team does not play well, it is very difficult to win. I think players need peace of mind. They have lost confidence.

England team is fully dependent on Root and Root is now feeling this pressure of whole team. Stokes is other one with whom England has huge expectations but since Ashes he failed to produce good results. Like Anderson and Broad, more players need to be excluded from team and new talent must be given some chance. It will definitely take some time.

[Swordsoffreedom]

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root. 

It was a terrible day for England's cricket. Their top order didn't bat. This problem has existed for years. Right now, they're lacking of everything; their mindset, their approach, their self-belief, their abilities to bat throughout the day. Bio-bubbles are affecting them negatively since they spend a lot of time in them. Instead of resting and managing players constantly, play the best XI.

I think the main problem for England players at the moment is that they have lost confidence. Because they are consistently playing bad. The players have lost form. And now, due to lack of confidence, their performance has become even weaker. I thought England could play well against the West Indies. But England is showing a weaker performance against the West Indies. Their key players must be rested before the next World Cup. Otherwise, England will perform poorly in the World Cup.

[Theones]

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True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

The funny aspect is that even though the pitch was flat, the Australian bowlers were able exploit reverse swing which was introduced to world Cricket by Pakistan legends and Australia was able to win the match and series.
England is struggling in the second innings as they already lost their 7th wicket and they are leading by just 7 runs and it looks like West Indies will win the match easily.

Aussie are amazing be it Women's team or Men's team, they have Shape minds. They know how to cope up with any situation. They are dedicated and hard working and put their souls into their task. I am very great fan of Aussie they have great techniques for sports and other stuff.

[onecall123]

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root. 

It was a terrible day for England's cricket. Their top order didn't bat. This problem has existed for years. Right now, they're lacking of everything; their mindset, their approach, their self-belief, their abilities to bat throughout the day. Bio-bubbles are affecting them negatively since they spend a lot of time in them. Instead of resting and managing players constantly, play the best XI.

I think the main problem for England players at the moment is that they have lost confidence. Because they are consistently playing bad. The players have lost form. And now, due to lack of confidence, their performance has become even weaker. I thought England could play well against the West Indies. But England is showing a weaker performance against the West Indies. Their key players must be rested before the next World Cup. Otherwise, England will perform poorly in the World Cup.

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident. 

[kro55]

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident. 

There are a lot of talented batsmen in the England team. But there are not enough experienced players for the Test format. Talented players are not always suitable for the Test format. If you want to play well in Test format, you must be patient. Otherwise, you are not able to survive at the crease for long. England's management should form a Test squad with lessons learned from the defeat against the West Indies.

[Theones]

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident. 

Victory here for Wet Indies by 10 wickets after 2 draw matches. This victory is only because of Joshua Da Silva century in the first innings, he is also man of the match. WI badly need such victories in coming days to regain there form. While something is terribly wrong with England, they need to think whats going on in the team. May be they need to give rest to experienced players that are not performing.  

[Maidak]

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident. 

There are a lot of talented batsmen in the England team. But there are not enough experienced players for the Test format. Talented players are not always suitable for the Test format. If you want to play well in Test format, you must be patient. Otherwise, you are not able to survive at the crease for long. England's management should form a Test squad with lessons learned from the defeat against the West Indies.

I have always seen England as a great test cricket-playing nation and I don't think I am wrong. But England nowadays have a lot of concerns on limited-overs cricket and that's why I think they forgot about test cricket.

I really did not expect this result from England against a team like West Indies. I expect England to beat West Indies in 10 out of 10 matches but I see that the skill of the England test cricket team has certainly deteriorated. They need to concentrate on test cricket to have better results in the future.

[7788bitcoin]

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I have always seen England as a great test cricket-playing nation and I don't think I am wrong. But England nowadays have a lot of concerns on limited-overs cricket and that's why I think they forgot about test cricket.

England have a great ODI and T20 team right now and they proved that winning the World Cup but to claim that England had a great Test team is not true as teams like Australia and South Africa used to defeat them at home. The only resurrections was the 2005 Ashes where England won against all odds against Australia and it is one of the best series in world cricket.

I really did not expect this result from England against a team like West Indies. I expect England to beat West Indies in 10 out of 10 matches but I see that the skill of the England test cricket team has certainly deteriorated. They need to concentrate on test cricket to have better results in the future.

Even i did not expect West Indies to win the match this easily and England lost wickets in quick succession and they were not able to build any partnership and even in the first innings they failed to pick the tail end wickets of West Indies which gave them a substantial lead .

[Sithara007]

At one point in the first innings, West Indies was in terrible position as they were reduced to 128/7. But the partnership between Joshua Da Silva and Alzarri Joseph enabled them to reach a total of around 300. And this actually showed the inexperience and lack of variation from the England bowlers. Unfortunately, Chris Woakes, Craig Overton and Saqib Mahmood are no match for James Anderson and Stuart Broad. Dropping these two from the squad seems to have negatively impacted the performance of England.

[JSRAW]

If we leave few bilateral series then i hate to admit that your statement is true and i guess everyone know that, including ICC officials.

Having said that, in context of India. I would say that in last 5-6 years Test cricket popularity has only gone up due to Indian team success. Although BCCI still failed to pull crowd in stadium but its because of poor facilities and neglecting crowd pulling venue (Due to rotation policy, its related to hosting rights for the states).

Updated WTC point table

https://i.imgur.com/r93CSIc.jpg

India has rotation policy and that's best in the interest of country that every state get a chance to host international matches not just few states have that right. Sometimes you have to compromise on revenue to bring equality in the country. Between, till now I have a mindset that India has best venues in the world with adequate facilities.

Well, sometimes it's not about revenue. I was merely pointing out "Spectator experience" in the stands.

Yes, rotation policy helps states to hosts international match but imo Test match should be schedule in crowd pulling stadiums only, no matter what (Let's say fixed 7-10 stadiums, keep rotation policy for LOI) and make them at least decent for the spectators. Grounds has no problem but facilities sucks when catering the crowds for ex no shades when its hot, shitty food etc, state boards literally don't want to invest much energy in it.

T-20 and ODI experiences are satisfactory-excellent in India and worth every penny and IPL experience is amazing tho but it's only because of franchises but that's not the case with the Test format.

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Told ya.. Windies always play well against the Poms.

[galambo]

Well, sometimes it's not about revenue. I was merely pointing out "Spectator experience" in the stands.

Yes, rotation policy helps states to hosts international match but imo Test match should be schedule in crowd pulling stadiums only, no matter what (Let's say fixed 7-10 stadiums, keep rotation policy for LOI) and make them at least decent for the spectators. Grounds has no problem but facilities sucks when catering the crowds for ex no shades when its hot, shitty food etc, state boards literally don't want to invest much energy in it.

T-20 and ODI experiences are satisfactory-excellent in India and worth every penny and IPL experience is amazing tho but it's only because of franchises but that's not the case with the Test format.

Thanks for providing such info. IPL matches are also payed on same venues where international matches are held or you have separate stadiums for IPL? The stadiums look too good on TV specially Eden Gardens cricket ground in Kolkata. Indian are fond of cricket and even we see full pack stadium in Tests.

[Swordsoffreedom]

India has rotation policy and that's best in the interest of country that every state get a chance to host international matches not just few states have that right. Sometimes you have to compromise on revenue to bring equality in the country. Between, till now I have a mindset that India has best venues in the world with adequate facilities.

Well, sometimes it's not about revenue. I was merely pointing out "Spectator experience" in the stands.

Yes, rotation policy helps states to hosts international match but imo Test match should be schedule in crowd pulling stadiums only, no matter what (Let's say fixed 7-10 stadiums, keep rotation policy for LOI) and make them at least decent for the spectators. Grounds has no problem but facilities sucks when catering the crowds for ex no shades when its hot, shitty food etc, state boards literally don't want to invest much energy in it.

T-20 and ODI experiences are satisfactory-excellent in India and worth every penny and IPL experience is amazing tho but it's only because of franchises but that's not the case with the Test format.

People are not interested in test matches. By saying people, I mean fans and people with money. And test cricket is just not generating enough money for it to be interesting to even the cricket boards.

That's why it's understandable why test cricket is not getting enough help from the boards either. Almost all the cricket boards have realized that the future is ODI and t20 cricket and that's why they are making their squad for limited overs cricket.

[Iranus]

At one point in the first innings, West Indies was in terrible position as they were reduced to 128/7. But the partnership between Joshua Da Silva and Alzarri Joseph enabled them to reach a total of around 300. And this actually showed the inexperience and lack of variation from the England bowlers. Unfortunately, Chris Woakes, Craig Overton and Saqib Mahmood are no match for James Anderson and Stuart Broad. Dropping these two from the squad seems to have negatively impacted the performance of England.

I have to say I expected a lot better from England in the second innings. It's just not acceptable from a team like England to just be all out for so cheap. England just needed to hold on to their wickets and stay on the pitch, if the date that I think the runs would have come eventually but they failed to do so.

And it was an easy win for West Indies by 10 wickets. The highest individual runs for the whole England team in the second linings was 31 which is absolutely unbelievable.

[galambo]

I have to say I expected a lot better from England in the second innings. It's just not acceptable from a team like England to just be all out for so cheap. England just needed to hold on to their wickets and stay on the pitch, if the date that I think the runs would have come eventually but they failed to do so.

And it was an easy win for West Indies by 10 wickets. The highest individual runs for the whole England team in the second linings was 31 which is absolutely unbelievable.

England lost Ashes 4-0 but thats something understandable as they were aganest worlds best Test team. West Indies is not in good form these days and they lost to Ireland in recent ODI series 2-1. Everyone was expecting England to regain there form in this series but England lost both ODI and test series, this is a big worry sign for England.

[JSRAW]

India has rotation policy and that's best in the interest of country that every state get a chance to host international matches not just few states have that right. Sometimes you have to compromise on revenue to bring equality in the country. Between, till now I have a mindset that India has best venues in the world with adequate facilities.

Well, sometimes it's not about revenue. I was merely pointing out "Spectator experience" in the stands.

Yes, rotation policy helps states to hosts international match but imo Test match should be schedule in crowd pulling stadiums only, no matter what (Let's say fixed 7-10 stadiums, keep rotation policy for LOI) and make them at least decent for the spectators. Grounds has no problem but facilities sucks when catering the crowds for ex no shades when its hot, shitty food etc, state boards literally don't want to invest much energy in it.

T-20 and ODI experiences are satisfactory-excellent in India and worth every penny and IPL experience is amazing tho but it's only because of franchises but that's not the case with the Test format.

People are not interested in test matches. By saying people, I mean fans and people with money. And test cricket is just not generating enough money for it to be interesting to even the cricket boards.

That's why it's understandable why test cricket is not getting enough help from the boards either. Almost all the cricket boards have realized that the future is ODI and t20 cricket and that's why they are making their squad for limited overs cricket.

I was making point on "Spectator experience". Generating revenue and creating friendly environment for the spectators are 2 different things but anyway. As far as making money from the test cricket is concern. There are only 4 teams are earning enough money.

1. England
2. Australia
3. India
4. Every team if they are playing against India

BCCI generate enough money but watching cricket in India is nightmare when comparing to SENA countries. NZ lose revenue every time they play test cricket but they provide top notch facilities. I understand per capita income is higher in SENA countries so not expecting similar experience in India but still BCCI can at least try to make some sort of effort for the audience.

[dezoel]

England lost Ashes 4-0 but thats something understandable as they were aganest worlds best Test team. West Indies is not in good form these days and they lost to Ireland in recent ODI series 2-1. Everyone was expecting England to regain there form in this series but England lost both ODI and test series, this is a big worry sign for England.

England now lost their last 5 test matches from 8 which is the worst for them and now many old legendary players are rising their voices about this all, but today I read Root is still consisting he will not leave captaincy even it's not good from him, but we can't talk about this. So, now playing in away matches is never been easy for any team and West Indies is currently the weakest team in test cricket, but England is also in the same category just because of their tactics and selection policy.

Even now many voices are talking about their all system which need to be big changes if they want to grow again, but it's not easy it needs some good and long policy hopefully now after having these the worst results their management will think about this and try to bring some better and quality talent even these could be from mostly Asian connection because it's now also big concern they are not bringing some good number of talented players those are from settled families which need to change.