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June 18, 2021, 02:20:29 PM
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I also put my bet on the Philippines to win and cover that high spread. I just want something to enjoy while watching the game and I cannot allow no-bet for this game. lol.



Good luck to the Philippines and to my bet.  Grin

Congrats on the win bro, that's pretty close. It's just in the fourth quarter did the Gilas pulled away from Indonesia, what a thrilling game if you watched it live and made that kind of bet.

I did not bet for them right now as my confidence for Gilas in this tournament is low, I mean they can win against Indonesia but not a blowout win, thanks God I'm wrong hehe.

Next stop would be a rematch against South Korea, I think the odds would be close and if you are a Gilas hater, good time to bet lol.

Thank you, my heart was pumping while I was watching the game, I really thought my bet would not cover because Indonesia was still scoring, but the good thing the 4th quarter big run really help. I already have 2-0 win betting on the Philippines, I'll continue to bet on them as they are in a hot streak now.

Here's my first win.

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June 18, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
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I also put my bet on the Philippines to win and cover that high spread. I just want something to enjoy while watching the game and I cannot allow no-bet for this game. lol.



Good luck to the Philippines and to my bet.  Grin

Congrats on the win bro, that's pretty close. It's just in the fourth quarter did the Gilas pulled away from Indonesia, what a thrilling game if you watched it live and made that kind of bet.

I did not bet for them right now as my confidence for Gilas in this tournament is low, I mean they can win against Indonesia but not a blowout win, thanks God I'm wrong hehe.

Next stop would be a rematch against South Korea, I think the odds would be close and if you are a Gilas hater, good time to bet lol.

Thank you, my heart was pumping while I was watching the game, I really thought my bet would not cover because Indonesia was still scoring, but the good thing the 4th quarter big run really help. I already have 2-0 win betting on the Philippines, I'll continue to bet on them as they are in a hot streak now.

Here's my first win.



Wow! how lucky you are believing with Gilas cadets, I was thinking that since this young guns still
new to each other It will hard for them to blend together,

But It was a mistake and now they are really performing, the win over Korea was intense it should be
a sure win if that last FT went in as the lead will extend to 4, luckily that hail Mary 3 point shot went in and PH win with that miracle.

Congrats Gilas and Congrats to you!
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June 18, 2021, 07:57:16 PM
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Actually, I was thinking that it's better if they've got some PBA veterans on their boat to lead them inside the court. But I think outside coaching is way better than playing with them. These young guys really can play well and can compete and I hope that for the next games that they've got, they're going to be consistent and will have those wins. I'm also proud and got hyped when I've watched that last shot, that was really a truly amazing shot and can be said as a miracle shot in a very crucial match.

They respect their coach and they have chemistry, these are young players, most of them are single I believe so their full focus is on the sport. It's also an opportunity for them to play for the country, usually this kind of opportunity is given to the stars of the PBA, but this time they got it.
Yes, that's the typical setup for the Gilas. They're only getting those superstars from the NBA but having the chance to break that norm and making a team that's not fully reliant on the PBA, is a good test for the Gilas Pilipinas so that they'll have to compare the results and there's also an opportunity and chance for the new players that are also competitive. The current roster of Gilas is also strong but cannot be compared to the past ones. I just wish that this is going to be the team that will be qualified and will have a long run in this tournament.

It's good to try different approach in terms of collecting players and give som good opportunities with newbies. They might not that strong compared to the Gilas that we used to love,

But the chance are equal if they'll do well, though it was mention that it's isn't the final list once the qualifiers are already done, changes with players to play are  very possible, re-enforcement from international players, those half breeds are expected to happen plus those superstars from PBA is also there for finalization of Gilas squad.

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June 18, 2021, 08:54:19 PM
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Actually, I was thinking that it's better if they've got some PBA veterans on their boat to lead them inside the court. But I think outside coaching is way better than playing with them. These young guys really can play well and can compete and I hope that for the next games that they've got, they're going to be consistent and will have those wins. I'm also proud and got hyped when I've watched that last shot, that was really a truly amazing shot and can be said as a miracle shot in a very crucial match.

They respect their coach and they have chemistry, these are young players, most of them are single I believe so their full focus is on the sport. It's also an opportunity for them to play for the country, usually this kind of opportunity is given to the stars of the PBA, but this time they got it.
Yes, that's the typical setup for the Gilas. They're only getting those superstars from the NBA but having the chance to break that norm and making a team that's not fully reliant on the PBA, is a good test for the Gilas Pilipinas so that they'll have to compare the results and there's also an opportunity and chance for the new players that are also competitive. The current roster of Gilas is also strong but cannot be compared to the past ones. I just wish that this is going to be the team that will be qualified and will have a long run in this tournament.

It's good to try different approach in terms of collecting players and give som good opportunities with newbies. They might not that strong compared to the Gilas that we used to love,

But the chance are equal if they'll do well, though it was mention that it's isn't the final list once the qualifiers are already done, changes with players to play are  very possible, re-enforcement from international players, those half breeds are expected to happen plus those superstars from PBA is also there for finalization of Gilas squad.

That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

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June 18, 2021, 09:06:25 PM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

I agree to that, Kai improved a lot and he's playing big time. If he continue to play healhty with his young age for sure if ever he won't made it to NBA there are many offers outside,

Hopefully the future of each players open up the door for more competitive salaries, PBA stars needs to see how this young guns manage to win with a great pride.

Looking forward for more Kai's highlights during this FIBA games.

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June 18, 2021, 09:51:55 PM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

I agree to that, Kai improved a lot and he's playing big time. If he continue to play healhty with his young age for sure if ever he won't made it to NBA there are many offers outside,

Hopefully the future of each players open up the door for more competitive salaries, PBA stars needs to see how this young guns manage to win with a great pride.

Looking forward for more Kai's highlights during this FIBA games.

His "Hook shot" technique is very effective, with his height, no one could block that, and not only on the offense, but he is also playing well in the offense grabbing the rebounds and blocking shots, we don't have that kind of athletic center in the past.

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June 18, 2021, 10:06:35 PM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

I agree to that, Kai improved a lot and he's playing big time. If he continue to play healhty with his young age for sure if ever he won't made it to NBA there are many offers outside,

Hopefully the future of each players open up the door for more competitive salaries, PBA stars needs to see how this young guns manage to win with a great pride.

Looking forward for more Kai's highlights during this FIBA games.

His "Hook shot" technique is very effective, with his height, no one could block that, and not only on the offense, but he is also playing well in the offense grabbing the rebounds and blocking shots, we don't have that kind of athletic center in the past.
He may be young and have a limited experience playing on FIBA games, we can see his composure, his desire to play and his talent has improve a lot, KAI is one of our best player. We have a better future because of these young players, hopefully no more PBA players because they are not competent anymore, and let this young people
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June 18, 2021, 10:45:18 PM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

I agree to that, Kai improved a lot and he's playing big time. If he continue to play healhty with his young age for sure if ever he won't made it to NBA there are many offers outside,

Hopefully the future of each players open up the door for more competitive salaries, PBA stars needs to see how this young guns manage to win with a great pride.

Looking forward for more Kai's highlights during this FIBA games.
PBA starts are getting older now, we have these young generation for the future of basketball and I believe the PBA commission are too strict and some players are not allowed to participate on international games or league. Anyway, with regards to KAI, he has a good experience abroad and that result to a great player though he’s still young and he still need experience since FIBA is totally different.
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June 18, 2021, 10:50:58 PM
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Yes, that's the typical setup for the Gilas. They're only getting those superstars from the NBA but having the chance to break that norm and making a team that's not fully reliant on the PBA, is a good test for the Gilas Pilipinas so that they'll have to compare the results and there's also an opportunity and chance for the new players that are also competitive. The current roster of Gilas is also strong but cannot be compared to the past ones. I just wish that this is going to be the team that will be qualified and will have a long run in this tournament.

It's good to try different approach in terms of collecting players and give som good opportunities with newbies. They might not that strong compared to the Gilas that we used to love,

But the chance are equal if they'll do well, though it was mention that it's isn't the final list once the qualifiers are already done, changes with players to play are  very possible, re-enforcement from international players, those half breeds are expected to happen plus those superstars from PBA is also there for finalization of Gilas squad.
Yeah, I appreciate the change and different approach the Gilas management did for their roster. These are the aspiring players that we will watch in different leagues, locally and internationally. As long as these players have already competed and played during their past matches, they should count them in and there's no change with those players as they lock them to the roster even if there will be another change. Those are only the additional players but there's no replacement that shall happen. I hope that's going to be their main rule.

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June 19, 2021, 12:22:32 AM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.

I agree to that, Kai improved a lot and he's playing big time. If he continue to play healhty with his young age for sure if ever he won't made it to NBA there are many offers outside,

Hopefully the future of each players open up the door for more competitive salaries, PBA stars needs to see how this young guns manage to win with a great pride.

Looking forward for more Kai's highlights during this FIBA games.
PBA starts are getting older now, we have these young generation for the future of basketball and I believe the PBA commission are too strict and some players are not allowed to participate on international games or league. Anyway, with regards to KAI, he has a good experience abroad and that result to a great player though he’s still young and he still need experience since FIBA is totally different.
This is like a training ground with this young guns now for them to improve more in the future but I guess the roster will be updated again once the Asia Cup is nearing. I think they still need some veteran in this category and for them to learn more from their guidance, I wouldn't think it will be all full blown young prodigies.
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June 19, 2021, 10:01:40 AM
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That was our first impression, they are not strong but in reality, they are. They would not win against South Korea if this team is not strong, they maybe are young but the Gilas now are composed of talented guys, and having a tall Center like Kai Sotto is a blessing for them, he even looks better than Fajardo in terms of performance in the FIBA.
Many are saying that they aren't strong because of these 2 things:
1. They are very young players (average of 22 Yrs. Old) and because of that, they don't have experience in some professional basketball leagues like the FIBA or the PBA itself.
2. They didn't have any chance to at least have a game with other countries (like a scrimmage just to have more experience). Most of the time they are just practicing themselves.

In reality, they will not win against SoKor if they didn't have a good chemistry and at the same time a good coach. The future of Gilas is very bright with these young and talented players. I believe though that this experience will help them to shape to be a better one in the future.

On the other hand, I saw a video on Youtube saying that the win of Gilas against South Korea was just a luck. The Coach of SoKor said that we just won because of luck because we have the buzzer beater that made Gilas win and quality. What are your takeaways with this?

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June 19, 2021, 10:13:56 AM
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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley

This is like a training ground with this young guns now for them to improve more in the future but I guess the roster will be updated again once the Asia Cup is nearing.

Yes. That would be the best training ground that those youngsters will experience - international competition.

I think this is the first time that the full lineup of Gilas was composed of young guns for FIBA qualifiers, correct me if I'm wrong though.


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June 19, 2021, 01:15:34 PM
Last edit: June 19, 2021, 01:30:58 PM by Maslate
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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley

This is like a training ground with this young guns now for them to improve more in the future but I guess the roster will be updated again once the Asia Cup is nearing.

Yes. That would be the best training ground that those youngsters will experience - international competition.

I think this is the first time that the full lineup of Gilas was composed of young guns for FIBA qualifiers, correct me if I'm wrong though.



Anyone here wants to bet on the Philippines to win?

The betting line is already available, Philippines is +6.5 in this game, but if you will bet on the moneyline, you will get +300 or x3 of your bet.

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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley

This is like a training ground with this young guns now for them to improve more in the future but I guess the roster will be updated again once the Asia Cup is nearing.

Yes. That would be the best training ground that those youngsters will experience - international competition.

I think this is the first time that the full lineup of Gilas was composed of young guns for FIBA qualifiers, correct me if I'm wrong though.



Anyone here wants to bet on the Philippines to win?

The betting line is already available, Philippines is +6.5 in this game, but if you will bet on the moneyline, you will get +300 or x3 of your bet.


It's too early to put a bet, the game will be tomorrow so I guess I'll spend more time analyzing if it's really good to take the bet or not. Philipines is undefeated, SoKor lost once from the come-back win of the Philippines, I think they'll play harder this time to beat the Philippines.

However, since i'm a Filipino, I'm also thinking of supporting the players, so I will beat on them.

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June 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM
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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley

This is like a training ground with this young guns now for them to improve more in the future but I guess the roster will be updated again once the Asia Cup is nearing.

Yes. That would be the best training ground that those youngsters will experience - international competition.

I think this is the first time that the full lineup of Gilas was composed of young guns for FIBA qualifiers, correct me if I'm wrong though.



Anyone here wants to bet on the Philippines to win?

The betting line is already available, Philippines is +6.5 in this game, but if you will bet on the moneyline, you will get +300 or x3 of your bet.


It's too early to put a bet, the game will be tomorrow so I guess I'll spend more time analyzing if it's really good to take the bet or not. Philipines is undefeated, SoKor lost once from the come-back win of the Philippines, I think they'll play harder this time to beat the Philippines.

However, since i'm a Filipino, I'm also thinking of supporting the players, so I will beat on them.

According to the scheduled seen in my sportsbook, the game will start at 3:00 PM in the afternoon, Philippine time, so there's still plenty of time to analyze the game abut I suggest you take it simple, just follow the "PUSO", and believe that Gilas will beat the South Korea twice.

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June 19, 2021, 10:36:49 PM
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The betting line is already available, Philippines is +6.5 in this game, but if you will bet on the moneyline, you will get +300 or x3 of your bet.

+6.5 for the Phillippines is a good pick. I know South Korea is a dominant team since then against the PH but referring to their last game, PH young players can do the same competition as in their first match.

If ever South Korean will win, but I don't like it, of course, I'm seeing their lead is just around less than 5 because of the close game so I think handicap +6.5 is a good pick. I didn't check yet the available odds but if by chance, I will pick that bet.

Moneyline @3 is also a good pick. I will disregard anything about South Koreans and I will pick based on my favorites.
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June 20, 2021, 02:35:13 AM
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The betting line is already available, Philippines is +6.5 in this game, but if you will bet on the moneyline, you will get +300 or x3 of your bet.

+6.5 for the Phillippines is a good pick. I know South Korea is a dominant team since then against the PH but referring to their last game, PH young players can do the same competition as in their first match.

If ever South Korean will win, but I don't like it, of course, I'm seeing their lead is just around less than 5 because of the close game so I think handicap +6.5 is a good pick. I didn't check yet the available odds but if by chance, I will pick that bet.

Moneyline @3 is also a good pick. I will disregard anything about South Koreans and I will pick based on my favorites.

ML is good as PH Gilas can do the same and have a better look playing against the Koreans. We've seen that game previously where
our young guns really played well and push everything to their limits.

That handicap is also good if you are not that type of risky bettor, chances of close games will assure you to win the bet.

Good luck Gilas bring another win and compete with the Heart!

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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley
The game is on and as of checking it right now, it's Q2 and the score is close to each other. Ph 32 - SK 31. I've looked for some streams on YT but to no avail. If you guys want to watch it right now and you're not on television, just search for some streams on FB. Some pages are streaming the game and it's all up to you if you're going to support those streams. For me, I just want to watch the game.
I'll update this post later once the game ended and I wish that Gilas will still win this rematch and it's going to be clean!
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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley
The game is on and as of checking it right now, it's Q2 and the score is close to each other. Ph 32 - SK 31. I've looked for some streams on YT but to no avail. If you guys want to watch it right now and you're not on television, just search for some streams on FB. Some pages are streaming the game and it's all up to you if you're going to support those streams. For me, I just want to watch the game.
I'll update this post later once the game ended and I wish that Gilas will still win this rematch and it's going to be clean!
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I was not able to watch the game, I was busy today but I'm happy that the Philippines have won twice against the South Korea team. It's not luck anymore, what we witnessed is their real skills, they are just underestimated and South Korea might have regret when they said Philippines only won by luck.

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June 20, 2021, 01:36:56 PM
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I was not able to watch the game, I was busy today but I'm happy that the Philippines have won twice against the South Korea team. It's not luck anymore, what we witnessed is their real skills, they are just underestimated and South Korea might have regret when they said Philippines only won by luck.

This batch of Gilas cadets has a very bright future in terms of representing the Philippines in the FIBA competition. Personally, I was thinking that their first win against South Korea is a mix of talent and luck hehe.

If I'm not wrong this batch of cadets has the highest height average and most of them are athletic enough to defend the Koreans bombardment in the three-point area.

And we should not also forgot the coaching staff who orchestrated all the plays that made this win possible, especially to coach Tab Baldwin.
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