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July 31, 2012, 03:44:28 PM |
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Lots of ramble and speculation
Please, can we allow this thread to stay on the topic of Statement about the suspect of recent Bitcoinica hack? Thank you very much.
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July 31, 2012, 03:44:44 PM |
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Actually there is. While ZT at least tries to pay back the funds, the overall impression from mlawrence (and a few others) is that he tries to prevent exactly this from happening. Now the only one in the world that does not like a payback to happen is the actually thief himself, so...
... that's why ZT has only returned 15k of the 40k bitcoins he has stolen? Maybe he did not steal this himself, but somebody else, lets call him Chen, did it, and ZT takes time to get it back? Chen exists no where except in Zhou's mind.
Right now only Zhou knows for sure, if Chen really exists, so your knowledge would prove that you are Zhou
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July 31, 2012, 03:45:11 PM |
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I have a feeling Mr. Tong is going to default on this. Is there any evidence that there is enough funds to cover all the claims?
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July 31, 2012, 03:46:57 PM |
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I have a feeling Mr. Tong is going to default on this. Is there any evidence that there is enough funds to cover all the claims?
Zhou is actually his surname. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81581.0
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July 31, 2012, 03:48:01 PM |
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.
1. Attack Zhou Tong based on little evidence 2. When Zhou Tong says he's feeling like a victim, blame him more 3. Zhou Tong produces proof, deny the proof 4. Produce falsifiable evidence, deny falsifiability 5. Continue attacking the victim despite calls to stop
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July 31, 2012, 03:48:47 PM |
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1. Attack Zhou Tong based on little evidence
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95738.0(I know this wont change your mind - but I post it for future readers who find this through a search engine)
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July 31, 2012, 03:52:17 PM |
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Do you think I could possibly have missed that? It being the single point of attack for all my arguments? In response, I post this equally likely and more credible response: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.0But I know: it won't change your mind.
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July 31, 2012, 03:52:30 PM |
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http://www.dustincurtis.com/about.htmlI live in San Francisco and New York City. I like sushi, the sky, and the brain. I want to become a better writer. From the guy who tried to sell lifepath.me on eBay and which Zhou Tong owns. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=140610305563&nma=true&rt=nc&si=mAWggEYKpH4g2H7aZLAFESK6gGA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_3383wt_1185Domain ID:D1520284-ME Domain Name:LIFEPATH.ME Domain Create Date:13-Oct-2010 11:46:24 UTC Domain Last Updated Date:18-Jul-2012 21:00:03 UTC Domain Expiration Date:13-Oct-2013 11:46:24 UTC Last Transferred Date:19-May-2012 17:43:57 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:eNom Inc R32-ME Created by:GoDaddy.com, LLC R41-ME Last Updated by Registrar:Afilias R54-ME Domain Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:876c8456f832ebd1 Registrant Name:Tong Zhou Registrant Organization:Zhou Tong Registrant Address:PO Box 465 Registrant Address2: Registrant Address3: Registrant City:Carlton South Registrant State/Province:VIC Registrant Country/Economy:AU Registrant Postal Code:3053 Registrant Phone:+61.390157926 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant E-mail:domain@zhoutong.com Admin ID:876c8456f832ebd1 Admin Name:Tong Zhou Admin Organization:Zhou Tong Admin Address:PO Box 465 Admin Address2: Admin Address3: Admin City:Carlton South Admin State/Province:VIC Admin Country/Economy:AU Admin Postal Code:3053 Admin Phone:+61.390157926 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin E-mail:domain@zhoutong.com Tech ID:876c8456f832ebd1 Tech Name:Tong Zhou Tech Organization:Zhou Tong Tech Address:PO Box 465 Tech Address2: Tech Address3: Tech City:Carlton South Tech State/Province:VIC Tech Country/Economy:AU Tech Postal Code:3053 Tech Phone:+61.390157926
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July 31, 2012, 04:01:06 PM |
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this whole thing here is much more better than any movie ever, except Matrix I and Inception...
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July 31, 2012, 04:05:03 PM |
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.
Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created. You conveniently pass this over every time. Your shilling is beyond obvious - I just can't figure out why. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063838#msg1063838https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063850#msg1063850So, I have done a deal "for a friend" on AurumXchange using my own account.
And I have also done a deal "for a friend" on QQ using a friend's account?
Both happened before I had any clue of the investigation.
I did the deals, but all in much larger amounts with my own account.
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July 31, 2012, 04:07:29 PM |
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It looks like Zhou Tong has a pantent. Quite a feat for a 17 year old. US 8,213,196 B2
POWER SUPPLY CIRCUIT WITH PROTECTING CIRCUIT HAVING SWITCH ELEMENT FOR PROTECTING PULSE WIDTH MODULATION CIRCUIT He-Kang Zhou, Shenzhen (China); and Tong Zhou, Shenzhen (China) Assigned to Innocom Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd., Shenzhen (China); and Chimei Innolux Corporation, Miaoli County (Taiwan) Filed on Dec. 29, 2008, as Appl. No. 12/317,865. http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week27/OG/html/1380-1/US08213196-20120703.html
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July 31, 2012, 04:08:39 PM |
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It looks like Zhou Tong has a pantent. Quite a feat for a 17 year old. US 8,213,196 B2
POWER SUPPLY CIRCUIT WITH PROTECTING CIRCUIT HAVING SWITCH ELEMENT FOR PROTECTING PULSE WIDTH MODULATION CIRCUIT He-Kang Zhou, Shenzhen (China); and Tong Zhou, Shenzhen (China) Assigned to Innocom Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd., Shenzhen (China); and Chimei Innolux Corporation, Miaoli County (Taiwan) Filed on Dec. 29, 2008, as Appl. No. 12/317,865. http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week27/OG/html/1380-1/US08213196-20120703.html"Zhou Tong" is like "John Smith" around here, from what I gather, so that could be pretty much anyone.
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July 31, 2012, 04:18:19 PM |
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.
Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created. You conveniently pass this over every time. Your shilling is beyond obvious - I just can't figure out why. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063838#msg1063838https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063850#msg1063850So, I have done a deal "for a friend" on AurumXchange using my own account.
And I have also done a deal "for a friend" on QQ using a friend's account?
Both happened before I had any clue of the investigation.
I did the deals, but all in much larger amounts with my own account.
Excellent FUD you are spreading here. Here's a list: FearZhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created.
UncertaintyOccam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is neither that someone, for no reason, created a screenshot where your QQ-account would start selling LR that when the transactions were made turned out to come from the LR account you yourself stated that the hacker created.
DoubtThe transactions you've so far claimed are completely unrelated and "for a friend", match up the LR account to information released much later by aurumxchange.
You have been just as much a shill as I have been. You are shilling because it is your rational opinion. This is mine.
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July 31, 2012, 04:21:25 PM Last edit: July 31, 2012, 04:44:44 PM by Gyrsur |
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So what I think what ZT not want to happen is have to leave Australia for any reasons. But Australia don't want criminal individuals in it's country. What is the residence permit of him for Australia? And if he is guilty what's then?
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July 31, 2012, 04:22:03 PM |
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https://founderdaily.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/dustin-curtis-awkwardly-ending-all-conversations-in-you-should-follow-me-on-twitter-here/Curtis’ popular phrase has yet to catch on in conversation, likely due to the fact that spoken words cannot be hyperlinked.
“I’m trying it out for a while,” said Curtis. “Actually, I’m trying a few phrases and seeing what works best. Just like I did in the blog post.”
Curtis is committed to finding a way to gain Twitter followers from everyday conversations. He has tried several methods, including a t-shirt, which he considers a cliche.
“There’s just too many Twitter shirts these days,” said Curtis. “You’ve gotta stand out.”
“You should follow me on Twitter here,” he added.
You should follow Founder Daily on Twitter here. here = https://twitter.com/founderdaily
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July 31, 2012, 04:23:20 PM |
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It looks like Zhou Tong has a pantent. Quite a feat for a 17 year old. US 8,213,196 B2
POWER SUPPLY CIRCUIT WITH PROTECTING CIRCUIT HAVING SWITCH ELEMENT FOR PROTECTING PULSE WIDTH MODULATION CIRCUIT He-Kang Zhou, Shenzhen (China); and Tong Zhou, Shenzhen (China) Assigned to Innocom Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd., Shenzhen (China); and Chimei Innolux Corporation, Miaoli County (Taiwan) Filed on Dec. 29, 2008, as Appl. No. 12/317,865. http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week27/OG/html/1380-1/US08213196-20120703.html"Zhou Tong" is like "John Smith" around here, from what I gather, so that could be pretty much anyone. +1. Zhou Tong (周同) is a quite common name in Chinese history, not to mention the immense amount of similar sounding variations (like 周侗 etc)
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July 31, 2012, 04:26:04 PM |
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?
I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.
Later, all.
~Bruno~
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July 31, 2012, 04:29:44 PM |
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This is a classic example of victim blaming.
Zhou has still not been able to explain selling LR using his own QQ account from the LR account Zhou said "the hacker" created. You conveniently pass this over every time. Your shilling is beyond obvious - I just can't figure out why. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063838#msg1063838https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1063850#msg1063850So, I have done a deal "for a friend" on AurumXchange using my own account.
And I have also done a deal "for a friend" on QQ using a friend's account?
Both happened before I had any clue of the investigation.
I did the deals, but all in much larger amounts with my own account.
At this point I feel the shilling from rarity, dree12, and Mathew N. Queer comes from getting paid. Either that, or the first two are just sock puppets of this criminal organization spearheaded by Zhou. You are right, no answer has been given as to why Zhou sold LR from an account that was supposedly opened by a hacker. There won't be either, because he can't make any shit up. He already stuck his foot in its entirety up his mouth on that one. You know what is really interesting too? Zhou confessed that the email address used on the hacks was his "semi sock puppet secret email" that he used to test vulnerabilities on exchangers. He even went to say that he returned the funds he "stole" from an exchanger after finding a vulnerability. So far so good... now, CHECK THIS OUT: Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!" Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from himself? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12.
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July 31, 2012, 04:32:22 PM |
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WTF! I just realized that I have 9-13 ignores. Is this telling me that all the earnest work that I am putting in to prove what this whole Bitcoinica thing is about is in vane?
I'm going to take a break from this for a few hours. I'm pretty sure that when I come back, I will be naming names. I've left clues out the ass hoping that others would pick up the mantle, but I guess that didn't work out so swell.
Later, all.
~Bruno~
I was reading all you posted here and in the other thread. And honestly, that stuff is too random to me.. Its like getting an uncommented sourcecode from someone - I would eventually scrap it and start all over again.. ;-) Don't worry about the ignores. I have had a strong itch to start ignoring people here of lately. Seems like quite a few people are somewhat tense.. heh Ente
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July 31, 2012, 04:37:30 PM |
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Yesterday, sock puppet dree12 starts a very detailed and carefully crafted list of Bitcoin hacks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0MINUTES after he starts this thread, BTC-E get's hack (). Dree12 happily announces that if the projected numbers are right, the bitcoinica hack is number three on the list now, instead of number two. He posts a sensationalistic header in red big letters stating that the BTC-E hack is going on "Right now!" Coincidence? Maybe... Zhou Tong hacking BTC-E to deflect attention from him? MOST LIKELY, specially considering his previous statements about his pastime of "Finding vulnerabilities", and the obvious sock puppetry from dree12. I just want to clear this up. 1. The thread was posted in May of this year. I did not start it "yesterday". 2. I am not a sock-puppet of Zhou Tong. In fact, I registered earlier than him. 3. The thread is meant to be as neutral as possible. I have listed Zhou as a suspect for the hack with as much recognition as he deserves. 4. The red header is meant as a warning. It is much less sensationalist now. 5. The value hacked from BTC-E is now listed at 4500 BTC, the official estimate. As I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times now, I will now withdraw from this thread, along with my radical views. I can assure you, this is my only account on these forums.
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