Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

Nobody here has yet pointed out that FUCKIN FINALLY they did a random sample antibody test as I said weeks ago was necessary before doing any kind of analysis on so-called 'covid-19'.

Results?  Even more people than I predicted are over and done with this thing.  Like in the neighborhood of 50 TIMES more (not 'percent' more) people have had the bug than the official figures we get on mainstream media all the time.

and tvbcof will cry when he realises that 90% havnt even had it yet and this thing is going to go on for months and months.

for 99% of americans to have had it between late january-mid march..would reqiure an r0 never ever seen before

what he doesnt realise is the r0 is 2.6 which if isolations after 2 months, would be low population contracting it. but by low population % is still massive amount of physical numbers

doesnt he get it yet 700k positive US out of 320mill is not even 1%
heck even if 700k represents just 20% showing symptoms.. meaning 80% symptomless.. its still only 1% of full US population getting it

also does he not realise the 100k a day testing.. is 3200 days to test everyone.
if they ramp it up to 1m a day testing thats still 320days to test everyone

[squatz1]

The Hill is now reporting that the Trump admin, and Congress have reached a deal on providing more funds to the Paycheck protection loan -- to the tune of another $320B -- and some additional money to other relief efforts.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493910-white-house-congress-reach-deal-to-replenish-small-business-loan

They've made a deal, now they're going to try to pass everything in both chambers by voice vote / UC to get it done fast. For those that don't know, the Paycheck Protection Loan will pay for an employers payroll expenses from Feb 15th to June 30th multiplied by 2.5x and you have to spend 75 percent of the money on payroll expenses (the rest can be spent on rent, mortgage, utilities, and some other operating expenses)

[franky1]

here is the funny thing.
if government think the virus is all over and business as usual in a couple weeks. then why need paycheck protection for the next year.. hmm

are people wising up yet that this just the first wave and they planning a year of waves
why do you think they are still making ventilators and needing tests if its all over
why do you think they are still expanding hospital capacity..

wake up

[squatz1]

here is the funny thing.
if government think the virus is all over and business as usual in a couple weeks. then why need paycheck protection for the next year.. hmm

are people wising up yet that this just the first wave and they planning a year of waves
why do you think they are still making ventilators and needing tests if its all over
why do you think they are still expanding hospital capacity..

wake up

I mean it is until June 30th, so they do think that they're going to need this until June 30th at a minimum. If it needs to get extended, it TOTALLY will be extended. They've already got more money allocated to the program and if businesses continue to complain about not getting money yet THEY'RE TOTALLY GOING TO GET MORE.

Small businesses are going to remember this no doubt.

I don't think this is going to be done in a month or two, I think this is going to be done by the end of the summer maybe even more depending on where we're at with testing, vaccines, and if people are (or not) listening to social distancing. Crazy times ahead.

[Gyfts]

Look at this hilarious remark by Trump during today's press conference, clip is time stamped - https://youtu.be/nQKtZrtGJ2s?t=3639 and lasts until 1:01:27

It's amazing how Trump almost let's classified information slip about the origin of the coronavirus lmao. He all but said that it originated in a Wuhan lab. He definitely knows.

[BADecker]

here is the funny thing.
if government think the virus is all over and business as usual in a couple weeks. then why need paycheck protection for the next year.. hmm

are people wising up yet that this just the first wave and they planning a year of waves
why do you think they are still making ventilators and needing tests if its all over
why do you think they are still expanding hospital capacity..

wake up

I mean it is until June 30th, so they do think that they're going to need this until June 30th at a minimum. If it needs to get extended, it TOTALLY will be extended. They've already got more money allocated to the program and if businesses continue to complain about not getting money yet THEY'RE TOTALLY GOING TO GET MORE.

Small businesses are going to remember this no doubt.

I don't think this is going to be done in a month or two, I think this is going to be done by the end of the summer maybe even more depending on where we're at with testing, vaccines, and if people are (or not) listening to social distancing. Crazy times ahead.

Here are some reasons why it might be done a whole lot sooner than anybody thinks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240262.msg54272761#msg54272761

[TECSHARE]

"Journalists CAUGHT On hot Mic Claiming COVID Mortality Is Way Low And You Dont Need A Mask"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7J2u_YHlE


"REPORT: Sweden Ignored Coronavirus Fears, Kept Economy Open, Yet Has A Mortality Rate Similar To America’s"

https://dcwhispers.com/report-sweden-ignored-coronavirus-fears-kept-economy-open-yet-has-a-mortality-rate-similar-to-americas/


"New Jersey Woman Charged With Plotting to Violate Governor's Stay-at-Home Order"

https://pjmedia.com/trending/new-jersey-woman-charged-with-plotting-to-violate-governors-stay-at-home-order/


"Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say? "

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

[franky1]

"REPORT: Sweden Ignored Coronavirus Fears, Kept Economy Open, Yet Has A Mortality Rate Similar To America’s"

https://dcwhispers.com/report-sweden-ignored-coronavirus-fears-kept-economy-open-yet-has-a-mortality-rate-similar-to-americas/

guess what.
while debunking badeckers concern for why where he lives he doesnt have same freedoms as sweden.. i went and checked
and guess what
arizona's farmers markets are still open. the people of arizona can still play golf.
yep they can still play golf. just like sweden
businesses can still run. all thats been asked is to act smart and use common sense to avoid touching random people as much as possible and stay at a safe social distance.

so yea if badecker is free to play golf and go to a market.. seems he has the same freedoms as sweden

[squatz1]

here is the funny thing.
if government think the virus is all over and business as usual in a couple weeks. then why need paycheck protection for the next year.. hmm

are people wising up yet that this just the first wave and they planning a year of waves
why do you think they are still making ventilators and needing tests if its all over
why do you think they are still expanding hospital capacity..

wake up

I mean it is until June 30th, so they do think that they're going to need this until June 30th at a minimum. If it needs to get extended, it TOTALLY will be extended. They've already got more money allocated to the program and if businesses continue to complain about not getting money yet THEY'RE TOTALLY GOING TO GET MORE.

Small businesses are going to remember this no doubt.

I don't think this is going to be done in a month or two, I think this is going to be done by the end of the summer maybe even more depending on where we're at with testing, vaccines, and if people are (or not) listening to social distancing. Crazy times ahead.

Here are some reasons why it might be done a whole lot sooner than anybody thinks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240262.msg54272761#msg54272761

Yeah no.

If this is over sooner then we're expecting it to be, it's because we were able to successfully flatten the curve by stopping infections from hitting new highs every single day. It probably means that people were following rules regarding social distancing and rules regarding wearing masks when they're in public regarding social distancing. Further, testing has to be phenominal which it isn't yet -- it's getting there, but it isn't fully there yet.

Vaccine could be out by this point, but who knows. Many companies jumping in on that right now -- I know Moderna is one of the companies that stock has went highflying due to them getting money from the Gov for more Coronavirus cure research.

[Tash]

Hope you all reside in country with a function health system

World	Died per Million		China neighbours	Died per Million
San Marino	1179		Russia	3
Belgium	518		Kazakhstan	1
Andora	479		Kyrgyzstan	1
Spain	455		Afghanistan	0.9
Italy	408		Pakistan	0.9
France	319		India	0.5
UK	255		Myanmar	0.09
Netherlands	229		Bhutan	0
Switzerland	171		Laos	0
Ireland	148		Mongolia	0
US	137		Nepal	0
Iran	63		Tajikistan	0
Canada	49		Vietnam	0
Brazil	13		North Korea	0
China	3		---
Australia	3		Hong Kong	0.5
S. Africa	1		Taiwan	0.3
Ethiopia	0.03		Macao	0

[franky1]

Yeah no.

If this is over sooner then we're expecting it to be, it's because we were able to successfully flatten the curve by stopping infections from hitting new highs every single day. It probably means that people were following rules regarding social distancing and rules regarding wearing masks when they're in public regarding social distancing. Further, testing has to be phenominal which it isn't yet -- it's getting there, but it isn't fully there yet.

Vaccine could be out by this point, but who knows. Many companies jumping in on that right now -- I know Moderna is one of the companies that stock has went highflying due to them getting money from the Gov for more Coronavirus cure research.

flattening the curve is not about destroying the virus in 3-6 weeks
its about reducing contact so less people get it as fast so less people go to hospital as fast

once people start mingling again a new wave begins

take badeckers homestate. it has not been hit hard by it YET. they done 55k tests and only 5k positive.
out of 7million people in arizona. just shows that arizona is at the start of the storm

the most funny part is badecker is shouting loudly how his freedoms are infringed. yet by reading his posts he is claiming this based on youtube videos of faux news reporting in hotzones. badecker has not seen the real reality of his local area that entered social distance while numbers were low and didnt actually implement tough restrictions due to the low numbers so far.

this entering lockdown while numbers are low means with his 0.x% contagion spread. he wil keep having many waves of in and out of social distance/isolation requirements before 100%

but baecker can still play golf which should be news to him because he thought only sweden had that advantage.. not realising the very state he lives in has that too

yes badecker i said it a few times now.
if you done some actual research you would have realised you can play golf too. so no need to be jealous of sweden

[BADecker]

here is the funny thing.
if government think the virus is all over and business as usual in a couple weeks. then why need paycheck protection for the next year.. hmm

are people wising up yet that this just the first wave and they planning a year of waves
why do you think they are still making ventilators and needing tests if its all over
why do you think they are still expanding hospital capacity..

wake up

I mean it is until June 30th, so they do think that they're going to need this until June 30th at a minimum. If it needs to get extended, it TOTALLY will be extended. They've already got more money allocated to the program and if businesses continue to complain about not getting money yet THEY'RE TOTALLY GOING TO GET MORE.

Small businesses are going to remember this no doubt.

I don't think this is going to be done in a month or two, I think this is going to be done by the end of the summer maybe even more depending on where we're at with testing, vaccines, and if people are (or not) listening to social distancing. Crazy times ahead.

Here are some reasons why it might be done a whole lot sooner than anybody thinks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240262.msg54272761#msg54272761

Yeah no.

If this is over sooner then we're expecting it to be, it's because we were able to successfully flatten the curve by stopping infections from hitting new highs every single day. It probably means that people were following rules regarding social distancing and rules regarding wearing masks when they're in public regarding social distancing. Further, testing has to be phenominal which it isn't yet -- it's getting there, but it isn't fully there yet.

Vaccine could be out by this point, but who knows. Many companies jumping in on that right now -- I know Moderna is one of the companies that stock has went highflying due to them getting money from the Gov for more Coronavirus cure research.

You are right if Coronavirus is the problem. But the testing for CV and Covid-19 is still inconclusive. It all has to do with what people want to believe, not what the KNOW.

Or do you have some proof somewhere?

[nutildah]

Bottoms up, lads.

[tvbcof]

Bottoms up, lads.

I know for a fact that someone with no medical training can, in an afternoon with a search engine, discover that a 'professional neurologist with 30 years experience' is OD'ing ones father on extremely powerful drugs and he is suffering the classic signs of OD on said.  I got my father to a different hospital, his 'Parkinsons' diagnosis was thrown in the trash, he got off the drugs which were rather quickly killing him, and got on to recovering from his stroke.

There were two possibilities here:  1) The bitch doctor was trying to kill my father, 2) she didn't have a clue about what she was doing.

A person of reasonable IQ and background can easily eclipse an average doctor in a narrow range of study.  Just like a doctor can easily learn some 'hello world' program in an obscure programming language which nearly no computer programmer knows.

Doctors are not Gods and anyone who claims to be is probably not a very trustworthy doctor and one that should be avoided.  Probably the minimum IQ needed to get through med school is 125 or so, but mostly what one needs is a good memory.  That often comes at the expense of skills needed to be a good scientist and a lot of doctors are woefully lacking in the skills necessary to think outside of the box they were trained within.

Even more devastating, most doctors are not keen to sacrifice their careers and they are completely constrained within a very corrupt web of captured trade organizations, hospitals, regulators, etc.  That is even more true with extreme energy put into this 'covid-19' psy-op where going against the wishes of the operational design is even less well tolerated than at normal times.

[BADecker]

Bottoms up, lads.

Exactly, precisely the point!

Regarding Coronavirus, there are three things the doctors know:
1. A few of them know all about Coronavirus;
2. Many of them know a little about viruses, but are trusting the few;
3. That in some cases, they are lying, or at least are stretching the facts.

What I want to know ISN'T the details about CV and viruses, except in a general way.

What I want to know IS about the truthfulness of the doctors, and where they got their knowledge that they seem to have... in all of it, both the viruses, and the pandemic authorization.

The only way to prove it is by jury trial in a court of law. In this case, because the effects are so far-reaching, it should be many courts of law... with multiple professional debaters questioning expert witnesses, all under oath, with a penalty of 20 years to execution for lying.

[DireWolfM14]

It seems like every week or so we learn something that exposes how little we know.  Yesterday I heard a news report about Los Angeles doing antibody testing, which suggests that over 4% of the population has had Covid-19.  If the report is accurate it's actually good news, not bad.  If true, then it suggests that up to 400k people in LA county have had it, recovered, and are now immune.  It also suggests that our "confirmed" cases are under estimated, and perhaps our mitigation efforts are too little too late.

Unfortunately, we don't know what we don't know, and taking risks to learn during this critical time means risking people's lives. 

[franky1]

what IS known:
1. covid19 is not the standard flu strain. - RNA, blood,mucus, CT scans Xrays, and other issues/symptoms show its new
2. covid19 inhaled initially triggers the respiratory symptoms.
3. getting it on your hands and then food and then ingesting it causes the multiple organ issues that also have ACE2 receptors
4.
5. the r0 of 2.6 = a 9 month population runthrough unhindered. but delayed in the first 3 months cuts short the runthrough of the masses.
6. even with the delayed spread due to isolations. hospitals got very busy and needed doctors from departments that didnt specialise in viral effects. and these doctors do make mistakes.
7.this is why its so important to not risk getting it when hospitals are busy. because you wont get the top care you would expect.
8.this is why its important to delay the spread to not risk peoples health more by not being able to offer top quality care.
9. due to the delay of spread the percentage contracting it thus far is low. meaning expect bigger waves later. or exepect countries to adopt 'contact tracing' to isolate the contagious/sick, to keep the contagion delayed whch means it can be 2 years before full spread
10. just letting it loose might seem ok at month zero where 50->130 the next week. (80 extra isnt bad) but at month 4 where 1.8m turns to 4.7m in just a week (2.9mill extra sick) will swamp hospitals
there just aint 4.7m beds

[TECSHARE]

It seems like every week or so we learn something that exposes how little we know.  Yesterday I heard a news report about Los Angeles doing antibody testing, which suggests that over 4% of the population has had Covid-19.  If the report is accurate it's actually good news, not bad.  If true, then it suggests that up to 400k people in LA county have had it, recovered, and are now immune.  It also suggests that our "confirmed" cases are under estimated, and perhaps our mitigation efforts are too little too late.

Unfortunately, we don't know what we don't know, and taking risks to learn during this critical time means risking people's lives. 

You missed the most important implication of this study, that it is an order of magnitude less lethal than projected, by a factor of at least 10 times, making that particular strain only slightly more lethal than the flu.

[BADecker]

what IS known:
1. covid19 is not the standard flu strain. - RNA, blood,mucus, CT scans Xrays, and other issues/symptoms show its new
2. covid19 inhaled initially triggers the respiratory symptoms.
3. getting it on your hands and then food and then ingesting it causes the multiple organ issues that also have ACE2 receptors
4.
5. the r0 of 2.6 = a 9 month population runthrough unhindered. but delayed in the first 3 months cuts short the runthrough of the masses.
6. even with the delayed spread due to isolations. hospitals got very busy and needed doctors from departments that didnt specialise in viral effects. and these doctors do make mistakes.
7.this is why its so important to not risk getting it when hospitals are busy. because you wont get the top care you would expect.
8.this is why its important to delay the spread to not risk peoples health more by not being able to offer top quality care.
9. due to the delay of spread the percentage contracting it thus far is low. meaning expect bigger waves later. or exepect countries to adopt 'contact tracing' to isolate the contagious/sick, to keep the contagion delayed whch means it can be 2 years before full spread
10. just letting it loose might seem ok at month zero where 50->130 the next week. (80 extra isnt bad) but at month 4 where 1.8m turns to 4.7m in just a week (2.9mill extra sick) will swamp hospitals
there just aint 4.7m beds

No proof? If you can't show anybody the proof, you are simply talking science fiction.

Proof:
- test reports
- people in the tests
- locations of the reports where we can get certified and verified copies by mail
- names and addresses doctors willing to get on the stand and explain the difference between the various viruses
- and how they can tell the differences
- a whole lot more.

NOT a bunch of your slobber about your science fiction ideas.

[franky1]

check your own states website
they even narrow down the outbreeak down to the zip code of where the patients live

heck they even explain the lab test analysis process

yep YOUR OWN STATES WEBSITE
meaning you can contact people living near YOU who can provide you with all the info you want

have a nice day

now lets just wait for your replies of how you are going to be ignorant, silly, foolish, lazy, idiotic about why you wont bother looking for it

yea i already predicted if i sowed you info from sources i found near me you would brush them off that they are UK based so you wont bother validating it.. so you cant se that excuse with your own state.. its not that far. the phonecalls are cheap. the fuel is cheap. so you have no excuses left